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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old June 28th, 2007, 06:24 AM   #2001
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Largest crowd ever FA Cup White Horse Final, 250,000
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Old June 29th, 2007, 07:22 AM   #2002
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Judging by crowd size/energy/noise, I'd give South America the edge in "passion" over Europe, but I'm just an impartial American that's jealous of both.

Are "continent vs. continent" threads banned?
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Old June 29th, 2007, 09:48 AM   #2003
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Passion won't do anything for FIFA, quite the opposite, the calmer and more controlled the crowd are the better for them.

Climbing fences, smoke bombs, fireworks, jumping up and down = not good.
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Old June 29th, 2007, 02:45 PM   #2004
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But all of the above = quite a boring World Cup, however good the football is.
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Old June 30th, 2007, 08:21 AM   #2005
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Passion won't do anything for FIFA, quite the opposite, the calmer and more controlled the crowd are the better for them.

Climbing fences, smoke bombs, fireworks, jumping up and down = not good.
wasn't there a riot just a couple of days ago that resulted in one person dead?
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Old June 30th, 2007, 10:52 AM   #2006
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I didn´t know that... So thanks for the info!
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Old June 30th, 2007, 11:12 AM   #2007
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Don't forget all stadia have to able to accomodate a pitch that is 68m wide and then there must be an at least an additional 6m space to the stand to the side and then 7.5 behind the goal.

Can all NFL venue's comply with these regulations? As American Football pitches are 48.8m wide, so you are looking at least 12.6 metres of space each side of the sideline on both sides. Of particular interest to me is the distance to the stand by the corner flag. I remember a game in the Giants Stadium where England played a couple of years ago and when taking a corner the player virtually had his back against the stadium wall, that simply wouldn't be allowed in a World Cup.
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Old June 30th, 2007, 09:10 PM   #2008
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Certainly not all 32 stadiums could, but not even the Premeirship has all of their stadiums up to that field requirement. An NFL field is 48.8m wide, but there is always a wide gap along both sidelines (I would guess a good 12m wide for most NFL facilities, usually narrower in older collegiate facilities) for each teams benches and officials, many would meet the FIFA standard. A few of the older and more elliptical bowls narrow to much at the corners, but most would be fine. Places such as U of Phoenix stadium, new Soldier Field, Qwest Field and Reliant stadium were built with international football in mind.
Some of the stadium, although very few would have 7.5m behind each end, most allow 4-5m. If FIFA really wants that much space (I don't see a real need for it, camera men, officials, and subs warming up wont use up that much) I would guess a row or two could be removed. Also Giants stadium in all likelyhood will be gone by 2018, replaced by a new $1,000,000,000+ stadium in the same area, that would take a football pitch much better. At any rate most NFL stadiums can handle an regulation 105-68m pitch fine, even if they don't have canyon like gap similar to Wembley around the pitch. Out of Curiosity did every German stadium meet the space requirement? It seem like some of them fit the pitch tighter than 6 and 7.5m (Signal Iduna, Allianz, Fritz-Walter).
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Old June 30th, 2007, 10:36 PM   #2009
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Kind of an early thread, don't you think. Anyway, I think it should be somewhere in eastern Europe, like Greece-Bulgaria joint bid
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Old June 30th, 2007, 11:12 PM   #2010
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Kind of an early thread, don't you think. Anyway, I think it should be somewhere in eastern Europe, like Greece-Bulgaria joint bid
Or, Ukraine - Belarus.
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Old June 30th, 2007, 11:24 PM   #2011
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Surley England have to get it by that time it would have been more than 50 years since we held the world cup. And i rekon a British bid could be interesting with the likes of Hampden, Ibrox, Parkhead and the Millenium Stadium hosting games.
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Old July 1st, 2007, 12:05 AM   #2012
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Surley England have to get it by that time it would have been more than 50 years since we held the world cup. And i rekon a British bid could be interesting with the likes of Hampden, Ibrox, Parkhead and the Millenium Stadium hosting games.
Why do people keep harping on about this, a british bid will never happen! England 2018 will do.
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Old July 1st, 2007, 06:40 AM   #2013
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This are some of the best stadiums in Argentina te problem is that most of them are located in Buenos Aires:
Small Stadiums, second division:




Tigre Atletic Club, Tigre, Buenos Aires Province.

Monumental de Victoria Stadium.







Almagro, Buenos Aires Province. 3 de Febrero Stadium.








Quilmes Atletic Club
, Quilmes, Buenos Aires province. José Luis Meiszner Stadium






Second Division but not small stadium:



Huracán Atletic Club, Buenos Aires city. Tomás Adolfo Ducó Stadium, capacity 48.314 spectators.








Municipality:


Chateau Carreras Stadium, capacity for 46,083 spectators, Córdoba City, Córdoba Province.



Race:








Único de La Plata Stadium, capacity for 40,000 spectators, La Plata, Buenos Aires Province.












Mar del Plata Olimpic Stadium, Mar del Plata, Buenos Aires Province:



Salta Stadium, Salta Province. Capacity for 20.480 spectators.








Malvinas Argentinas Stadium (Argentine Falklands), capacity 40,000. Mendoza Province.







First Division:



Boca Juniors, La Bombonera Stadium, capacity 57.935 spectators. Buenos Aires City.







"AL PALO"





Argentinos Juniors, Diego Armando Maradona Stadium, capacity 24.800 spectators, Buenos Aires City.







Vélez Sársfield, José Amalfitani Stadium, capacity 49,540 spectators. Buenos Aires City.








River Plate, Monumental Stadium, capacity 65,645 spectators. Buenos Aires City.










Racing Club, Juan Domingo Perón Stadium, capacity 50,000 spectators. Avellaneda, Buenos Aires Province.








Independiente Atletic Club, Avellaneda, Buenos Aires Province. Stadium Destroyed.

Renders future Stadium "Libertadores de América",52000 all-seated, under construction (Thread):










San Lorenzo Atletic Club
, Estadio Pedro Bidegain, capacity 43, 494 spectators. Buenos Aires City.







Rosario Central Atletic Club, Gigante de Arroyito Stadium, capacity 41,654 spectators. Rosario, Santa Fe Province.









Newell's Old Boys, The Colossus of the Park Stadium, capacity 42,000 spectators. Rosario, Santa Fe Province.









Estudiantes de La Plata (current Champion), La Plata, Buenos Aires Province. Stadium Destroy.

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Old July 1st, 2007, 09:27 AM   #2014
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But all of the above = quite a boring World Cup, however good the football is.
True. But in todays day and age, its quite often passion gets run over by money. Especially in Fifas eyes anyways.
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Old July 1st, 2007, 09:41 AM   #2015
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Why do people keep harping on about this, a british bid will never happen! England 2018 will do.
Yeah. Some folks just don't seem to want to accept it though. A bit like the Aussie 2018 thing - a lot of us accept that the odds are too heavilly stacked (for now), but there's still plenty who'll keep rolling out AFL/cricket venues and saying "surely FIFA would bend the rules", etc., in order to get around the lack of major cities in Oz.

England 2018, unless FIFA opts for the rotation, in which case China or the USA (depending which continent is next on the list).
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Old July 1st, 2007, 02:15 PM   #2016
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Caborn eyes 'formidable' 2018 bid
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Old July 1st, 2007, 02:33 PM   #2017
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Gordon Brown is already backing a possible bid. Brilliant
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Old July 1st, 2007, 03:54 PM   #2018
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What about Australias crap increase in the world rankings. When we defeated Uraguay to get into the world cup, I was sure that we would a move up more spaces then they did, but they had a greater increase than us. I do believe you need to be in the top 32 nations to host the world cup due to automatic entry for host policy.
I don't think you have to be in the top 32 nations to host.

South Africa is currently 57th. They were in the top 32 in August 2003 though, so maybe they were at the time the bid was awarded.
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Old July 1st, 2007, 04:08 PM   #2019
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Kind of an early thread, don't you think. Anyway, I think it should be somewhere in eastern Europe, like Greece-Bulgaria joint bid
I started an identical thread in November 2006! My aim was to collect all the news/pictures in one uber-thread before 2018.

As for Eastern Europe... I'm sorry but if FIFA want the tournament in Europe they will go for England or Spain.
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Gordon Brown is already backing a possible bid. Brilliant
Heres hoping FIFA dont mess this up
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