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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old February 19th, 2008, 09:11 PM   #3061
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Does somebody know why Spain do not want bid alone?
Probably better things to think about?
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Old February 19th, 2008, 09:37 PM   #3062
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Does somebody know why Spain do not want bid alone?
Actually they haven't said anything at all, so nobody know the opinion of the Federation. The chronological situation is:

- Many internal problems in the Spanish Federation.
- Rumours about a Spanish alone bid.
- Portugal offered a joint bid without going deeper in the matter.
- Spain said they would study that as well as other options but it wasn't the right time to decide that (elections soon to happen and many internal affaires).
- Rumours and rumours, but nothing official.
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Old February 19th, 2008, 09:57 PM   #3063
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Spain isn't that happy with Blatter, right?
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Old February 20th, 2008, 07:43 PM   #3064
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Have you heard something new about China's bid for 2018 World Cup? They alreadygot stadiums and good infraestructure. I could even say that they can host a world cup just months after the Olympic Games.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 02:03 AM   #3065
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China could host a World Cup tomorrow. So could England, Spain, etc. Ten years or so of stadia and infrastructure improvements to any of those countries would make an awesome WC
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Old February 21st, 2008, 03:43 PM   #3066
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How many potential stadiums of China have no tracks?
Isn't there a max number of stadiums with tracks set by FIFA?
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Old February 21st, 2008, 03:46 PM   #3067
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China could host a World Cup tomorrow. So could England, Spain, etc. Ten years or so of stadia and infrastructure improvements to any of those countries would make an awesome WC
Bull, they could eventualy , but not tomorow.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 07:02 PM   #3068
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Bull, they could eventualy , but not tomorow.
Well, they could but it wouldn't be ideal...

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How many potential stadiums of China have no tracks?
Isn't there a max number of stadiums with tracks set by FIFA?
According to this site Most of their larger stadiums have athletics tracks around them. Granted, some of this may have changed with the Olympics but I feel safe in saying that China will have fewer true-football stadiums of 50k or more than any of the other bids offered, and their largest, showcase stadiums would have tracks around the pitch.

Could they host? Certainly. Would it rank high in terms of atmosphere? Highly unlikely. They simply lack the local crowds to foster the stadium infrastructure needed for that.
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Old February 21st, 2008, 09:14 PM   #3069
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Look like some british have said if you back england for 2018 england would be more than happy to back you up for 2022 but its all up to if china have got there poverty sorted and they australia is growing it could well be the size of 25 or 30 million people living in australis so you have got my vote.I think it should go south africa 2010,2014 ameica,2018 england 2022 australi then all the english speaking countries have got there wishes and then china or spain next.
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 05:27 AM   #3070
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Certainly Brisbane doesn't need any new stadiums? It already has 2 great stadiums: Suncorp for rugby and football, and the Gabba for AFL/cricket.

Newcastle, Canberra and Townsville will do fine with an upgrade of their current stadiums to a 40/45k capacity. I'm sure Hobart and Darwin can't sustain a world-cup size stadium at the moment. Besides, these cities don't even have AFL teams, so there's no need for non-rectangular stadiums. The only city that really needs to come up with some new stadium is Adelaide, and apperantly they just have! Agree about Brisbane, but that hasn't stopped Melbourne from having 3 top class stadiums. As for Canberra, Newcastle and Townsville, it's the old chestnut - why spent millions re-working an old stadium to meet minimum standards when you can build a new one and give the city a second sporting venue - an alternative for large events. On the whole, my idea was more based around justifying Federal Government spending on the new stadiums by not giving any state the chance to feel left out. I doubt that Hobart or Darwin would actually need a 40k stadium, but you never know what might happen if you built one.

And as far as an Australia WC being a logistical nightmare: why exactly? I'm sure Australia's road network and public transport is better than that of South Africa and Brazil. Moreover, all cities are easily accessable by airplane. Sydney to Perth is what, a 4 or 5 hour flight? No problem there I think. And people go down under to travel all the time anyways .
South Africa is a lot smaller than Australia, the venues a lot closer together. Brazil is a freak of a bid - they were selected unopposed and as such didn't have to be more convenient or more organised than any other prospective bidder. As for people travelling around Oz all the time - yep, they do it in 2s and 3s, over a period of weeks - during the world cup you've got thousands of fans trying to get from A to B in 2 or 3 days to make their nation's next fixture. It puts a strain on the transport infrastructure of ANY country.
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 11:03 AM   #3071
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I think the biggest problem for Australia is that FIFA is interested mostly in money and Australia would probably be the bid they get the least money from.
Would have to agree with that. Australia has the stadiums, but new territory like Canada would make more sense financially for FIFA. Stadiums, persistence, Australian political will and popular support will eventually get the WC for Australia.

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Old February 22nd, 2008, 11:27 AM   #3072
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I think the adelaide stadiums is going in the write direction and isnt townsville and gold coast joining the a-league if so thats another good thing but in my opinin oz has gotplenty of time to do it.If you have 50 people a day moving to oz which you have you should have a steady population growth and possibly leading to attendence growth in the a-league.
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 12:39 PM   #3073
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I'm sure there is more than 50/day. That's only 18,250/year! Besides, Australia has over 21 million people. That's enough of a population base to stage a WC and still draw adequate attendance.
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 04:56 PM   #3074
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No i meant to say 50 brits a day.
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 02:09 PM   #3075
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Its official enough!

Australia to bid for FIFA World Cup 2018
http://news.theage.com.au/australia-...0223-1u8g.html

February 23, 2008 - 10:55PM

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Australia is to bid for the soccer World Cup in 2018.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has announced the government's backing for the bid, saying it's a natural follow-on from the popularity of the game in Australia and the success of the Socceroos in the 2006 event.

The prestigious tournament is the second-largest sporting event in the world, watched by about 26 billion people around the globe.

Hosting it would generate tens of billions of dollars for the Australian economy, Fairfax newspapers report.

Mr Rudd said Australia faces an uphill battle for hosting rights against rivals England, China, Mexico and Canada.

"Winning the rights to host the 2018 FIFA World Cup is a herculean task, but overcoming tough odds is what Australian football does best," he told Fairfax.

"For an Australian world cup bid to be successful, the FFA (Football Federation Australia) will need the full and united support of the commonwealth and state and territory governments."

FFA chief executive Ben Buckley will head the bid team, which includes state and federal government representatives.

Mr Rudd said the team would meet next week to begin planning the bid, the cost of which would be shared between federal and state governments.

FIFA chairman, Westfield boss Frank Lowy, has met with Mr Rudd to brief him on the merits of hosting the World Cup.

"In the same way Australia has developed a relationship with all levels of India by virtue of our common cricket interests, soccer - which is the huge sport in every Asian country - is an entree to promoting Australia's interests around the world," Mr Lowy's spokesman Mark Ryan told News Ltd newspapers.

© 2008 AAP
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 03:34 PM   #3076
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whats the biggest sporing event then cant be olympics surely
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 05:12 PM   #3077
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The olympics are the biggest sporting event.
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 05:50 PM   #3078
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The olympics are the biggest sporting event.
In terms of the number of sports and athletes yes. But..... http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/fifa...6e_tv_2658.pdf
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Old February 23rd, 2008, 07:20 PM   #3079
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Rudd seems to be being realistic about it, which is nice. Too many Aussie politicians and media have seemed to think that any Aussie bid would be good enough because, well, it's Australia...

They should go for 2018, but realistically they need to hope that China don't get a look in and then use it as a springboard/trial run for 2022.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 03:29 AM   #3080
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Look like some british have said if you back england for 2018 england would be more than happy to back you up for 2022 but its all up to if china have got there poverty sorted and they australia is growing it could well be the size of 25 or 30 million people living in australis so you have got my vote.I think it should go south africa 2010,2014 ameica,2018 england 2022 australi then all the english speaking countries have got there wishes and then china or spain next.
If Oz got 2022, China wouldn't get it for a while. They're in the same confederation as us.
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