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Old December 2nd, 2008, 10:38 AM   #1901
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What's that car you were overtaking all the time?
On my video? It was a Mercury Grand Marquis. Quite uncommon in the Netherlands.
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 12:02 PM   #1902
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A2 Everdingen - Deil will be widened to 2x4 lanes!

PDF with extensive drawings

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map of the future 2x4 section:
[IMG]http://i38.************/5zioar.png[/IMG]
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 02:47 PM   #1903
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Strumatic

When will they start building? Maybe it's in the pdf file, but my computer can't open it or sth. First time I've actually got problems with pdf files
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 04:39 PM   #1904
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First time I've actually got problems with pdf files
First time I've actually got NO problems with long pdf files.
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 10:18 PM   #1905
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A2 Everdingen - Deil will be widened to 2x4 lanes!

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Many thanks--this is good stuff!
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Old December 2nd, 2008, 11:27 PM   #1906
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A2 Everdingen - Deil will be widened to 2x4 lanes!

PDF with extensive drawings

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map of the future 2x4 section:
[IMG]http://i38.************/5zioar.png[/IMG]
Are there such maps for other projects available on the net?
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 04:50 AM   #1907
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Something like these?

A2 Zaltbommel-Empel:
http://www.rijkswaterstaat.nl/images...174-211942.pdf

A2 Ring 's Hertogenbosch:
http://www.infra2.nl/downloads/websi...rten_deel1.zip
http://www.infra2.nl/downloads/websi...rten_deel2.zip

A74 Venlo-Germany:
http://www.inspraakpunt.nl/Images/LB...224-179322.pdf

A5 westrandweg Amsterdam
http://www.inspraakpunt.nl/projecten...ndweg2007.aspx
(scroll down for the maps/kaarten)

A9-A6 Schiphol-Almere
http://www.inspraakpunt.nl/projecten...lmere2008.aspx
(scroll down for the maps/kaarten)
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 12:08 PM   #1908
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New bridge across N7 in Sneek (Friesland)

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Old December 3rd, 2008, 12:24 PM   #1909
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wow. does it symbolise something?
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 01:01 PM   #1910
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The 2nd Coen Tunnel has finally been approved! All objections are now put aside, which means construction can begin on one of the biggest chokepoint of the Amsterdam region.

The 2nd Coen Tunnel is added onto the A10 motorway, the beltway of Amsterdam, which currently has only 2x2 lanes without shoulders and a traffic volume of 110.000 vehicles a day.
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 02:29 PM   #1911
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New bridge across N7 in Sneek (Friesland)

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Very original foot bridge, it's made of laminated timber probably (as far as I can see from the photo).
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 03:11 PM   #1912
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The 2nd Coen Tunnel is added onto the A10 motorway, the beltway of Amsterdam, which currently has only 2x2 lanes without shoulders and a traffic volume of 110.000 vehicles a day.
thats about the nominal capacity of a 2x3+1 motorway...

when will you start building of the 3rd Coen tunnel?
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 03:41 PM   #1913
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btw: why have you built tunnel?

It seems there are enough space for the acces ramps for a high bridge...
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Old December 3rd, 2008, 04:38 PM   #1914
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AFAIK because some very high ships have to pass, and shortly after the bridge ends there are exits. Furthermore, NIMBY's will complain about a ruined view
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Old December 4th, 2008, 12:42 AM   #1915
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.....and what would be the solution for those traffic-jams in the NL?
4000kms of motorways or (10 lanes) or something else? It is only a question so please don´t mention €!
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Old December 4th, 2008, 09:06 AM   #1916
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only 3 thing: widening, widening and widening! (from 2x2 to 2x3 and 2x4)
(and some new streches)
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Old December 4th, 2008, 09:47 AM   #1917
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.....and what would be the solution for those traffic-jams in the NL?
4000kms of motorways or (10 lanes) or something else? It is only a question so please don´t mention €!
No. First of all, our motorway network is pretty much complete, the list of very urgent new sections is quite short, only a few dozens of kilometers. The major problem in the Netherlands is;

1) No alternatives to motorways. It's nearly impossible to drive from Utrecht or Almere to Amsterdam without hitting the motorway or very local roads.

2) Lack of capacity on the motorways. Many sections are still 2x2 lanes, also between major cities. Some motorways require long distance 2x3 upgrades due to the tremendous amount of truck traffic, especially the hinterland connections to Germany and Belgium. The A16 is an example of a 2x3 hinterland connection.

3) Lack of jobcenters outside the larger cities, everybody commutes to the nearest city of sometimes further. Hence, large commuter flows from every village and town, since we're not an agricultural country anymore.
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a modern and rich country cant be an "agricultural country" b/c agriculture is heavily machinized, makes only 5% of jobs.

only a poor, undeveloped country can be an agricultural country, b/c of lack of machinization...
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Old December 4th, 2008, 03:16 PM   #1919
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Are there any plans for any significant widening of the Dutch motorways (maybe even current construction?), or is nothing beyond paper right now?
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Old December 4th, 2008, 04:04 PM   #1920
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The A2 is the only motorway that's under significant widening now or in the near future;

Amsterdam - Utrecht 2x3 -> 2x5
Everdingen - Deil 2x2 -> 2x4
Den Bosch 2x3 -> 4x2
Eindhoven 2x3 -> 2+3+3+2

Other plans include the A1

Amsterdam - Almere -> 2x3+1 -> 2x5+2

However, most widenings in the last 15 years were mostly peak hour lanes; shoulders as driving lanes.
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