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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old June 18th, 2008, 08:17 AM   #3561
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its bidding for 2018 and 2022
but it's probably too small and too far
though it'd definitely host a great tournament
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Old June 18th, 2008, 11:40 AM   #3562
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im sure they'll get it in the future, but not before the USA 2nd WC and a China WC
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Old June 19th, 2008, 05:50 AM   #3563
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why doesn't Australia host a tournament?
Don't have the infrastructure or the population to support a bid as effectively as other nations (USA, China, England, Spain, etc.)

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im sure they'll get it in the future, but not before the USA 2nd WC and a China WC
Depends how long into the future you go... If you view things very simply, say 2018 goes to a European nation, and assume that UEFA will continue to flex it's muscles and have each third tournament...

2018 Europe
2022 Australia bidding against USA, China, Mexico. Assume USA wins, then...
2026 Australia bidding against China, Argentina, Colombia, Egypt, assume China wins...
2030 Europe
2034 Australia can't bid due to Chinese (same Federation) hosting in 2026, assume an African nation gets hosting rights...
2038 Australia bidding against Mexico, Japan, Argentina, Colombia, etc.
2042 Europe.
2046 etc.

Some may think that every third tournament going to Europe is a farce, but it's the reality of the competition, and of the power structure within the world game. This, of course, could all change over the next couple of decades.

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Old June 20th, 2008, 12:44 AM   #3564
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It's not that FIFA is going to take a political stand or try to change a political system; it is just to be aware of the type of gov't it will be dealing with for seven+ years in giving its most prized tournament to a particular country, and to see to it that the initial terms of the awarding ofthe prize ARE satisfactorily carried out. And that includes free access to citizens AND press of all FIFA members countries, including those that certain countries deem 'unfriendly' (i.e., the great number of Arab nations' non-acceptance of Israel).
Precisely. This is the obstacle why FIFA won't choose the USA. Their govt gives a shit about football and treats everyone who travelling there like a criminal.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 02:29 AM   #3565
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Precisely. This is the obstacle why FIFA won't choose the USA. Their govt gives a shit about football and treats everyone who travelling there like a criminal.
they dont treat everyone there like a criminal, and i know that for a fact
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Old June 20th, 2008, 04:32 AM   #3566
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australia deserves 2022. unfortunately it probably wont get them
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Old June 20th, 2008, 05:16 AM   #3567
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Australia does not deserve it any more than China or Russia.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 08:20 AM   #3568
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australia deserves 2022. unfortunately it probably wont get them
It's a lovely place to live, a wonderful place to visit, but I don't see how it 'deserves' the world cup.

In stadium terms it hasn't the venues.
In footballing terms it hasn't the quality, history or ranking.
In cultural terms the game is the third or fourth most popular sport in the country.
In ease of access it's about as far away from the majority of the world's travelling fans as one can get.
In population terms it's quite small.

Most bidders will face similar problems in one or two of these, but not in all of them.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 10:13 AM   #3569
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Precisely. This is the obstacle why FIFA won't choose the USA. Their govt gives a shit about football and treats everyone who travelling there like a criminal.
That was pretty closed minded since you seem to be one of those people from over seas who thinks they know everything about the USA and thinks your better then us.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 06:00 AM   #3570
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The stadium in China

Beijing Olympic Stadium 91 000


Guangdong Olympic Stadium 80 012


Shanghai Stadium 80 000


Shenyang Sports Center 70 000


Nanjing Olympic Sports Center 60 000


Tianjin Olympic Sports Center 60 000


Wuhan Stadium 60 000


Chonqing Olympic Sports Centre 58 680


Changsha Helong Stadium 55 000


Hong Kong Stadium 40 000
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Old June 21st, 2008, 06:40 AM   #3571
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Precisely. This is the obstacle why FIFA won't choose the USA. Their govt gives a shit about football and treats everyone who travelling there like a criminal.
You must be off your ritilan today!
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Old June 21st, 2008, 01:25 PM   #3572
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China has great stadia. It could also host a WC...
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Old June 21st, 2008, 03:25 PM   #3573
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That was pretty closed minded since you seem to be one of those people from over seas who thinks they know everything about the USA and thinks your better then us.
I know more about it than you who seem to ignore some basic facts. Entering the USA is neither free nor easy. US authorities collect biometrics of everyone who's entering the USA. Such a procedure is usually exercised on criminals only.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 04:19 PM   #3574
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The stadium in China

Beijing Olympic Stadium 91 000


Guangdong Olympic Stadium 80 012


Shanghai Stadium 80 000


Shenyang Sports Center 70 000


Nanjing Olympic Sports Center 60 000


Tianjin Olympic Sports Center 60 000


Wuhan Stadium 60 000


Chonqing Olympic Sports Centre 58 680


Changsha Helong Stadium 55 000


Hong Kong Stadium 40 000
Except Hong Kong Stadium, Mainland China stadiums all have running tracks. But this can be covered by turing some of them into football specific stadiums or enlarging some 30,000+ stadias with no tracks. Here are some of China's football specific stadiums with 30K+ capacity.

Name of stadium : Teda stadium
City : Tianjin
Year built : 2004
Capacity : 36,390

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Name of stadium : Hongkou stadium
City : Shanghai
Year built : 1999
Capacity : 35,000

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Name of stadium : Sichuan Longquanyi Stadium
City : Chengdu
Year built : 2004
Capacity : 30,800

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I assume, for FIFA, China is so attractive in that it has the largest population and the fastest growing economy in the world, football is the most popular ball sport in there and has the most favorable time zone for Asian football fans who are main viewing group of World Cup.

But as far as 2018 bids are concerned, I assume England is the most favorite in that it is the origin country of football, has the best association football stadium infrastructure together with Germany and hasn't hosted a second WC for over half a century since 1966.

Of course for 2022, China is the most likely candidate IMO. After that, I don't know.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 04:54 PM   #3575
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Except Hong Kong Stadium, Mainland China stadiums all have running tracks. But this can be covered by turing some of them into football specific stadiums or enlarging some 30,000+ stadias with no tracks. Here are some of China's football specific stadiums with 30K+ capacity.

Name of stadium : Teda stadium
City : Tianjin
Year built : 2004
Capacity : 36,390

image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


Name of stadium : Hongkou stadium
City : Shanghai
Year built : 1999
Capacity : 35,000

image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


Name of stadium : Sichuan Longquanyi Stadium
City : Chengdu
Year built : 2004
Capacity : 30,800

image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


image hosted on flickr


I assume, for FIFA, China is so attractive in that it has the largest population and the fastest growing economy in the world, football is the most popular ball sport in there and has the most favorable time zone for Asian football fans who are main viewing group of World Cup.

But as far as 2018 bids are concerned, I assume England is the most favorite in that it is the origin country of football, has the best association football stadium infrastructure together with Germany and hasn't hosted a second WC for over half a century since 1966.

Of course for 2022, China is the most likely candidate IMO. After that, I don't know.
other professional soccer stadium in China.They can also expand.

Shanghai Jinshan stadium


Tianjin Songjiang stadium


In China, the Government wants to implement a project, it is very easy.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 05:09 PM   #3576
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other professional soccer stadium in China.They can also expand.

Shanghai Jinshan stadium


Tianjin Songjiang stadium


In China, the Government wants to implement a project, it is very easy.
sativ, can we have a bit detailed information about each stadium if you don't mind?

- Club using the stadium
- Year built
- Capacity
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Old June 21st, 2008, 05:35 PM   #3577
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Jinshan stadium built in 2007, capacity of 30,000 people, ShanghaiEastaisa is now the home club.

Songjiang stadium capacity of 20,000 people, it will be the club's home in Tianjintuanbonewcity.But I do not know when it can be completed.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 06:02 PM   #3578
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Xinjiang stadium built in 2004, capacity of 54,000 people, XinjiangSportsLottery is now the home club.



Hohhot stadium built in 2007,capacity of 60,000 people,there is no club to use.


Hefei stadium built in 2006,capacity of 60,000 people,there is no club to use.


Guangzhou University city stadium built in 2007,capacity of 50,000 people,there is no club to use.


Dalian stadium has started construction in 2007,capacity of 80,000 people,DalianHaichang will be the home club.Sorry, I did not find the relevant picture.

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Old June 21st, 2008, 07:53 PM   #3579
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1.I do not think the athletics track would seriously affect the World Cup.











2.China wants to run the World Cup, the Chinese Government is very easy to Couji sufficient funds to the construction of the runway did not track and field stadium.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 10:43 PM   #3580
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Running tracks are awful. They should be abolished. The sport of football/soccer is way beyond track and field in this world, so I don't see why designers bend over backwards to accommodate that stuff.
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