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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old February 27th, 2008, 01:45 AM   #3121
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Australia to bid for FIFA World Cup 2018
http://news.theage.com.au/australia-...0223-1u8g.html

February 23, 2008 - 10:55PM

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Australia is to bid for the soccer World Cup in 2018.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has announced the government's backing for the bid, saying it's a natural follow-on from the popularity of the game in Australia and the success of the Socceroos in the 2006 event.

The prestigious tournament is the second-largest sporting event in the world, watched by about 26 billion people around the globe.

Hosting it would generate tens of billions of dollars for the Australian economy, Fairfax newspapers report.

Mr Rudd said Australia faces an uphill battle for hosting rights against rivals England, China, Mexico and Canada.

"Winning the rights to host the 2018 FIFA World Cup is a herculean task, but overcoming tough odds is what Australian football does best," he told Fairfax.

"For an Australian world cup bid to be successful, the FFA (Football Federation Australia) will need the full and united support of the commonwealth and state and territory governments."

FFA chief executive Ben Buckley will head the bid team, which includes state and federal government representatives.

Mr Rudd said the team would meet next week to begin planning the bid, the cost of which would be shared between federal and state governments.

FIFA chairman, Westfield boss Frank Lowy, has met with Mr Rudd to brief him on the merits of hosting the World Cup.

"In the same way Australia has developed a relationship with all levels of India by virtue of our common cricket interests, soccer - which is the huge sport in every Asian country - is an entree to promoting Australia's interests around the world," Mr Lowy's spokesman Mark Ryan told News Ltd newspapers.

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Wow, an extra 20 billion people then what's on the planet watch the WC...shows how popular it is!

The football WC is bigger then the Olympics any day, I mean honestly, who watches the Olympics from start to finish these days....the opening ceremony, maybe you'll swtcih on the tv a few times if your country if participating in something...even the stadiums are half empty quite often...compare this to the sheer number of people watching every game of the WC, with sell-out crowds for every game, hundreds of millions of people watching the final.....
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Old February 27th, 2008, 03:27 AM   #3122
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Wow, an extra 20 billion people then what's on the planet watch the WC...shows how popular it is!

The football WC is bigger then the Olympics any day, I mean honestly, who watches the Olympics from start to finish these days....the opening ceremony, maybe you'll swtcih on the tv a few times if your country if participating in something...even the stadiums are half empty quite often...compare this to the sheer number of people watching every game of the WC, with sell-out crowds for every game, hundreds of millions of people watching the final.....
Whilst I agree that the World Cup is bigger than the Olympics - I think if you had experienced the difficulty in obtaining tickets for Olympic events, you would appreciate that "half empty" stadiums are few and far between.

As for all WC games being sell-outs - yup, they may sell the tickets, but they don't always fill the seats... There were quite a few patches of empty seats at Czech Rep vs Ghana in 2006 - but the attendance was still given as capacity... Serbia & Montenegro vs Holland was played in the 43k capacity stadium, with an official attendance of 37,216 (other games at the venue were listed as 43k sell-outs)
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Old February 27th, 2008, 03:34 AM   #3123
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Here's the reason Australia wont get it:

Largesse

We stand on our own laurels. An Australian FIFA world cup would be the best ever, just like the 2000 Olympics and the 2003 Rugby World Cup. Australia loves sport for sport - not money. Our problem is that we aren't inherently corrupt and/or willing to pay the hundreds of millions worth of bribes to secure such an event. Up against China and Russia???? No hope.
In which case it's a miracle that Sydney got the 2000 Olympics - at the very height of brown envelope dealings within the IOC. As for not being inherently corrupt - what was our nation founded on? ;-) And seriously... It's big business that bids for the finals - Australian big businesses have proved to be just as corrupt as any of our overseas friends.

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That's also why you lost to Italy in WC 2006, you were just out there playing football, expecting the match to be decided on merit, you weren't experienced enough to know that when an Italian player enters the opposition penalty area he's better at diving then an Olympic swimmer!
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Lucas Neill, who offered the Italian a body to fall over, has played most of his career in the upper leagues of England, he knows all about the tendancy of 'top' players to take a dive when offered the chance.

Timmy Cahill, also a regular in English football, flopped in the Italian box on at least one occasion in the couple of minutes prior to the Italians getting their penalty. His was a worse attempt to win the game through cheating.

The only naivity evident in Australia's World Cup was that in the opinions and reactions of the Aussie media, and as a result by those members of the public who only became interested in football during the world cup.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 08:49 AM   #3124
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Whatever, we will get it one day. There is only really 20 countries in the world that could do the job and Oz is one of them.

It'll happen.

Russia and China hosting it, are you kidding? They are 3rd world countries which are closed states. If FIFA wanted a complete failure. It was a pain in the arse to get to Japan let alone China and Russia.

HAve any of you guys tried getting a visa for those places? You have to be 'invited' in Russia.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 09:08 AM   #3125
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Still nice of them to be complient (and to know their place).

The AFL is one of the largest leagues in the world, you can't compare a league to a Competition between multiple countires, but saying they "Know their place" is a load of shit, the AFL could easily go and tell FIFA to go and get ****ed and nothing would happen to the AFL.

I think we would get it over China simply because of what China have done re: the olympics, just knocking down whole villages and kicking millions out of their homes to build stadiums.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 10:29 AM   #3126
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PrinzPaulEugen is that david Carney in your pick.
That's Steve Waugh mate.

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The AFL is one of the largest leagues in the world, you can't compare a league to a Competition between multiple countires, but saying they "Know their place" is a load of shit, the AFL could easily go and tell FIFA to go and get ****ed and nothing would happen to the AFL.
WTF?
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Old February 28th, 2008, 03:22 AM   #3127
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The AFL is one of the largest leagues in the world, you can't compare a league to a Competition between multiple countires, but saying they "Know their place" is a load of shit, the AFL could easily go and tell FIFA to go and get ****ed and nothing would happen to the AFL. Easy tiger, my post was not intended to be taken seriously...

I think we would get it over China simply because of what China have done re: the olympics, just knocking down whole villages and kicking millions out of their homes to build stadiums.FIFA couldn't give a toss about human rights - when the voting was taking place for 2010, it was Morocco and South Africa, FIFA's report on the two venues didn't mention Morocco's human rights record in the Wester Sahara - it concentrated on stadiums and infrastructure
All FIFA cares about is money and exposure. By having the tournament in China rather than Australia they would get more money and would ignite a nation of 1.2 billion as opposed to 20 million.

That said, it appears likely that the only competition between Australia and China will be the Asian selection of a bid to forward to FIFA - so the likes of Iran, Iraq, Syria, Pakistan, Thailand, North Korea, etc., voting against China because of it's human rights issues? Seems a bit of a stretch.
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Old April 19th, 2008, 11:21 AM   #3128
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Why is there so much bitterness and mocking to each other here ,your Countries all had won the right to host some kind of international sporting events and will be more to come in the future , so just take a break ,and let your counterpart put on a show for now, take it easy , recouperate yourself because no Country from the so called the third world will be able to snatch those games away from you guys , no need to churn one another into butter
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Old April 20th, 2008, 11:19 AM   #3129
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world cup 2010 south africa
world cup 2014 brazil
world cup 2018 england
world cup 2022 russia
world cup 2026 china

champions league 2007 athens
champions league 2008 moscow
champions league 2009 rome
champions league 2010 spain
champions league 2011 london
champions league 2012 berlin

uefa cup 2007 glasgow
uefa cup 2008 manchester
uefa cup 2009 istanbul
uefa cup 2010 hamburg
uefa cup 2011 valencia
uefa cup 2012 london

olympic games 2000 sydney
olympic games 2004 athens
olympic games 2008 beijing
olympic games 2012 london
olympic games 2016 rio
olympic games 2020 africa
olympic games 2024 north america
olympic games 2028 no games due to global disaster
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Old April 21st, 2008, 09:54 AM   #3130
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world cup 2018 england
world cup 2022 russia
Can't happen.

Back to back World Cups in Europe is a no-no.
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Old April 21st, 2008, 07:30 PM   #3131
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Can't happen.

Back to back World Cups in Europe is a no-no.
Money talks, money talks, dirty cash I need you, dirty cash i want you now, money talks money talks...
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 06:09 AM   #3132
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Money talks, money talks, dirty cash I need you, dirty cash i want you now, money talks money talks...
a) if money talks the USA should be on your list
b) the rules say no federation can host 2 world cups in a row (in fact, it currently says no federation can host 2 out of 3
c) that's a bad song
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 12:57 PM   #3133
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For football money talks in Europe. For the 2018 bid there are some interesting ones, next to England, The Netherlands & Belgium will also make a strong bid.
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Why the UK will not get the World Cup in 2018, noone said it better than the Iraqi Information Minister. "Britain is not worth an old shoe!"
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 04:42 PM   #3135
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Am i the only failing to see the fact that since when has russia been part of europe?!
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Am i the only failing to see the fact that since when has russia been part of europe?!
Russia has always been a part of Europe and is of course a member of UEFA.
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Old April 22nd, 2008, 08:08 PM   #3137
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a) if money talks the USA should be on your list
b) the rules say no federation can host 2 world cups in a row (in fact, it currently says no federation can host 2 out of 3
c) that's a bad song
a, i agree
b, that will change i am convinced
c, you are right its a very bad song
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Old April 23rd, 2008, 12:40 AM   #3138
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Am i the only failing to see the fact that since when has russia been part of europe?!
Um, Russia pushed England out of a qualifying spot for the Euro '08 in case you forgot........

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Old April 23rd, 2008, 03:16 AM   #3139
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Russia is a 'closed state'. Meaning tourists cannot just jump in a car in Berlin or Paris and drive up to Moscow.

There is that much red tape that it is just not worth the effort.

Parts of Russia is geographically in Europe, but their attitudes are backwards and insular.

The World Cup should only be staged in free states. We don't want to be like the IOC and reward these despotic anarchic states.
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Old April 25th, 2008, 04:46 PM   #3140
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Facts Russia:


area: 17,000,000 sqkm (european part: 4,000,000, asian part 13,000,000)
inh.: 148,000,000 (european part: 104,000,000, asian part 44,000,000)

Largest cities:

1. Moscow 10,000,000
2. Sankt Pertersburg 4,800,000
3. Novosibirsk 1,400,000


Distance from Moscow to Vladivostok: 7,000 km
Distance from Berlin to Moscow: 1,600 km
from Paris to Moscow 2,600 km
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