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Old October 25th, 2008, 10:52 PM   #1601
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As far as I know they've decided to upgrade the existing motorways. (A1, A9, A10)
Well, I thought that Eurlings recently announced to have another look at the project
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Old October 27th, 2008, 08:57 PM   #1602
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They've already started widening some A10 bridges.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 09:05 PM   #1603
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A moment ago, I heard on the radio that they don't want a tunnel under the Naardermeer. Eurlings said he wants the existing motorways widened asap. The result of another "investigation", the 7364th or sth
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Old October 27th, 2008, 09:14 PM   #1604
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Why the A4 is said to be in this place? Taking a glimpse at GoogleEarth, there is A13 jest next to it. Why just not widen it? I know it's diffiucult, but for sure less than dealing with this A4
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Old October 27th, 2008, 09:25 PM   #1605
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If an accident happens on the A13, what do you want to do? There is no other option. This is the only motorway. Furthermore, the A4 now consists of four different parts (one is called A29), and it would be great to connect them all. It would give motorway connection between Amsterdam and Belgium without having to switch roads.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 09:36 PM   #1606
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OK, I don't question that, but as even the tunnel is not an option(why??) so it's for 100% sure A4 will be never build where it was supposed to be.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 09:36 PM   #1607
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A13 empties on the undercapacity A20 which is hard to widen without excessive costs.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 09:38 PM   #1608
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OK, I don't question that, but as even the tunnel is not an option(why??) so it's for 100% sure A4 will be never build where it was supposed to be.
The tunnel I mentioned is another project we discussed above: A6/A9. The A4 will probably come in future.
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Old October 27th, 2008, 09:42 PM   #1609
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Upps, sure, there's no meer over there

But still there have been some huge problems with the A4
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Old October 27th, 2008, 09:45 PM   #1610
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For the last 50 years.....
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I made some pics of the A2 and A27. Only a few of low quality, because the sun was very irritating (even through the clouds), and you know how good my photographic skills are

Starting off with the Jan Blankenbrug (crossing the Lek, end of the Rhine)
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Sign on the A2
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A27 heading towards Breda
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Merwedebrug, no shoulders, and a very narrow left lane. This is quite a big bottleneck and it causes lots of jams during rush hours.
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Again the Merwedebrug. Notice the upside down lamp post on the left
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The Keizersveerbrug, crossing the Bergsche Maas. Quite an ugly bridge IMO.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 07:29 PM   #1612
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Merwedebrug, no shoulders, and a very narrow left lane. This is quite a big bottleneck and it causes lots of jams during rush hours.
What's the speed limit over there?
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Old October 28th, 2008, 07:30 PM   #1613
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Why the A4 is said to be in this place? Taking a glimpse at GoogleEarth, there is A13 jest next to it.
At Rotterdam Overschie the motorway is practicly impossible to widen...
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Another 400 kilometer traffic jam today...
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This morning was especially bad around Amsterdam, the safety traffic lights at the Coentunnel and Zeeburgertunnel in the A10 ringroad malfunctioned, creating gridlock in the entire surround area, including a 25 kilometer traffic jam at the A7/A8 alone. All inbound freeways were jammed, a typical 30km drive took over 2 hours there.

This afternoon, Rotterdam is gridlocked, because of an accident on the A20 motorway, which caused a 25 kilometer traffic jam behind it, and also blocking other freeways nearby (A16, A13, A12, A4, A15). I myself experienced some delays too in my city.
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1.024 kilometer traffic jam including provincial roads according to TomTom High Definition Traffic
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What's the speed limit over there?
120 km/h, but people often slow down, causing jams during the rush hours. Furthermore, this is just after the A15/A27 junction, so there is a lot more traffic entering the highway just before this bridge.
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Merwede Bridge is a pain in the ass. Rushhour last very long here, with the first traffic jams popping up around 14.30 pm and the last disappearing often long after 19.00 hrs. Rushhours seems to start earlier every year. Sometimes it's already stopped traffic around 6 am at various places.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 08:27 PM   #1619
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The whole A27 between the junction with the A2 and the junction with the A59 has seen an immense increase in traffic jams over the last few years. Especially near Lexmond the road is often congested.
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Old October 28th, 2008, 08:34 PM   #1620
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That's gonna happen on a lot more motorways. The A27 was just an example of a motorway which was very near the maximum capacity. There are plenty more of them.

Potentials:

A1 Amersfoort - Hengelo
A2 Eindhoven - Geleen
A7 Zaandam - Hoorn
A12 Utrecht - German border
A15 Rotterdam - Nijmegen
A27 Breda - Gorinchem
A28 Amersfoort - Zwolle
A50 Arnhem - Zwolle
A59 Oss - Den Bosch
A67 Eindhoven - Venlo

The time traffic jams were only limited to urban areas is long gone in the Netherlands. All intercity connections face tremendous congestion.
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