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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old May 28th, 2008, 03:16 PM   #3361
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well netherlands belgium is easier than two african countries with poor infrastructure wanting to co-host.
Yes, it would be hard to imagine Nigeria and Cameroon getting a bid together...

Weren't there plans for a north African co-bid for 2006 - Egypt and Libya, or Libya and Tunisia? Or similar. Scrapped early and superceded by Morocco's attempt.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 09:02 PM   #3362
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They turned down the money making machine for 2010 and 2014... Why not for 2018 and 2022..?
Clearly it was too soon for the US to host the WC in 2010 and 2014. Its not fair for a nation to host it only 16 years since the last time. I think England should get it for 2018 (although i wouldnt be disappointed if somehow the US got it, which they wont.) I think the 2022 bid is perfect for the US.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 09:16 PM   #3363
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I think Mexico is better choice for WC 2022
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Old May 28th, 2008, 09:35 PM   #3364
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Seriously hard to believe JohanSA doubted the quality of the USA's stadiums, they're probably the best in the world, and we all know they're capable of hosting a fantastic tournament. The only reason they wouldn't win if they bid, is because of political views.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 09:56 PM   #3365
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I think Mexico is better choice for WC 2022
Im not sure if Mexico has the infrastructure to hold it...the stadiums are too small, plus they already hosted it twice.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 09:58 PM   #3366
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Seriously hard to believe JohanSA doubted the quality of the USA's stadiums, they're probably the best in the world, and we all know they're capable of hosting a fantastic tournament. The only reason they wouldn't win if they bid, is because of political views.
Sorry, but that's underestimating you opponenets trmather. If the US doesn't win it's because FIFA prefer the bid of another nation and there could be many reasons for that aside from "politics". In any case, it's by no means a given that the US will put forward a better bid than its rivals, let alone put one in that's so superior that it could only lose because of politics!

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Old May 28th, 2008, 10:01 PM   #3367
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Football is No1 sport in Mexico but minor sport in US. That should also be a major consideration.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 10:20 PM   #3368
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Football is No1 sport in Mexico but minor sport in US. That should also be a major consideration.
If that was taken in to consideration then the US would not have hosted the WC in '94. Its a lot bigger here then you think. Just because our favorite sport is American football doesnt mean that people here are going to ignore the WC.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 10:32 PM   #3369
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If that was taken in to consideration then the US would not have hosted the WC in '94. Its a lot bigger here then you think. Just because our favorite sport is American football doesnt mean that people here are going to ignore the WC.
What I mean is that money is not the only concern in determining the host nation. If they're only concerned with money China will be the best choice.

I'd like to remind you that money is only one of many factors which should be taken into consideration.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 10:45 PM   #3370
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What I mean is that money is not the only concern in determining the host nation. If they're only concerned with money China will be the best choice.

I'd like to remind you that money is only one of many factors which should be taken into consideration.
Its not the only consideration, youre right. But dont forget that besides the money the US will bring in the US also has:

-many of the best stadiums in the world
-an extensive transportation system
-people who will go to the games

The US really is the best choice for the Cup in 2022 IMO.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 10:47 PM   #3371
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Sorry, but that's underestimating you opponenets trmather. If the US doesn't win it's because FIFA prefer the bid of another nation and there could be many reasons for that aside from "politics". In any case, it's by no means a given that the US will put forward a better bid than its rivals, let alone put one in that's so superior that it could only lose because of politics!
your right but we do receive a lot of unfair criticism over here
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Old May 28th, 2008, 10:52 PM   #3372
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Im not sure if Mexico has the infrastructure to hold it...the stadiums are too small, plus they already hosted it twice.
too small???

Azteca Stadium in Mexico City is the Second largest in the world after Maracana with 115,000
Also in Mexico City, the Olimpic stadium holds 75,000
Jalisco stadium in Guadalajara seats 65,000
In Monterrey the Estadio Universitario holds 45,000

Plus the new Chivas Stadium in Guadalajara will be state of the art in design, and we got huge projects on the way in the northern part of the country, in Monterrey, Torreon Tijuana and Ciudad Juarez

The old 1986 stadiums could get a facelift and espansion

Were getting ready and we will be hosting the sub17 world cup in 2011
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Old May 28th, 2008, 11:00 PM   #3373
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Its not the only consideration, youre right. But dont forget that besides the money the US will bring in the US also has:

-many of the best stadiums in the world
-an extensive transportation system
-people who will go to the games

The US really is the best choice for the Cup in 2022 IMO.

-many of the best stadiums in the world -> Nearly all of the stadiums will be dedicated to American football not association football after the tournament.

-an extensive transportation system -> Other competitors also have it.

-people who will go to the games -> That's not because football is popular in the US. That's because USA has so many people who are from so many countries.

There is no reason that the US really is the best choice for the Cup in 2022 IMO
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Old May 28th, 2008, 11:02 PM   #3374
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too small???

Azteca Stadium in Mexico City is the Second largest in the world after Maracana with 115,000
Also in Mexico City, the Olimpic stadium holds 75,000
Jalisco stadium in Guadalajara seats 65,000
In Monterrey the Estadio Universitario holds 45,000

Plus the new Chivas Stadium in Guadalajara will be state of the art in design, and we got huge projects on the way in the northern part of the country, in Monterrey, Torreon Tijuana and Ciudad Juarez

The old 1986 stadiums could get a facelift and espansion

Were getting ready and we will be hosting the sub17 world cup in 2011
yes Mexico has some large stadiums, but a lot of money has to be spent to upgrade the smaller ones.

I dont think FIFA would choose Mexico over the United States
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Old May 28th, 2008, 11:04 PM   #3375
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yes Mexico has some large stadiums, but a lot of money has to be spent to upgrade the smaller ones.

I dont think FIFA would choose Mexico over the United States
There are big projects on the way and stadiums being build, right now i dont have time to post pics but in a few hours ill upload some
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Old May 28th, 2008, 11:05 PM   #3376
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As for the 'larger nations' part, forgetting all of the transport, hotel, etc., issues, on a pure stadia basis, in order to host the finals you must have a minimum of 8 stadia (1x80k + 1x60k + 6 x 40k, all seater) spread over 7 locations.
i think its 70k for the final
65k for 2 stadia for the semi-finals
and 40(pref 45k) as a minimum for the QF
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Old May 28th, 2008, 11:07 PM   #3377
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yes Mexico has some large stadiums, but a lot of money has to be spent to upgrade the smaller ones.

I dont think FIFA would choose Mexico over the United States
by saying that you are claiming to predict the votes of 24 individuals who each vote for their own reasons. fifa doesnt vote as an organization. its 24 members on the day with their own prejudices and likes and dislike and wants and bribes in place that vote.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 11:15 PM   #3378
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We are not talking about what they "will" choose. We are talking about what they "should" choose.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 11:22 PM   #3379
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your right but we do receive a lot of unfair criticism over here
I like America, Americans, American democracy and spirit but can't help being anti-America as far as football is concerned.
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Old May 28th, 2008, 11:34 PM   #3380
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I like America, Americans, American democracy and spirit but can't help being anti-America as far as football is concerned.
But why?
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