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Old December 8th, 2008, 11:30 PM   #1961
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In that case: yes

@x-type: I'd say 'op', which is more reasonable, or 'in', but just because that's the opposite of 'uit'. Anyway, those signs aren't there, so I don't bother.
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Old December 8th, 2008, 11:40 PM   #1962
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In that case: yes
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Old December 9th, 2008, 12:26 AM   #1963
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No, afrit is an exit. Interchange = knooppunt.
In Swedish the direct translation of knooppunt ought to be knutpunkt, but that's never used for when two or more motorways meet. We call everything, no matter what roads meet, a "trafikplats" or "traffic place". The lane that leaves the motorway is called an avfart, just like the German Ausfahrt, and the lane that enters a påfart.

Dutch is a very funny language (according to many Swedes), especially the pronounciation of the letter H. Like for instance Schiphol, we thinks it's supposed to be pronounced Ship hole, but every time I've flown KLM to Amsterdam they say like Skipkhole (kh = Spanish j).
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Old December 9th, 2008, 02:15 AM   #1964
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No. It's actually pronounced something close to "Skhiphol". With 'kh' being something pretty close to the the Spanish 'j', the letter 'i' is pronounced as in the English word 'hit'. 'Hol' as in Andy Warhol.
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Old December 9th, 2008, 09:50 AM   #1965
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I know that! I meant the whole interchange (exits and entrances).
The exits and entrances (afrit+toerit) are called an "aansluiting" plural "aansluitingen".
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Old December 9th, 2008, 10:26 AM   #1966
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Old December 9th, 2008, 11:26 AM   #1967
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No. It's actually pronounced something close to "Skhiphol". With 'kh' being something pretty close to the the Spanish 'j', the letter 'i' is pronounced as in the English word 'hit'. 'Hol' as in Andy Warhol.

A lot of people who hear our letter "G" (or "CH") for the first time, think that we are choking

The Spanish "J" comes pretty close, like the Slovenian/Croatien/Bosnia/Serbian/etc. letter "H". The combination "SCH" is not pronnounced like the Germans do (like SH in Ship).

For people who want to learn Dutch: Try Scheveningen
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And for the pronounciation: try Groningen
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's-Gravenhage

(the official name of Den Haag/The Hague)
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The morning rushhour lasted the entire morning:
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The exits and entrances (afrit+toerit) are called an "aansluiting" plural "aansluitingen".
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I will never take a phonetics course in Dutch, that's for sure...
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The morning rushhour lasted the entire morning:
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What does the y axes figures stand for?
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^ Kilometers. You'd never guess there are 400 km of traffic jams at once in the Netherlands, eh? There can be up to 1,000 km and more...
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These figures are actually only from some major motorway sections. TomTom counts other roads too, and 600 - 1.000 kilometers of traffic jam is daily business here.
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An accident occured at the A1 motorway near Deventer around 17.00 hours, 5 trucks and a few cars collided, causing a total blockage of the motorway. As of now 23.00 hours, the motorway is still closed, and they showed some footage on the regional news broadcaster of people that were waiting stationary for 6 hours already.
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It happened as follows; A Polish truck had to brake, and another Polish truck crashed onto the first truck. A Dutch truck then collided with the second truck, and a Lithuanian truck collided with the third truck. Another Dutch truck collided with the 4th truck, and 2 cars crashed into that 5th truck.

The entire region was gridlocked, 12 kilometers took someone 6 hours to complete. The Deventer/Zutphen/Apeldoorn region was virtually inaccessible.




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Old December 10th, 2008, 12:43 AM   #1979
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Only 1 lightly injured luckily (the Lithuanian driver)
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