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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 07:06 PM   #2381
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A combination of new and upgraded existing stadia IMO is the best solution. South Africa uses 5 existing and 5 new venues. I think Australia should use 8 venues in 8 cities to host.

And just what would it be hosting. Because it certainly wouldn't be the World Cup of Association Football.
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 07:08 PM   #2382
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You simply don't have the number of cities to sustain 40,000 seater stadiums, which as I remind you is the bare minimum amount.

Besides Belguim and the Netherlands isn't a lot smaller than England (England alone). Your stadiums are nice but they are small.
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 07:35 PM   #2383
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A combination of new and upgraded existing stadia IMO is the best solution. South Africa uses 5 existing and 5 new venues. I think Australia should use 8 venues in 8 cities to host.

And just what would it be hosting. Because it certainly wouldn't be the World Cup of Association Football.
hypothetically speaking
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 08:20 PM   #2384
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yes we have, I already have posted the stadiums so i don't understand what the problem is.

BNL: 71000 sq km
England: 150000 sq km

England is the double of BNL ...
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 10:15 PM   #2385
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Do any of those stadiums actually exist with their stated capacities.

And so many of them would be bare minimum as would having only 10.

What a sad World Cup that would be.
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 10:16 PM   #2386
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You mean if FIFA decided to change the rules to accomodate a country which does not represent a big market, has no soccer tradition, is poorly equipped, geographically isolated, is not a potential expansion market, is in poor timezone location and would struggle to make a profit?
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 10:22 PM   #2387
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You mean if FIFA decided to change the rules to accomodate a country which does not represent a big market, has no soccer tradition, is poorly equipped, geographically isolated, is not a potential expansion market, is in poor timezone location and would struggle to make a profit?
some of that actually makes some sense

but i generally think Aus should go for 2022.
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 11:18 PM   #2388
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You mean if FIFA decided to change the rules to accomodate a country which does not represent a big market, has no soccer tradition, is poorly equipped, geographically isolated, is not a potential expansion market, is in poor timezone location and would struggle to make a profit?
if any city or country hosts mega-events to make profits then they are delusional. as long as the FIFA/IOC revenues are met then all is ok.
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 11:27 PM   #2389
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Potential candidates:

- Australia
- Belguim-Netherlands
- Canada
- England
- Mexico
- United States

Source: Wikipedia
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 11:45 PM   #2390
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It won't be an issue, because if we're bidding, by that time we could have enough rectangle stadia in the country

Which ten cities?
Here's 9 cities

Taken from an earlier post in this thread,

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Sydney-83,000 + 45,000
Melbourne-100,000
Brisbane-55,000
Perth-70,000
Adelaide?-50,000 New Stadium
Canberra-40,000
Newcastle40,000
Gold Coast-40,000
Townsville-40,000

6 Rectangular grounds
3 Rectangular(retractable) grounds
1 Oval ground
Let's see. Include a possibe new staduim at Wollongong and you're in business
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Old October 23rd, 2007, 11:54 PM   #2391
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While its certainly not impossible the Australians might be able to get in a decent bid some of these lists of stadiums are desending into fantasy.
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Old October 24th, 2007, 05:50 AM   #2392
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Let's tidy that up...

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Here's 9 cities

Taken from an earlier post in this thread,

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Sydney-83,000 + 45,000
Melbourne-100,000 won't be used as AFL season will be on and they won't switch all games to the Dome, so Melbourne would have to be the extended version of the new rectangular stadium
Brisbane-55,000
Perth-70,000 New stadium
Adelaide?-50,000 New Stadium
Canberra-40,000 New stadium
Newcastle40,000 New stadium
Townsville-40,000 New stadium

7 Rectangular grounds
3 Rectangular(retractable) grounds
Let's see. Include a possibe new staduim at Wollongong and you're in business
Thats a lot of money to spend on a relatively small sport in this country. I'd love it. I hope the game keeps growing... But if we're up against England, Spain, China, the USA, etc., we haven't a chance.
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Old October 24th, 2007, 05:55 AM   #2393
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You mean if FIFA decided to change the rules to accomodate a country which does not represent a big market, has no soccer tradition, is poorly equipped, geographically isolated, is not a potential expansion market, is in poor timezone location and would struggle to make a profit?
Yeah, but other than those, can you come up with a single reason why not to bring it to Australia?

I still think the biggest issue is who would finance the new stadiums, most of which would be 50-75% empty most of the time once the finals were gone.
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Old October 24th, 2007, 06:29 AM   #2394
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Canberra, Newcastle & Townsville would be expansion/upgrade of current stadia. Perth's new stadium is already in the pipeline.
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Old October 24th, 2007, 07:16 AM   #2395
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Don't be idiotic. The Olympics in Sydney were great, but the World Cup is rather different, in terms of scale there are far fewer countries that can host on their own than there are cities that can host an Olympics. To compare the two is ignorant, and just shows Australian contempt for the World Sport.
I think you missed the point.

What im saying is that everyone is against us in holding a grand event and saying we cant do this and that. What im saying is.... give it to us and we'll probaly do a better job then what you can.
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Old October 24th, 2007, 07:20 AM   #2396
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Let's tidy that up...



Thats a lot of money to spend on a relatively small sport in this country. I'd love it. I hope the game keeps growing... But if we're up against England, Spain, China, the USA, etc., we haven't a chance.
No doubt. But seriously if South Africa can get a WC then im sure Australia can (nothing against SA).

England has 2018 in the bag pretty much. Which pretty much rules out Spain, NL/B, Russia. The sport was relatively small in the US and they held a decent event. Even though Soccer have down on the downhill since then. And China we'll find out after 2008.

So its out of China and Australia for the 2022 games and who knows what shit we can do by then. We might even have 4 world-class cities by then with the shin-dig thats going on in Bris-vegas and Perth.
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Old October 24th, 2007, 07:26 AM   #2397
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I think we''ll see alot of temporary seating at new stadiums.

Like i think Energy Australia will fall over by 2022. Townsville will either get a new Dairy Farmers or upgrade on it if the Cowboys keep going at its pace. Surely we can count the GC as a diff city and the Titans should go from strength to strength there. And lets hope the Brumbies can keep expanding.

So... We have
Melb or Syd x2 (3)
Perth (1)
Ade (1)
Bris (1)
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Townsville (1)
Canberra (1)
Newcastle (1)

And we only need 8 right?
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Old October 24th, 2007, 07:52 AM   #2398
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I think you missed the point.

What im saying is that everyone is against us in holding a grand event and saying we cant do this and that. What im saying is.... give it to us and we'll probaly do a better job then what you can.
I don't recall many people being agenst the 2000 olympics and I'v seen very little evidense you'd hold a "better" WC.
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Old October 24th, 2007, 12:14 PM   #2399
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What im saying is that everyone is against us in holding a grand event and saying we cant do this and that. What im saying is.... give it to us and we'll probaly do a better job then what you can.

Is that last line going to be the entire Australian Pitch for the World Cup?
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Old October 24th, 2007, 12:29 PM   #2400
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australia isnt a football country..you might as well give it to india.
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