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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old April 15th, 2006, 11:05 AM   #301
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What I don't understand is wtf does it matter what shape the stadiums are when most likely they'll be filled with Aussies anyway and people like yourself (along with billions of others) will be watching the tournament from home. How will a non rectangular stadium affect your TV viewing experience???

As someone mentioned on the german world cup thread I don't think the views are actually that important during the world cup, its such a big event it will attract crowds anyway. Whats important(at least to FIFA) is that the world cup leave some kind of legacy for soccer in Australia, if your just using ovals soccer clubs will most likely not have access to them and even if they do the poor views become much more important when your trying to attract people to league games week in week out.

I wouldnt say that Brazil have done "nothing" as far as planning goes, there have been renders for a few new stadiums but we've heard nothing in the way of capacities of possible number of venues.
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Old April 15th, 2006, 12:13 PM   #302
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Old April 15th, 2006, 12:14 PM   #303
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Most of the Aussies posting in this thread have no ******* idea what they're talking about. Don't worry.

The sheer idiocy of some of the posts is doing my ******* head in



Depends what part of the country.

The southern states get pretty bloody cold, around Sydney it's not too bad and as you go up northern NSW and Queensland it's pretty bloody nice.

I assume Perth would be pretty nice too.

I think that is a relative term, "cold" it wouldn't be called considering most of the European leagues play matches in 0 degree weather at some point in their seasons. In June Adelaide is around 18 max 10 min, and Melbourne isn't that much colder so I think we will be alright
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Old April 15th, 2006, 12:25 PM   #304
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I think that is a relative term, "cold" it wouldn't be called considering most of the European leagues play matches in 0 degree weather at some point in their seasons. In June Adelaide is around 18 max 10 min, and Melbourne isn't that much colder so I think we will be alright
You're Lucky. Queensland is lucky to get 18 degrees as a minimum for half of winter.
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Old April 15th, 2006, 01:03 PM   #305
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I think that is a relative term, "cold" it wouldn't be called considering most of the European leagues play matches in 0 degree weather at some point in their seasons. In June Adelaide is around 18 max 10 min, and Melbourne isn't that much colder so I think we will be alright
Indeed, the climate in Australia in June would actually be far more suitable for games than most world cups have been.
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Old April 15th, 2006, 01:15 PM   #306
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I think Australia COULD do it. But not in 2014. That's too soon and we don't have the facilities. We really only have five suitable stadiums on hand.

Telstra Stadium(West Sydney)
Aussie Stadium(Sydney)
MCG(Melbourne)
Telstra Dome(Melbourne)
Suncorp Stadium(Brisbane)

Upgradable stadiums would be

Bruce Stadium(Canberra--Having games in the national capital would be good anyway. Also used for the ACT Brumbies(Rugby Union--RU) and the Canberra Raiders(Rugby League--RL))
Dairy Farmers Stadium(Townsville--Big post-World Cup use for the North Queensland Cowboys(RL) and possibly if the Queensland Reds(RU) or Queensland Roar(Soccer) decide to move some of their home games around Qld.)
EnergyAustralia Stadium(Newcastle--Again, big post-World Cup for the Newcastle Knights(RL) and possibly the NSW Waratahs(RU) or Newcastle Jets(Soccer))
Other possibilities include WIN Stadium(Woolongong)--Also used for St. George Illawara Dragons(RL)

*Note Western Stand(Left, red seats) is already planned for reconstruction, and will add another 5000 to the stadium's current capacityand stands on the hill in front of the beach wouldn't be too hard to construct. Upgrade the southern stand to mirror the north, and you've got yourself a good stadium.
Members Equity Stadium(Perth)--Easily Upgradable--Used for the Western Force(RU) and Perth Glory(Soccer)


So that's a total of 10 stadiums

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BTW wots the weather lik in oz during June July.
Well, if you were in Melbourne @ the MCG or Telstra Dome or if you were at and upgraded Bruce Stadium in Canberra, you'd be freezing your ass off. Sydney and Brisbane aren't that bad. Oh, and if you were at an upgraded Dairy Farmers Stadium in Townsville, Far North Queensland's winter = Europe/USA summer.

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Old April 15th, 2006, 02:10 PM   #307
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Hey, be glad that at least the MCG's stands now have a roof instead of being totally out in the open, and the windswept Waverley Park has been demolished.
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Old April 15th, 2006, 03:23 PM   #308
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it is not necessarily someone elses turn. it is the potential turn of any country that can meet all the necessary prerequisites. if that country is a new host, fantastic, if not, it's irrelevant that they've hosted the thing before. the most important thing is that they can host it to the standards demanded by fifa and the international footballing community (and rightly so).
Ironically the increases in size to let more nationals take part in the WC has also drastically reduced the number of countries able to host it. Most nations can support a big national stadium and a few other large ones for the dominate club sides but very few can come up with 10-12 40,000+ venues.

Its not as if the past history of hostes has no effect on the choices though. The lack of a previous African host clearly lead to SA hosting in 2010 and the fact Brazil havent hosted since 1950 clearly makes them the frontrunners for 2014, even the Germans can claim this is the first time a unified Germany has hosted it. Similarly I don't think the USA hosting twice in 20 years or the Mexicans 3 times in 44 years could get enough support for Blatter to push it though. The only way the former would get 2014 IMHO is if the Brazilians were awarded it then had to pull out a la Columbia in 1986 and even then England or Spain would be more obvious hosts with stadiums ready prepaired.

I still think that in general we might be seeing a shift back to mainly established leagues post 2010. With the USA, Korea/Japan and SA FIFA were clearly trying to open new markets outside of UEFA but IMHO at the cost of the World Cups credability in many fans eyes. As the Champs league and European Championships(which also diverts the smaller european nations away from trying to host the WC) gain on the World Cup in terms of popularity FIFA return to hosts like Brazil and England would do much to remedy that IMHO.
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Old April 15th, 2006, 03:46 PM   #309
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WC 2014 / 2018?

Who would it be? 2014 is Brazil / Oz / Canada.

But 2018?
UK & Ireland? Spain & Portugal? Italy?

UK & Ireland
Wembley - 90.000
Croke - 83.000
Twickenham - 82.000
Old Trafford - 76.000
Millennium - 75.000
Murray - 67.500
Celtic Park - 60.506
New Arsenal - 60.000
New Anfield - 60.000
St. James - 53.000
Hampden - 51.000
Ibrox - 50.000
Stadium of Light - 49.000
City of Manchester - 48.000
Villa Park - 43.000
Stamford Bridge - 42.000
Goodison - 40.000
Elland Road - 40.000

Spain & Portugal
Nou Camp - 98.000
Bernabeu - 80.000
La Cortuja - 72.000
Da Luz - 66.000
Vicente Calderon - 58.000
Ruiz de Lopera - 56.000
Lluís Companys - 56.000
Sánchez Pizjuán - 55.000
Mestalla - 53.000
José Alvalade - 50.000
Do Dragão - 50.000
San Mamés - 40.000

Italy
San Siro - 86.000
Olimpico - 82.000
San Paolo - 78.000
Delle Alpi - 71.000
San Nicola - 58.000
Artemio Franchi - 47.000
San Filippo - 43.000
Friuli - 42.000
Luigi Ferraris - 42.000
Marc'Antonio Bentegodi - 42.000
Renato dall'Ara - 40.000
Sant'Elia - 40.000
(most of Italian need fierce renovations though)
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Old April 15th, 2006, 03:47 PM   #310
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So you are saying this about THE Olympics too, which have temporary seating as well
I really didn't want to say this but it does sound that u do not know alot about football, This is THE WORLD CUP not the Olympics, probably not ur fault though as Football is not the most popular sport in oz also the lack of qualifying makes it harder for aussies to understand the importance and tradition of the world cup.
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Are u insane u cant have 5 football nations hosting the WC: ala UK & Eire.

I would say definately England, they would be the most prepared in my opinion, stadium wise. Spain probably the biggest threat, but they need a hell of a lot of work on their stadia, remeber all seats need to be under a roof.
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Old April 15th, 2006, 04:07 PM   #312
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hahahhahaa that's true. Anyway, i guess it's time to England host a WC again. England or Spain.
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Host for 2018 WC?

Which european country should host the World Cup in 2018?
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I'll start, deffo England, its about time!!!
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UK and Ireland is a bloody stupid idea. Why should we have to do any kind of a joint bid with any other country? England can host it alone, without the Celtic Menace.
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Old April 15th, 2006, 04:21 PM   #316
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Brazil:

Rio de Janeiro - Jornalista Mário Filho (Maracanã) - 103.000
Belo Horizonte - Estádio Magalhães Pinto - 82.000
São Paolo - Cícero Pompeu de Toledo - 80.000
São Luís - Estádio João Castelo - 75.000
Uberlândia - Estádio João Havelange - 72.000
Fortaleza - Estádio Plácido Castelo - 69.000
Salvador - Estádio Octávio Mangabeira - 66.000
Recife - José do Rego Maciel - 66.000
Teresina - Governador Alberto Silva - 60.000
P. Prudente - Eduardo José Farah - 58.000
Porto Alegre - José Pinheiro Borda - 58.000
Curitiba - Major Antônio Couto Pereira - 57.000
S.J. Rio Preto - Estádio Benedito Teixeira - 55.000
Belém - Olímpico Edgard Proença - 55.000
Goiânia - Estádio Serra Dourada - 54.000
Porto Alegre - Olímpico Monumental - 51.000
Ribeirão Preto - Estádio Santa Cruz - 50.000
Uberaba - Estádio João Guido - 50.000
Varginha - Estádio Dilzon Melo - 50.000
Cuiabá - Governador José Fragelli - 47.000
Recife - Ademar da Costa Carvalho - 46.000
Brasília - Estádio Mané Garrincha - 45.000
Maceió - Estádio Rei Pelé - 45.000
Curitiba - Centro Poliesportivo Pinheiro - 45.000
Londrina - Estádio Jacy Scaff - 45.000
João Pessoa - J. Américo de Almeida Filho - 45.000
Campina Grande - Governador Ernami Satiro - 45.000
Campo Grande - Universitário P. Pedrossian - 45.000
Manaus - Estádio Vivaldo Lima - 43.000
Limeira - José Levy Sobrinho - 40.000

Wow.
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capacity isn't everything. particularly looking at those stadia, this is definately the case!
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Old April 15th, 2006, 04:23 PM   #318
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Why european?
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Why european?
all world cups should be in europe. sharing it around da world iz all nice an' pimp-tight an' fair but da reality iz it makes fo' poor world cups. The last decent wc outside uh europe wuz Mexico 70. dere will never be another one just like mammy.
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