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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old April 25th, 2008, 05:11 PM   #3141
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Russia is a 'closed state'. Meaning tourists cannot just jump in a car in Berlin or Paris and drive up to Moscow.

There is that much red tape that it is just not worth the effort.

Parts of Russia is geographically in Europe, but their attitudes are backwards and insular.

The World Cup should only be staged in free states. We don't want to be like the IOC and reward these despotic anarchic states.
You can’t have followed the news the last 15 years. Russia is as far as I know open and you can travel wherever you want. It’s even much richer than the Old Empire (read England). Most of us West-Europeans will have problem to accept UK as Europe. You are the American’s “hangarounds” and have nothing in common with the European culture.
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Old April 25th, 2008, 05:30 PM   #3142
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"Closed state" is a wrong term to use , nowaday you can almost go any where in the world ,depending on your bank account ,for example Cuba has always been a "closed state" but their Tourism Industry has never been better than now so maybe they should host the World cup too , enough of all of the Countries mentioned above you guys are just very greedy and it shows
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Old April 27th, 2008, 03:29 PM   #3143
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Sure you can 'visit' Russia. But to obtain a visa practically everyone has to get this 'invitation'. Which is just beaureacratic red tape and is used by people just to screw money out of tourists.

It would be better if Russia just asked 50 US/GBP/Euros for a visa which entitles you to stay for 3 months.

Problem is because Russia is so suspicious of foreigners that it is impossible to get a simple system there. But I guess it suits certain types that they keep things the way they are.

I am afraid Russia has no chance of hosting anything more than a FIFA womens trophy in the short term until it becomes more westernized and liberal. When the two English clubs supporters have all kinds of problems getting in there for the UCL final it will prove how much trouble it is to get there by comparison with the west.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 05:27 PM   #3144
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Malcom Dunn, 47, mortgage broker, went to Moscow to watch England last October and hopes to return for the Champions League final.

'I think a lot of people are in for a shock about how things are in Moscow. It took me almost a month to get my visa for the England game, which cost £95. Then the costs of things in Moscow - a beer is £10 in a hotel bar, and a meal, even of steak and chips, will be a minimum £50 - are absolutely astronomical.

'Getting around is nigh-on impossible. The metro is cheap but it's difficult to follow because everything is in Russian. We didn't feel safe travelling on it. We were also told not to display flags or team colours or have meetings of more than four people because that's classed as almost a political rally and you ran the risk of being arrested.

'It's crazy to have the Champions League final in Moscow. Fans will need to be at the stadium three or four hours early just to get through the security.'


Why is UEFA staging big matches in Russia has to be asked. Stick to the western countries.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 02:25 AM   #3145
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What does any of this have to do with Australia and their (lack of) capability to host a World Cup!
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Old April 28th, 2008, 02:49 AM   #3146
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^

Someone brought up the prospect of Russia hosting it and I just wanted to nip that in the bud straight away. Incidently I will be in Russia next year for a while, so we will see just how free and prosperous they have become.

2018 will be between USA, England, Oz and China.

China should not get it either, simply because the place is a despotic closed state.

I would be more than happy with USA or England. England probably deserves it in all honesty, but it would be great if we could get it down here in Oz one day soon.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 05:07 PM   #3147
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Russia is a 'closed state'. Meaning tourists cannot just jump in a car in Berlin or Paris and drive up to Moscow.

There is that much red tape that it is just not worth the effort.

Parts of Russia is geographically in Europe, but their attitudes are backwards and insular.

The World Cup should only be staged in free states. We don't want to be like the IOC and reward these despotic anarchic states.

So the US with its VISA resitrictions, fingerprint, 4 hour waiting when coming to the country is an "open state'?

I think your pic of Russia has been frozen some 20 years ago.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 04:28 AM   #3148
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FIFA president Sepp Blatter wants Spain to bid for 2018 World Cup

"I have good memories of the 1982 World Cup in Spain," Blatter told a visiting party of 50 soccer officials from Spain led by Angel Maria Villar, a vice-president of FIFA.

"I have heard that you might have some interest in hosting another World Cup," Blatter said Monday. "I encourage the Spanish FA to present a bid and the next occasion when this would be possible is for 2018."

South Africa will be the first African nation to host the tournament in 2010, and Brazil has been awarded the 2014 World Cup.

The English Football Association has set aside 18.9 million euros (C$29.5 million) for its bid to host the 2018 tournament. Other likely candidates include Canada, the United States, Mexico, Belgium and Netherlands as a joint bid, Russia, China, Japan and Australia.

FIFA votes on the host nation in 2011.

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Old April 29th, 2008, 06:11 PM   #3149
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Malcom Dunn, 47, mortgage broker, went to Moscow to watch England last October and hopes to return for the Champions League final.

'I think a lot of people are in for a shock about how things are in Moscow. It took me almost a month to get my visa for the England game, which cost £95. Then the costs of things in Moscow - a beer is £10 in a hotel bar, and a meal, even of steak and chips, will be a minimum £50 - are absolutely astronomical.

'Getting around is nigh-on impossible. The metro is cheap but it's difficult to follow because everything is in Russian. We didn't feel safe travelling on it. We were also told not to display flags or team colours or have meetings of more than four people because that's classed as almost a political rally and you ran the risk of being arrested.

'It's crazy to have the Champions League final in Moscow. Fans will need to be at the stadium three or four hours early just to get through the security.'


Why is UEFA staging big matches in Russia has to be asked. Stick to the western countries.
wtf? I think this Malcom Dunn simply lies Steak and chips - maximum 1-1,5$, beer - 1$.
In the street it is possible to go absolutely free and with the big groups with flags, nobody will arrest you! And I agree that pic of Russia of many fool people has been frozen some 20 years ago.
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Old April 29th, 2008, 07:18 PM   #3150
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There is no way Spain should get it again before England does
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Old April 29th, 2008, 07:52 PM   #3151
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W/C, Olypmpic... are big Business ,that's where the money comes in for the Organizers and Corporations , as well as promoting their Country in the world stage, so it's no surprised people will do whatever it takes to disgrace other who's got the Game or want to compete with them for the right to host , to me they are all equally Deceptive no more or less , so it's better not to listen to any wild speculations because they will all die down after the games are over
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Old April 30th, 2008, 06:14 AM   #3152
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FIFA president Sepp Blatter wants Spain to bid for 2018 World Cup

"I have good memories of the 1982 World Cup in Spain," Blatter told a visiting party of 50 soccer officials from Spain led by Angel Maria Villar, a vice-president of FIFA.

"I have heard that you might have some interest in hosting another World Cup," Blatter said Monday. "I encourage the Spanish FA to present a bid and the next occasion when this would be possible is for 2018."

South Africa will be the first African nation to host the tournament in 2010, and Brazil has been awarded the 2014 World Cup.

The English Football Association has set aside 18.9 million euros (C$29.5 million) for its bid to host the 2018 tournament. Other likely candidates include Canada, the United States, Mexico, Belgium and Netherlands as a joint bid, Russia, China, Japan and Australia.

FIFA votes on the host nation in 2011.

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Sepp Blatter says exactly what his audience wants to hear... Now there's a new story.

I still say the only realistic options are England, USA and China... Mexico's had it twice (both since England last had it), Canada, lovely country, but I'd imagine they'd struggle with venues, Japan had 1/2 a tournament in 2002, and I'd imagine that a lot of UEFA nations would vote against a joint Belgium/Netherlands bid as it would reduce the number of spots available for qualification by one (I can think of at least a dozen nations more likely to qualify than Belgium, and at least 2 dozen who would be jealous of Belgium getting a 'free' path to the finals). And for my little Aussie, too much to overcome at this point (stature of the game, venues, distance, etc) - it's only 3 years til the vote, only 10 years til the finals, and we're still piddling around with an 8 team comp (only 7 in Oz) and average crowds of around 10k. Give it time to grow so we can do it properly. 2022, maybe 2026.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 10:44 AM   #3153
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Here are two little articles about English and Spanish 2018 bids:http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...h.worldcup2018
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/feedarticle/7491286
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Old April 30th, 2008, 11:49 AM   #3154
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wtf? I think this Malcom Dunn simply lies Steak and chips - maximum 1-1,5$, beer - 1$.
In the street it is possible to go absolutely free and with the big groups with flags, nobody will arrest you! And I agree that pic of Russia of many fool people has been frozen some 20 years ago.
Don't worry about Bob, he tends to talk crap.
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Sepp Blatter says exactly what his audience wants to hear... Now there's a new story.

I still say the only realistic options are England, USA and China... Mexico's had it twice (both since England last had it), Canada, lovely country, but I'd imagine they'd struggle with venues, Japan had 1/2 a tournament in 2002, and I'd imagine that a lot of UEFA nations would vote against a joint Belgium/Netherlands bid as it would reduce the number of spots available for qualification by one (I can think of at least a dozen nations more likely to qualify than Belgium, and at least 2 dozen who would be jealous of Belgium getting a 'free' path to the finals). And for my little Aussie, too much to overcome at this point (stature of the game, venues, distance, etc) - it's only 3 years til the vote, only 10 years til the finals, and we're still piddling around with an 8 team comp (only 7 in Oz) and average crowds of around 10k. Give it time to grow so we can do it properly. 2022, maybe 2026.
Average crowds are around 14,500, '09/'10 season will be 10 teams. I think it won't be long after that & the league will be 12 teams. But i agree with what you're saying otherwise.
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Old April 30th, 2008, 01:40 PM   #3156
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Australia will get the World Cup with this to be soon. You see we are the leaders in putting on world events. As Juan Antonio Samaranch said at the closing Ceremony of the Sydney 200 Games " You have put on the best Olympic Games ever!- crow goes mad". We the heard the same remark when Melbourne hosted the 2006 Commonwealth Games " You have staged the best Commonwealth Games ever- crowd goes nuts!". You see we areleaders, Atehns had a lot of bad press and 30 years to pay off Olympic Debt, Beijing is already screwed and from what I hear from town planner friends in London, its going to manin for 2012.

Melbourne alone is building a world class Soccer Stadium, if you go to OZSCRAPER and click VIC down the bottom you will see a topic called" rectangluar stadium", that will be done by the end of next year. We are in preperation for the World Cup as it may seem. We have a booming A League with many International Players playing for our teams, and Famous Greek team alone cant remember what one is going to have their international base at our new stadium in Melbourne. Now...

Add with the boom in Brisbane and Perth, along with tourists and migrants flociking to Australia and our excellent reputation, me thinks we will get in verty soon.

I would also like to comment on how some readers belive Australia isnt on the world radar in North America. What a load of shit, many Australian travel and do student exchange, not to mention the amount who are taking over Hollywood and as for the Kylie Minogue comment, she was just there 2 weeks ago on Danicng with the Stars!. People know where we are and often aspire to be like us, just speak to American backpackers whop dont want people to know they are from the US, and the refuse to say they are Canadian as they belive Canada is backwards.

In essence we will host the games and we will host the best games aswell!

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Old April 30th, 2008, 06:10 PM   #3157
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Oz will not get the WC for another 2 rounds. Reason? Simply that the next 2 are already Southern hemisphere tournaments. So, a 3rd one in a row won't happen. It'll probably be UK 2018, and then probably USA 2022. And then by 2026, that'll probably be between Oz, China and Russia.
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lol an arrogant aussie theres a suprise. Although in this instance there is nothing to be cocky about, Australia wont be capable of hosting the best ever world cup for a long time yet
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Old May 1st, 2008, 12:43 AM   #3159
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lol an arrogant aussie theres a suprise. Although in this instance there is nothing to be cocky about, Australia wont be capable of hosting the best ever world cup for a long time yet
Settle down! Don't be so stereotypical. There are just as many arrogant english people as there are aussies.
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Old May 1st, 2008, 06:45 AM   #3160
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Blatter need to make his mind up again.That second story the guy is hilarious
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