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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old October 19th, 2007, 04:01 AM   #2341
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Well according to world stadiums the only stadium they have over 40k is the one used last night against england that holds about 84k, so theres a lot of work needed to be done
These stadiums will be opened in 2009:

Spartak Moscow 42000
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CSKA Moscow 30000



Zenit St Petes 62000


In 2008
Khimki


In 2012
Sochi Olympic stadium 40000


Plus a dozen more will be built or renovated. More here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=486660
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Old October 19th, 2007, 04:17 AM   #2342
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I think it should go to Australia or Canada. Hopefully Colombia will make a bid for it or for the 2022 cup since so many stadiums have been modernized and expanded this year.
Would they give it to Canada after they hosted to U20 world cup this year?
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Old October 19th, 2007, 06:21 AM   #2343
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Russia sounds like a good idea...and if they fight for it,they could have a strong bid..
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Old October 19th, 2007, 07:41 AM   #2344
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Russia sounds like a good idea...and if they fight for it,they could have a strong bid..
A lot of stadium building needs to happen, plus the cities are far apart and the infrastructure is not great. I think they're more likely to get it the next time it comes to Europe after 2018.
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Old October 19th, 2007, 12:16 PM   #2345
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PANORAMA TV SHOW ON ENGLANDS 2018 WORLD CUP BID

For those of you who can get BBC 1, there is a Panorama show on monday 22nd October at 8.30pm GMT discussing there 2018 world cup bid. It might be very interesting, and will probably feature lots of aerial shots of the various stadiums if nothing else. Here is a link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/listings..._4223_18468_30
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Old October 19th, 2007, 06:36 PM   #2346
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"Andrew Jennings investigates new allegations against FIFA officials and asks if FIFA ethics chief Seb Coe can expect 'fair play' from the rulers of the beautiful game"

Seems more like a political scandal type programme.
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Old October 20th, 2007, 07:06 AM   #2347
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Go Australia!
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Old October 21st, 2007, 02:49 AM   #2348
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Go Australia!
I'd love for us to get it, i can't see it happening by 2018 though. I really don't think we'd be ready. Maybe 2022 is a better shot. Fingers crossed.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 02:58 AM   #2349
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Why on earth would Australia even have a chance at the World Cup? They simply couldn't sustain the number of stadiums required, their population is too small.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 03:44 AM   #2350
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We would be doing the English a favour by staging the event so even they would stand a chance of getting in for a reasonable price.
like in 2003 rugby world cup final when england fans paid upto 2 grand a ticket? even at 2000 olympics the brits had to pay hundreds just to see the rowing!

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If you stage it down in Oz, you'll get to see a bunch of matches at the stadium because we have a less people, less density
basically saying you wont fill any of the stadiums and will rely on teams like england qualifying because we have the traveling support

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bottom line is you want it purely to qualify for a world cup lol, nothing you have said gives me the impression you care what people want
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 03:48 AM   #2351
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Wow, talk about reviving an old thread.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 03:48 AM   #2352
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Why on earth would Australia even have a chance at the World Cup? They simply couldn't sustain the number of stadiums required, their population is too small.
No one asked for your opinion.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 05:49 AM   #2353
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Why on earth would Australia even have a chance at the World Cup? They simply couldn't sustain the number of stadiums required, their population is too small.
In which case we can rule out bids from Holland/Belgium (comb pop approx the same as Australia) and Portugal.

The reality is that Australia can (and do, sort of) support the (size) number of stadiums required - just not under the conditions required to fulfill FIFA standards (split over 7 cities and empty for two months other than the World Cup games being the real killers).
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 06:05 AM   #2354
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i think that's due to the way this site 'links' you similarly themed threads at the bottom of the page... It's easy to hop into an old thread without noticing the dates, and by the time you realise that it's out of date you have already formulated your response... And we all know how hard it is NOT to give an opinion on a forum like this.

At the end of the day, the argument used by BobDaBuilder that staging in Oz would lead to lower ticket prices due to lower demand for tickets is pretty week as (a) FIFA want the games all sold out well in advance, and (b) once you add the price of flights on top of the ticket prices, it isn't going to be cheaper.

For the record, I went to 6 games in Germany 06 and didn't pay above the face value of the ticket for any of them.

That said, I'd love a world cup down here - it's a lot easier for me than flying to Germany, South Africa, Brazil and then England...
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 11:34 AM   #2355
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I've already said that the Netherlands/Belguim is simply too small (as well as being a hated joint bid) for the World Cup. Portugal certainly is. It's simply arrogance to think that a country where soccer must be the sixth or seventh sport in unfavourable timezones with subpar facilities, isolated from the footballing world should host just to host it, which is the attitude of many of the Australians.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 01:23 PM   #2356
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Wow, nice signature fool. Where's the mods around this place?
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 04:47 PM   #2357
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Wow, nice signature fool. Where's the mods around this place?
Why, is there something wrong with it?
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 06:22 PM   #2358
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Australia - The Netherlands/Belgium

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In which case we can rule out bids from Holland/Belgium (comb pop approx the same as Australia) and Portugal.

The reality is that Australia can (and do, sort of) support the (size) number of stadiums required - just not under the conditions required to fulfill FIFA standards (split over 7 cities and empty for two months other than the World Cup games being the real killers).
There are two big differences between Australia and The Netherlands/Belgium, as hosts of the World Cup. Australia is a rural area with 25 millions spread over a huge area, while The Netherlands/Belgium has 25 millions on an are of the size of Melbourne with an infrastructure that Australia can not dream about. The Netherlands and Belgium are football countries and can use 12 40+ stadiums after a world cup. Australia doesn’t need a single 40+ stadium for football and your cricket stadiums are not good enough for football. Football will most likely never become an important sport in Australia.

I do not support a Dutch bid. Too much money for a small country.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 07:01 PM   #2359
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Australia is actually one of the most urbanised countries in the world. The vast majority of its population is concentrated within cities. That's why Australia would struggle with getting enough cities for a WC bid - Adelaide, as the fifth largest city, is twice as large as the Gold Coast, which is the next largest city and has practically merged with Brisbane.

In the state of Victoria, the next three largest cities after Melbourne are all roughly an hour away by train from Melbourne. It's a similar story for Sydney (Woolongong, Newcastle) and Brisbane (Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast). Infrastructure between these cities isn't actually that bad a problem because they are all commuter cities and they all have established road and rail connections. It's just getting between major cities that's hard. But keep in mind the Melbourne to Sydney air route operates on a 15 minute frequency.

The rugby states also have existing rectangular stadiums (whether you count Telstra Stadium is up to you) and I'm sure you'll have a lot of luck convincing them that they don't actually need all the stadiums they've had for years. Melbourne's building a 31,500 (with foundations for 50,000) rectangular stadium and its main tenant is a club which has only been around for two seasons, which has already managed to pull several 40k+ crowds. Telstra Dome has an arguably better rectangular configuration than Sydney's Telstra Stadium but Melbourne Victory chooses to play with the oval configuration to maximise capacity.

Besides, the basketball competition has faded into obscurity and we need another club sport to fill the gap over summer.
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Old October 22nd, 2007, 07:14 PM   #2360
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There are two big differences between Australia and The Netherlands/Belgium, as hosts of the World Cup. Australia is a rural area with 25 millions spread over a huge area,
Actually Australia's population is'nt that spread out

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while The Netherlands/Belgium has 25 millions on an are of the size of Melbourne with an infrastructure that Australia can not dream about.
About ½ the size of the state of Victoria.
As for infrastructure large Australian cities have more high volume transit than Dutch or Belgian cities. Mind you Dutch and Belgian cities are generally smaller and far more compact.

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The Netherlands and Belgium are football countries and can use 12 40+ stadiums after a world cup.
Australia doesn’t need a single 40+ stadium for football and your cricket stadiums are not good enough for football. Football will most likely never become an important sport in Australia.
Eh? Not a single 40k+ stadium for football? Cricket stadiums? Get your head out of your arse.

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