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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 06:44 PM   #2801
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Sorry. I wasn't so much having a go at you as the things you were telling me. The thing is England do travel in huge numbers, maybe that does make people fearful but it oughtn't.

Anyway, regardless of the ignorance amonst some people on the continent, they're not the people who decide 2018 so that should in no way effect our bid for 2018:

"Forget marketing, forget promotion. The target audience is not the world.

"The executive committee of Fifa is 24 men, one of whom is Sepp Blatter. And these 24 men award the World Cup."


These are the words of the special advisor to FIFA president Sepp Blatter, Peter Hargitay who, along with Markus Siegler, Fifa's former director of communications is now working for England 2018.

FA hires big hitters for 2018 bid

Well, if it's going to be that way, maybe FC Bruges President Michel D'Hooghe (honorary president of the Belgian Football Union) can do something with his connections:

- President of the FIFA Medical Assessment and Research Centre
- Chairman of the UEFA Medical Committee
- European Member of the FIFA Executive Committee

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Old November 22nd, 2007, 07:27 PM   #2802
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Well, if it's going to be that way
Whether you like it or not, it is!

That's what these four years will be once the plans are completed; getting people on side and that's ALL about personal connections and what goes on behinf closed doors and in FIFA's corridors of power.
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 07:46 PM   #2803
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Do not forget the influence of:

Jacques Rogge (belgian): President of the IOC

The capital of Belgium , Brussels: city with a metropolian area of 2 to 4 million people. Capital of europe. Second diplomatic city in the world (after washington) and fifth business city of europe.


Reasons why I think a benelux bid is better than a single dutch bid.
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 07:51 PM   #2804
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I think la Belgique and Luxembourg should go on without those awful Dutch. Lots of Calatrava stadiums please!
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 07:59 PM   #2805
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Lol belgium doesn't even exists.
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 08:29 PM   #2806
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EU doesn't exist either, US is devided, Russia has more than 52 communities,...
There will always exist problems and tensions. It's how yoy manage those problems. You can do that with democracy or with a gun (Pim fortuyn in holland,...). So that's not a reason for a bid.
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 08:59 PM   #2807
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Do not forget the influence of:

Jacques Rogge (belgian): President of the IOC
I'm sure he has some influence but it certainly won't be decisive. It was known that he favoured Paris 2012 yet the IOC, the organisation he heads and the place where his influence is strongest, didn't vote for his preferred city.
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Old November 22nd, 2007, 09:22 PM   #2808
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Australia should get it imo
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 01:36 AM   #2809
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Lots of Calatrava stadiums please!
The first Calatrava building in Belgium is rising: the new railway station in Ličge. It would be nice to have a second one, more specifically: a stadium.
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 04:16 AM   #2810
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Do not forget the influence of:

Jacques Rogge (belgian): President of the IOC
Why would he have any influence what-so-ever over the World Cup? He's got nothing that FIFA want and they are the most self-obsessed organisation in the world.
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 06:10 AM   #2811
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Why would he have any influence what-so-ever over the World Cup? He's got nothing that FIFA want and they are the most self-obsessed organisation in the world.
Totally agree but I would've thought the word corrupt would be a more appropriate description of the IOC.
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 11:39 AM   #2812
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Totally agree but I would've thought the word corrupt would be a more appropriate description of the IOC.
Ha, maybe we should have a poll, who do we think is more corrupt FIFA or IOC? Would be a pretty close run thing.
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 01:05 PM   #2813
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The IOC have cleaned their act up somewhat since the scandals in the last decade. I think now it's definately FIFA that holds that crown.
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 01:30 PM   #2814
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Isn't it strange all those organisations founded by the Latins happen to be the most corrupt. Time for Germanic Institutions with our incorruptible administrations.
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Old November 23rd, 2007, 03:48 PM   #2815
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Since rogge headed the ioc, a lot of corruption is out there. The voting is now live on television. That's not with the Fifa. It's all a bit more transparant in the IOC for the moment. Not that it is all clean. But it's quite a bit less corrupt than in times of the situation of salt lake city.

Possible influence of rogge: countries in africa depend on money support from the ioc. The same countries have a vote in the fifa for a world cup. I think it can have influence.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 08:24 PM   #2816
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Unlike the English seem to think, this is still an issue. Call it ingnorant, but they're still regarded as a nation that brings a lot of violence. Whether it's true or not is sort of irrelevant. You'll have to start to try and change that image because it could hurt you. Well, not at Euro 2008 that is.
well i have to say then the rest of europe is out of touch and yes it is ignorence.The image of the english fan has changed but it seems europe chooses not to see it.As regards Euro 2008 i'm glad were not there because the group stages is all we would have played.And at the moment it's the team i am concerned about not the fans.If the team was like the fans the team would be world cup winners.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 08:26 PM   #2817
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Isn't it strange all those organisations founded by the Latins happen to be the most corrupt. Time for Germanic Institutions with our incorruptible administrations.
??? What are you trying to say here?
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Old November 25th, 2007, 01:05 AM   #2818
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well i have to say then the rest of europe is out of touch and yes it is ignorence.The image of the english fan has changed but it seems europe chooses not to see it.As regards Euro 2008 i'm glad were not there because the group stages is all we would have played.And at the moment it's the team i am concerned about not the fans.If the team was like the fans the team would be world cup winners.
That's why 6 thousand Croatians sounded like 84000 home fans and 84000 sounded like an away section somewhere stuck somewhere along the top tier?

And the Scottish showed ten times more passion as well in the match against Italy than you did last week...

On average, you've got good and loud fans but don't get carried away now...
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Old November 25th, 2007, 02:11 AM   #2819
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That's why 6 thousand Croatians sounded like 84000 home fans and 84000 sounded like an away section somewhere stuck somewhere along the top tier?

And the Scottish showed ten times more passion as well in the match against Italy than you did last week...

On average, you've got good and loud fans but don't get carried away now...
we were talking about recent behaviour of our fans this time you've turned to talking about vocal support(stick to the point at hand dude) well we are a little disillusioned with our teamat the moment as you can expect overpriced and overpaid muppets the only two players who showed balls were Beckham(as usual) and Crouch.(fans were gobsmacked as we all were nearly every england player who played that night were booed on the pitch today while playing for there respective clubs)
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??? What are you trying to say here?
Ignore him and he might go away. He's the biggest attention seeker on here.
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