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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old November 1st, 2007, 11:40 PM   #2521
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what?? how many times does mexico need to have it????
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Old November 1st, 2007, 11:53 PM   #2522
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@FlicKlings:

I like the brazilian stadia and projects. I've already been to Brazil and i went to some stadia there. But let's discuss this issue in the Brazil 2014 thread,ok?
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Old November 1st, 2007, 11:57 PM   #2523
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I don't think we are much of a chance for 2018, think we have a better chance for 2022, but at least we are putting our name in the ring.

As for stadiums, if I remember correctly the minimum number of stadiums is 8. I can see us just filling this quota, and maybe using 10 if we also put in Canberra and Townsville.

This is what I would have:

1. Telstra Stadium - Sydney
Capacity - 83,500


2. Sydney Football Stadium - Sydney
Capacity - 45,500


3. Melbourne Cricket Ground - Melbourne
Capacity - 100,000


4. Suncorp Stadium - Brisbane
Capacity - 52,500


5. Skilled Park - Gold Coast
Capacity - Currently 27,000 (to be upgraded to 40,000 for World Cup)


6. EnergyAustralia Stadium - Newcastle
Capacity - Currently 26,126 (to be upgraded to 40,000. Talks in progress with NSW Government for this to happen already)


7. StadiumWA - Perth
Capacity - Proposed to be 60,000

Picture is illustration only and not exactly what stadium will look like

8. Adelaide Rectangular Stadium - Adelaide
Capacity - 45,000
Adelaide would need to build a new stadium is none of their current stadia (AAMI Stadium, Adelaide Oval and Hindmarsh Stadium) fit the requirements. By such time as 2018/2022 Adelaide will require a larger rectangular stadium for Adelaide United, Socceroos, Wallabies games and this will provide just that. Something similar to the Gold Coast would be ideal.


I think Australia is more than capable of hosting a brilliant FIFA World Cup. Obviously we have some factors against us, but we have shown in the past we are capable of putting to world class events and a FIFA World Cup would be no different!
Excellent combination but as the capital Canberra needs to be included
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 12:27 AM   #2524
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Agreed. Canberra Stadium could easily be upgraded to 45,000+ as well.
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 12:44 AM   #2525
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Benelux can organise a WC:

belgium:

1 New national stadium in Brussels (60 000 seater , cost : 200 000 000 euro's in a business and shopping complex of 1 000 000 000 euro's (congrescenter, shopping malls, covered indoor sport center,...) near schaarbeek. (execution in 2012-2014) => opening ceremony

- beatiful training complex near tubize: 5 pitches (2 syntetic, 1 indoor,
mini-pitch,training zone for keepers,3 tennis courts, mountenbike
track, finnish pist, Sports hotel, rooms for semenars with simultane
translation, rugby pitch,.... : already executed

2 Brugge ( new 40 000 seater) + shopping centre:



3 Antwerp (new 40 000 seater): still 4 locations left. Study is on progress

4 Luik (new 40 000 seater ): or in Luik city or in Ans. Like Allianz arena in munchen

5 Genk ( expansion to 40 000? ): will now comercially expanded by shopping centre, disco, casino,...
Museum and uplift business sections already executed
For WC a tird ring probably










or

5 Gent: Arteveldestadium expanded to 40 000 ?: cost 40 000 000 + Shopping centre




Netherlands:

feyenoord Kuip: probably 75 000+



Ajax Arena: 50 000 or expansion to 60000





AZ Alkmaar DSB stadium: 16 000=> 45000 (expansion is approved by government)



PSV (45 000)


Heerenveen, Groningen,...?

heerenveen:



groningen:



Much better than hypermodern stadiums where there is no interaction between fans and players, where you feel like watching a movie.

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Old November 2nd, 2007, 12:50 AM   #2526
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only thing i wanna see australia host is im a celebrity get me out of here!
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 12:55 AM   #2527
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Well FIFA wants a cash strong WC 2018 after two WCs that won't make massive profits, so they want a big average stadia capacity and lots of fans that can pay quite a bit, this is very good for England who by 2018 will have so many good and large stadia (e.g. Wembley, Emirates, New Anfield, Old Trafford) that I suspect the average attendance will be largest in an England World Cup 2018.

Potential England stadia, compiled by the Daily Telegraph with some changes by me.

England's potential stadia: Capacity
Wembley Stadium London 90,000
Old Trafford Manchester United 76,212
Emirates Stadium Arsenal 60,432
Liverpool's (planned Stanley Park stadium) Liverpool 60,000 - 80,000
West Ham's (planned new east London ground) West Ham 60,000
St James' Park Newcastle 52,387 (could go up to over 60000)
Everton's (planned Kirby stadium) Everton 50,000
Nottingham (planned new stadium) 50,000
Stadium of Light Sunderland 49,000 (could go up to over 50000)
City of Manchester Stadium Manchester City 47,726
Villa Park Aston Villa 42,573 (could rise)
Stamford Bridge Chelsea 42,055 (probably new and larger stadium by then)
Elland Road Leeds 40,242

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Old November 2nd, 2007, 01:13 AM   #2528
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It seems that England has already taken Russia out of the equation, that is good because that makes it easier to win block support from UEFA.

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http://www.sportinglife.com/football...World_Cup.html
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 01:16 AM   #2529
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Well FIFA wants a cash strong WC 2018 after two WCs that won't make massive profits, so they want a big average stadia capacity and lots of fans that can pay quite a bit, this is very good for England who by 2018 will have so many good and large stadia (e.g. Wembley, Emirates, New Anfield, Old Trafford) that I suspect the average attendance will be largest in an England World Cup 2018.

Potential England stadia, compiled by the Daily Telegraph with some changes by me.

England's potential stadia: Capacity
Wembley Stadium London 90,000
Old Trafford Manchester United 76,212
Emirates Stadium Arsenal 60,432
Liverpool's (planned Stanley Park stadium) Liverpool 60,000 - 80,000
West Ham's (planned new east London ground) West Ham 60,000 only if it's larger than Emirates
St James' Park Newcastle 52,387 (could go up to over 60000)
Everton's (planned Kirby stadium) Everton 50,000
Nottingham (planned new stadium) 50,000
Stadium of Light Sunderland 49,000 (could go up to over 50000) - if it's expanded it will to either 55k (south stand extension) or 63k (south and east stand extensions)
City of Manchester Stadium Manchester City 47,726 not if Old Trafford used
Villa Park Aston Villa 42,573 (could rise)
Stamford Bridge Chelsea 42,055 (probably new and larger stadium by then) irrelevent unless new stadium larger than Emirates
Elland Road Leeds 40,242 not a chance in its current state - more chance of a new stadium being built either in Leeds or Sheffield
Sorry, but if it's about capacities and attendance then the finals would go straight to the USA. They could host a 12 venue finals with every stadium over 60k seats.

The English bid has a lot going for it that's more impressive than simple capacity (like history, travel, location, passion, etc.)
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 01:25 AM   #2530
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Well FIFA wants a cash strong WC 2018 after two WCs that won't make massive profits, so they want a big average stadia capacity
FIFA wants revenues not profits. They don't get rich from ticket sales.
Germany 2006 $2.8 billion
South Africa 2010 $3.2 billion secured (final amount est. - $3.5-4 billion)

In terms of average stadium capacity, South Africa has the highest since USA 1994.
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 01:47 AM   #2531
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The Benelux countries are fighting a losing battle here.

I'd say the MCG is more of a liability than an asset in the Australian bid. It's a cricket stadium not football stadium, the gaps to the pitch are just too far. Could you imagine a football game at Lords or The Oval?
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 01:52 AM   #2532
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 02:03 AM   #2533
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be interesting to see what happens with the olympic stadium now we are bidding for wc
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 02:05 AM   #2534
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Of more interest are West Ham and Tottenham's new stadiums, with half decent transport links they would likely replace the Emirates Stadium on the list.
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 02:19 AM   #2535
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When do they announce which stadiums are chosen?
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 02:36 AM   #2536
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Couple of years yet and even then the plans are liable to change.
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Old November 2nd, 2007, 03:43 AM   #2537
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Benelux can organise a WC:

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Old November 2nd, 2007, 04:51 AM   #2538
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I'd say the MCG is more of a liability than an asset in the Australian bid. It's a cricket stadium not football stadium, the gaps to the pitch are just too far. Could you imagine a football game at Lords or The Oval?
I tend to agree, but when you look at a couple of the stadiums planned for Brazil 2014, you have to wonder a little if it's any worse than them.
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The Benelux countries are fighting a losing battle here.

I'd say the MCG is more of a liability than an asset in the Australian bid. It's a cricket stadium not football stadium, the gaps to the pitch are just too far. Could you imagine a football game at Lords or The Oval?
I used to think the same way, but the fact that the pitch area had to be expanded for athletics at the Commonwealth games last year, and has since been returned to the pre Comm Games dimensions, would indicate that the distances from fans to field will actually be LESS than at Berlin, Stuttgart, Nurenberg, etc.
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FIFA wants revenues not profits. They don't get rich from ticket sales.
Germany 2006 $2.8 billion
South Africa 2010 $3.2 billion secured (final amount est. - $3.5-4 billion)

In terms of average stadium capacity, South Africa has the highest since USA 1994.
Why exactly?
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