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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old June 14th, 2008, 01:37 AM   #3501
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earthquakes arent exactly predicable.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 01:42 AM   #3502
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earthquakes arent exactly predicable.
Sure they are. Just watch the domestic animals.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 01:46 AM   #3503
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Sure they are. Just watch the domestic animals.
Recent scientific study shows those animal behaviors have nothing to do with earthquake predicion.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 01:48 AM   #3504
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Hurricane Katrina???

New Orleans???
If those arnt good examples of Natural disasters, then what is.

How about all the towns in the Central US that have been destroyed by floods and tornadoes?
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Old June 14th, 2008, 01:58 AM   #3505
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Recent scientific study shows those animal behaviors have nothing to do with earthquake predicion.
They pedicted a few large earthquakes in greece sucessfull lately, unfortunetly the local goverment has refused to let this information to the public, and thousands of lifes have been ruined in the Peloponeese.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 02:08 AM   #3506
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Recent scientific study shows those animal behaviors have nothing to do with earthquake predicion.
That's your loss.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 08:09 AM   #3507
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doesn't really matter though because england will get 2018.
and 2022 should go back to asia.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 02:50 PM   #3508
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i really want the 2018 world cup to come to england but as time goes on i more and more think we wont get it because we are being too ignorant in that we just plain and simply expect to get it. i believe this mentality is not helping us gain the world cup, you dont just deserve a world cup you earn it from proving that your world cup would be the best and it would be of most benefit going to your nation. and at the moment i can help but feel that england aren't doing either
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Old June 14th, 2008, 04:34 PM   #3509
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Well England is the favorite to win it, but you right, they have to win it. They can not and should not lean backwards and think that it is in the bag already. Especially Spain is a fierce competitor. And the Belgium-Netherlands bid is, though to me an outsider, certainly not without a chance.

So if they work hard to win it, they might get it. If they assume they have already won it, they could be surprised in a nasty way!
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Old June 14th, 2008, 05:01 PM   #3510
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i really want the 2018 world cup to come to england but as time goes on i more and more think we wont get it because we are being too ignorant in that we just plain and simply expect to get it. i believe this mentality is not helping us gain the world cup, you dont just deserve a world cup you earn it from proving that your world cup would be the best and it would be of most benefit going to your nation. and at the moment i can help but feel that england aren't doing either
I get that impression from some English people, but the bid team will not go about things in an arrogant way; especially after the 2006 bid. And luckily, they're the ones who matter when it comes to our chances, not the loudmouths who go around saying "we invented the game, it'd be an injustice if it's not given to us".
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and 2022 should go back to asia.
WRONG!! 2022 will go to the USA. I'll bet your grandchildren on that.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 08:35 PM   #3512
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Good thing you're not betting your own grandchildren, cause the US will not get an WC until 2030 at least. The least amount of time between planned WCs in the same country has been 34 years, and Germany added the East during that time so it could be argued it wasn't even the same country.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 09:05 PM   #3513
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Good thing you're not betting your own grandchildren, cause the US will not get an WC until 2030 at least. The least amount of time between planned WCs in the same country has been 34 years, and Germany added the East during that time so it could be argued it wasn't even the same country.
It does not matter how much time has been between host countries in the past. In 2022, if the USA puts together the best bid and the FIFA officials remember how much revenue they made on the 94 Cup, then the USA will get it.
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Old June 14th, 2008, 10:36 PM   #3514
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Unless China bids against them, in which case it's very hard to call. '94 could work for or against the USA in that scenario (for because it was a huge financial success, against because their main rival won't have hosted before).
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Old June 15th, 2008, 12:04 AM   #3515
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Good thing you're not betting your own grandchildren, cause the US will not get an WC until 2030 at least. The least amount of time between planned WCs in the same country has been 34 years, and Germany added the East during that time so it could be argued it wasn't even the same country.
Uhmm...
Men's WC - Mexico 1970 - 1986 -- 16 years?
Women's WC - USA 1999 - 2003 - 4 years?



Also, need I remind you that Los Angeles and Seoul were the IOC's 2 back-up cities for 2004 when it appeared that Athens might not make its deadlines. Not a very well-know fact but insiders know. That is a strong statement in itself.

So, you were saying?
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Old June 15th, 2008, 12:06 AM   #3516
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Uhmm...
Men's WC - Mexico 1970 - 1986 -- 16 years?
Women's WC - USA 1999 - 2003 - 4 years?

U were saying?
he said planned world cups...Mexico in '86 and the US in '03 were replacement hosts, they were supposed to go to other countries
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Old June 15th, 2008, 12:11 AM   #3517
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he said planned world cups...Mexico in '86 and the US in '03 were replacement hosts, they were supposed to go to other countries
But it doesn't matter. The fact is that FIFA went back to 2 countries after a short period of time. If Qaabus' theory that 'Not going back to a country so soon after" stands up, then maybe FIFA would have abandoned the 1986 and 2003 WCs if that notion were so fixed, rather than returning to a previous host. It's NOT -- so his whole argument just doesn't wash.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 12:19 AM   #3518
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Sorry, but ideally FIFA wouldn't have necessarily gone back to those countries so soon. Their hand was forced to an extent.

If we're going by who is awarded the world cup (i.e. who FIFA wanted to host, not back up plans) then Qaabus' figures are correct and indisputable.

The Question is though, can we project what's happened in the past to what's going to happen in the future? I'm not sure we can really. The USA could host in 2018 if their bid is good enough so ruling out the 2020s based on past gaps seems unrealistic to me. I'm fairly confident we'll see another USA world cup before 2030.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 12:22 AM   #3519
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Sorry, but ideally FIFA wouldn't have necessarily gone back to those countries so soon. Their hand was forced to an extent.

If we're going by who is awarded the world cup (i.e. who FIFA wanted to host, not back up plans) then Qaabus' figures are correct and indisputable.

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I understand that. But it's NOT always a perfectly planned world, is it? There are always contingencies, and indeed hands are forced. But that doesn't make my counter-argument any less valid -- and it doesn't erase where the (changed) WCs eventually took place. Innsbruck is the Official 1976 Winter Host even though it was awarded to Denver initially. So the record books name them the 2nd Innsbruck Games -- not the Oh-what-could've-been-Denver I-games-but-given-to-Innsbruck-instead-Games, are they?
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Old June 15th, 2008, 05:34 AM   #3520
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they'll probab;y gert in 2026.
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