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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old February 24th, 2008, 05:10 AM   #3081
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I guess the decisive votes will come from South America, Africa and Oceania since they're the only ones that won't have any bid - meaning that a bid would get the votes from his continent. Therefore I guess Concacaf will have to decide between USA and Canada (and Mexico?), AFC between China and Australia and UEFA between England, Portugal/Spain and Benelux if they don't want to risk a division on their confederation votes. Would they make their choices considering the countries' influence in each continent?

By the way, if there's a draw to whom do you think Blatter will give his vote to break the tie?
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Old February 24th, 2008, 09:32 AM   #3082
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...By the way, if there's a draw to whom do you think Blatter will give his vote to break the tie?
Which ever nation has got their tonge the furthest up his arse!

He is a slimey, corrupt fool, and should not be trusted by any country.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 10:07 AM   #3083
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I guess the decisive votes will come from South America, Africa and Oceania since they're the only ones that won't have any bid - meaning that a bid would get the votes from his continent. Therefore I guess Concacaf will have to decide between USA and Canada (and Mexico?), AFC between China and Australia and UEFA between England, Portugal/Spain and Benelux if they don't want to risk a division on their confederation votes. Would they make their choices considering the countries' influence in each continent?

By the way, if there's a draw to whom do you think Blatter will give his vote to break the tie?
The wise move would be for Australia/Asia to make a deal with England/Europe - we'll back you for 2018 and if you back us for 2022, it's probably the best way to squeeze out North America in 2018.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 11:19 AM   #3084
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Australia to host the World Cup 2018, ha ha ha ha, good one, especially with the names Russia and China involved - Australia just isn't that interested in football to throw the scores/hundreds of millions of dollars worth of bribes needed to secure this sort of event; we learned that with Brisbane's bid for the World Athletics championships.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 12:25 PM   #3085
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Australia to host the World Cup 2018, ha ha ha ha, good one, especially with the names Russia and China involved - Australia just isn't that interested in football to throw the scores/hundreds of millions of dollars worth of bribes needed to secure this sort of event; we learned that with Brisbane's bid for the World Athletics championships.
what a crap comment, lol. australia has quite a good stadium infrastructure, the game is becomming more popular there, the a-league is a success, and australia has a great history of hosting events!
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Old February 24th, 2008, 12:31 PM   #3086
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Would have to agree with that. Australia has the stadiums, but new territory like Canada would make more sense financially for FIFA. Stadiums, persistence, Australian political will and popular support will eventually get the WC for Australia.
Sure Canada is new territory for the FIFA, but so is Australia basically. And Australia is in the same timezone as Asia, which is FIFA's largest new territory!
Canada is really a long way from ever hosting a World Cup. There stadium infrastructure really sucks (you guys have great arenas though), and Canada has only one team in the MLS, come on!
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Old February 24th, 2008, 02:13 PM   #3087
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Canada is a big enough country to have its own soccer league. On a technical level you could be better than the American league. You should not get into bed with the US.

10 years ago Canada had a decent international team, dunno what happened. Still remember Frank Farina needing to nail that great goal so we could progress to play Argentina in 1993. Canada needs to lose it's inferiority complex.

Never know, the Canadians might make it through CONCACAF. If Jamaica and Trinidad can, it surely cannot be very difficult.

Fingers crossed Oz gets the 2018(although I doubt it). One day, we will stage it, I am sure. Shame old Johnny Warren won't be around. Maybe Les Murray will make it though(providing he gives up the fags).
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Old February 24th, 2008, 02:56 PM   #3088
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Canada is a big enough country to have its own soccer league. On a technical level you could be better than the American league. You should not get into bed with the US.

10 years ago Canada had a decent international team, dunno what happened. Still remember Frank Farina needing to nail that great goal so we could progress to play Argentina in 1993. Canada needs to lose it's inferiority complex.

Never know, the Canadians might make it through CONCACAF. If Jamaica and Trinidad can, it surely cannot be very difficult.

Fingers crossed Oz gets the 2018(although I doubt it). One day, we will stage it, I am sure. Shame old Johnny Warren won't be around. Maybe Les Murray will make it though(providing he gives up the fags).
2018 will go to Europe - which means Aussie won't get it until 2022, IF they can beat China... If China gets 2022, then it's 2034 at the earliest for Australia... Don't think Les will make it for that one.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 03:00 PM   #3089
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Australia to host the World Cup 2018, ha ha ha ha, good one, especially with the names Russia and China and England, Spain, the USA and Mexicoinvolved - Australia just isn't that interested in football to throw the scores/hundreds of millions of dollars worth of bribes needed to secure this sort of event it's not so much the bribes, it's more a case that Aussie hasn't got much to offer other FIFA members, England have already agreed to visit Trinidad and play a friendly in order to get their vote - an Australian offer wouldn't carry the same weight; we learned that with Brisbane's bid for the World Athletics championships.
Other than that - it's nice to see someone from over here who isn't so **** sure that Australia will host the thing.

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what a crap comment, lol. australia has quite a good stadium infrastructure, the game is becomming more popular there, the a-league is a success, and australia has a great history of hosting events!
Stadium infrastructure is dubious. In stadium terms, The USA and China, could both host the 2010 World Cup with existing stadia if required. No upgrades required to fulfill FIFA requirements.

England and Spain will both have the required number and standard of stadium by 2014, without any additional spending beyond that which is already planned by clubs.

Australia has to BETTER those potential bids rather than simply match FIFA's minimum specifications.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 03:12 PM   #3090
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Australia? they have a little chance but not a lot
Russia cannot compete against australia with the actual infrastructure situation...
And china is no match for anyone except England and perhaps Spain.
I really think Australia won't get it, at least for 2018 cos it will be Europe's turn.
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Old February 24th, 2008, 10:46 PM   #3091
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Australia to bid for FIFA World Cup 2018
http://news.theage.com.au/australia-...0223-1u8g.html
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Bull, they could eventualy , but not tomorow.
See this link for already completed stadia in China that could host a football match:
http://www.worldstadiums.com/asia/countries/china.shtml

You can't argue with 16 stadiums with 50,000+ capacity. Most have running tracks admittedly, but in terms of capacity of stadia (which is favourable to FIFA) then China's the next best country to the USA.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 01:33 AM   #3092
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Great news!
I bought and read the Age yesterday - three large articles about the potential bid and all three seemed to miss the point that it's not about meeting FIFA's specifications, it's about beating the bids of England, Spain, the USA and China.

Best (in terms of amusement) bit was when, having pointed out Australia's lack of 'rectangular' stadiums of suitable size, etc., they suggested the solution might be a joint bid with New Zealand, with the Kiwis putting in a couple of venues... Amusing as New Zealand only has one stadium of suitable size - and it's an oval.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 05:36 AM   #3093
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i can't see australia getting 2018 but its important they bid, 2018 is bound to be in europe, and australia should cut a deal with england before china does because china or australia will get 2022, and the planks get 2026

or just do nothing and hand over blank cheques to warner and blatter!
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Old February 25th, 2008, 08:22 AM   #3094
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...they suggested the solution might be a joint bid with New Zealand, with the Kiwis putting in a couple of venues... Amusing as New Zealand only has one stadium of suitable size - and it's an oval.
You are a little wide of the mark there Bennie, on a couple of points. By the time of the rugby WC in 2011, Eden Park will be a 60k+ venue, AMI Stadium in Christchurch will be 46,000 and Wellington's 'cake tin' will just be shy of the magic 40,000 figure.

Regarding your oval claim, it's a little misleading. The area with the biggest space between pitch and spectators would be the cake tin, and it's certainly not big enough to include a running track. So the spectators would be much closer to the game then if they were at say, the MCG.

And what is wrong with a joint bid with the Kiwi's? I can think of two points straight away which would be beneficial to you Aussies. Firstly, it would save you ten's if not hundred's of millions of dollars on at least three new stadiums. And secondly, and most important IMO. You would actually have the backing of the Oceania confederation. Given it is just about the only way they would ever have the chance to help stage a finals, both they and Blatter would be in real favour of it.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 08:51 AM   #3095
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Thing is though is that it seems very doubtful to happen.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 11:09 AM   #3096
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You are a little wide of the mark there Bennie, on a couple of points. By the time of the rugby WC in 2011, Eden Park will be a 60k+ venue, AMI Stadium in Christchurch will be 46,000 and Wellington's 'cake tin' will just be shy of the magic 40,000 figure. fair enough, I was unaware of the expansion plans

Regarding your oval claim, it's a little misleading. The area with the biggest space between pitch and spectators would be the cake tin, and it's certainly not big enough to include a running track. So the spectators would be much closer to the game then if they were at say, the MCG. the only reason I accept the notion of using the MCG is it's enormous capacity, other than that I'd find it as frustrating as Berlin's Olympic Stadium, etc. My comment was more directed towards the Age's own comment that FIFA would frown on ovals, then there direct contradictory statement that if this was a problem, NZ could help out - with similar venues!!

And what is wrong with a joint bid with the Kiwi's? I can think of two points straight away which would be beneficial to you Aussies. Firstly, it would save you ten's if not hundred's of millions of dollars on at least three new stadiums. Given a choice between a joint bid and a solo bid, I'm pretty sure FIFA will go for the solo bid - they got stung badly with Japan/Korea

And secondly, and most important IMO. You would actually have the backing of the Oceania confederation. Agreed on that Given it is just about the only way they would ever have the chance to help stage a finals, both they and Blatter would be in real favour of it.
The big question regarding a joint bid is who would miss out of the extra spot at the finals? Australia and New Zealand would both have to get host spots - which means that another Federation would have to lose a spot. Asia would begrudge losing an auto spot to Oceania, which could lead them to voting against Australia/New Zealand, or against Blatter himself at the Presidential election - and Blatter won't allow that to happen. The other Oceanic nations would object to losing their 'half' spot, and could vote against Australia/New Zealand. It's a political minefield.

For the record, wasn't intended to be in any way condescending toward New Zealand, the comments were aimed square at The Age... Which also suggested that the MCG, TelstraDome AND the new 'Bubbledome' could be used as venues in an Aussie bid... 3 in 1 city, nice thinking boys.
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Positive bit of news today - the AFL have stated today that they will support any bid for the World Cup and are happy to suspend the AFL season for 5 weeks if required. Still don't expect Oz to get 2018, but knowing that the AFL won't get in the way is a big step toward a solid bid in 2022.
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i can't see australia getting 2018 but its important they bid, 2018 is bound to be in europe, and australia should cut a deal with england before china does because china or australia will get 2022, and the planks get 2026

or just do nothing and hand over blank cheques to warner and blatter!
Yep, that's definitely our best shot at hosting it IMO.
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Old February 25th, 2008, 12:54 PM   #3099
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Positive bit of news today - the AFL have stated today that they will support any bid for the World Cup and are happy to suspend the AFL season for 5 weeks if required. Still don't expect Oz to get 2018, but knowing that the AFL won't get in the way is a big step toward a solid bid in 2022.

Thats because the AFL know they have no choice!
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Thats because the AFL know they have no choice!
Still nice of them to be complient (and to know their place).
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