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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old June 27th, 2005, 02:55 PM   #21
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^ I'd go as far as saying AFL is more stop start than rugby union or rugby league. As soon as a player is tackled in an AFL match and cannot release the ball, the umpire has to run in and bounce the ball!! It can become very messy at times. Not to mention when a player marks the ball and takes his time to decide where he is going to take his next kick.

Anyway, back on topic, it could only be a good thing for soccer in Australia to host the WC, but i really don't know if it will happen. I would tend to think there isn't a big enough market for a game which, in reality isn't all that popular here.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old June 28th, 2005, 03:46 PM   #22
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Food for thought:

#Who would have thought 20 years ago that rugby union games would have sold out in Melbourne, Perth, Adelaide and Launceston for a rugby world cup?

#18,000 turned up for 1/4 final of the first rugger world cup in 1987 in Sydney. The Final of the 2003 world drew a sell out 84,000, the highest tv ratings in Oz TV history for anything.

#highest tv ratings on Oz tv in 2002 were the soccer World Cup.

#Oz has hosted 2 World Youth soccer championships. The last time in 1993.

With money, promotion and the right political will it can happen. Just as it has for rugby union. I get the feeling that soccer has finally got its act together. Who knows the soccer people might even be able to buy out AFL and NRL anyhow and tell 'em to take a siesta on them!

The word is the 2011 Asian Nations is coming down under. Confed Cup and World Club Champs are earmarked as well.

Maybe not in 2018 as I have a feeling China or America might get it. But after that why the heck not?

Where there is a will there is a way.
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Old June 29th, 2005, 10:53 PM   #23
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The Dutch Footbal Comisarry wants to bring the WC in 2018 to the Netherlands.....
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Old June 30th, 2005, 01:28 AM   #24
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The Dutch Footbal Comisarry wants to bring the WC in 2018 to the Netherlands.....
Unless they go back on there being no more co hosted events wouldnt stadiums be a bit of a problem? You've only got two 40k plus stadiums right now afterall.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 01:41 AM   #25
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Australian Stadiums for a possible WC

MCG,Melbourne (100,000)



Telstra Dome,Melbourne (55,000)


Telstra Stadium,Sydney (83,500)



Sydney Football Stadium,Sydney (43,000)



Suncorp Stadium,Brisbane (53,000)



Canberra Stadium,Canberra (27,000-Upgrade to 40,000)



Energy Australia Stadium,Newcastle (30,000-Upgrade to 40,000)
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Old July 1st, 2005, 04:48 AM   #26
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Bewdiful.

In the normal world. We should get the World Cup. That is of course if FIFA is supposedly 'good for the game'.

They will build new 50,000 plus stadiums in Adelaide and Perth in the next 10 or so years also.

I think FIFA has rules stipulate that you need 10 40,000 seat stadiums minimum. That rules out most of our potential competition.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 12:11 PM   #27
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Not many people down our way are intrested in soccer...
Not true. Soccer is the Most popular sport for boys, whilst netball for girls. Overall Soccer is the second most popular sport for children after swimming. (source: http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/0/57e1c764bfa85942ca256f7200832fbc?OpenDocument )

These children would be old enough by the time the World Cup comes to us (2018), and hopefully they will qualify for it!
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Old July 1st, 2005, 12:51 PM   #28
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australian stadiums are superb..............
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Old July 1st, 2005, 01:31 PM   #29
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Subiaco. (capacity: 42 922)


Members Equity Stadium (Perth) is a soccer stadium. Its capacity is currently around 18,000 but there are plans to eventually upgrade it to 35,000+.

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Old July 1st, 2005, 01:55 PM   #30
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Bewdiful.

In the normal world. We should get the World Cup. That is of course if FIFA is supposedly 'good for the game'.

They will build new 50,000 plus stadiums in Adelaide and Perth in the next 10 or so years also.

I think FIFA has rules stipulate that you need 10 40,000 seat stadiums minimum. That rules out most of our potential competition.
Except as I stated England, Brazil, Spain and China. WC's being "for the good of the game" also doesnt mean they should only be used as an excuse to rebuild stadia and promote soccer in countrys where its not a major sport but also to re energize the game where it is already popular. Look at Euro 96 in the England for example which played a big part in the current mega popularity of soccer here.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 02:54 PM   #31
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MoreOrLess, what you say is true and I am sure we all agree 100 percent that those nations should host the tournament from time to time. But surely one day even if it is not 2018, 2022 or 2042... it would be beneficial for the sport of football to come down under.

At least in Australia, unlike a Japan we can actually get the stadiums to make profits every year to pay for them so it won't be just money down the pan with us. And the sport would get a little nudge along too.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 02:59 PM   #32
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Not true. Soccer is the Most popular sport for boys, whilst netball for girls. Overall Soccer is the second most popular sport for children after swimming. (source: http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]/0/57e1c764bfa85942ca256f7200832fbc?OpenDocument )

These children would be old enough by the time the World Cup comes to us (2018), and hopefully they will qualify for it!
True. i read in paper once the AFL is scraed because more than 50% of young sports players play soccer as opposed to aussie rules.
This is why they have sent out AFL players to schools to get kids intrested in AFL.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 03:14 PM   #33
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I'm not sure how well the MCG would be suited for a soccer match. It seems like the distance between stands and the pitch would be huge. Still, with a few upgrades Australia has the capacity to host a World Cup. Perhaps New Zealand could host a few games?
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Old July 1st, 2005, 05:28 PM   #34
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The MCG is actually excellent for soccer. The ultimate multi-purpose stadium really.

On the ground level it is not as far from the action as a lot of European stadiums with running tracks, or even River Plate stadium in Buenos Aires. To enable the MCG to fit in a running track for next years Commonwealth games, they have had to 'cut out' a section of grandstand to allow for the track.

On the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th tiers it is very steep and quite elevated above the action so you get excellent sightlines.

I have seen 3 internationals(Oz v. Iran: 97, Oz v. Brazil: 99, Oz v. Italy: 2000 Olympics) held there and it was fantastic, right up there with San Siro for atmosphere plus attendances are generally 20,000 greater than anywhere you get in Europe. So the noise generated is deafening especially when Oz have scored.
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Old July 1st, 2005, 07:13 PM   #35
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I'd imagine their would be a rather hot debate over who got the final if Oz did host a World Cup, the MCG or the Telstra stadium? The Telstra is more suited to soccer but they have already had the Oylimpics and the Rugby World Cup final.
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Old July 2nd, 2005, 09:21 AM   #36
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I'd imagine their would be a rather hot debate over who got the final if Oz did host a World Cup, the MCG or the Telstra stadium? The Telstra is more suited to soccer but they have already had the Oylimpics and the Rugby World Cup final.
MCG no doubt. Largest Stadium. Melbourne has largest Ethnic population and thus they will probarbly get a better attendence.
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Old July 2nd, 2005, 04:52 PM   #37
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Telstra Stadium will get it.Its a far superior viewing venue than the MCG and if its up to capacity,then if the NSW government want it bad enough,then they will reinstall the temporary seating and up capacity back up to 112,000 for the World Cup.
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Telstra Stadium will get it.Its a far superior viewing venue than the MCG and if its up to capacity,then if the NSW government want it bad enough,then they will reinstall the temporary seating and up capacity back up to 112,000 for the World Cup.
They wouldnt be very good seats if it was in the same configuration as the oylimpics though plus they wouldnt be covered. Coudlnt the MCG be reworked aswell(either temporary or permanently) by pushing forward the stands in the same way as the Telstra dome to give a rectangular pitch aswell? The stands seem steep enough to do that plus I'd expect it would give around a 110-20k capacity.
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Old July 2nd, 2005, 05:20 PM   #39
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They wouldnt be very good seats if it was in the same configuration as the oylimpics though plus they wouldnt be covered. .
I agree..they wont be great seats..Thats why they were always temp seats at the Olympics and were always going to be removed.
The MCG has this problem currently for any rectangular sports event.


As I said,it will come down to who the most desperate state is and whos willing to fork out the most $$$$ for it.
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Old July 3rd, 2005, 06:42 AM   #40
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Just for the record, Telstra Stadium got the nod for the big World Cup qualifier in November over Melbourne and Brisbane simply because the MCG did not want the match. The MCG will resemble a quarry at that time due to works for next years Commie Games and preparations for the Boxing day test match. The sightlines of Homebush v. MCG are debatable as to which is better. Generally speaking the vast majority of Melbourne's spectators ie. 2nd deck and up are above the action. While at Homebush they are on the ground floor. Personal preference really. If you like to sit above the field, its Melb, if you like to be relatively level and close to the action, Syd.

If a final was going to be played anywhere it would be the MCG, no argument at all. It holds 20,000 more people and is smack bang in the middle of Melbourne, while Homebush is out in the boondocks of outer Sydney. You need a passport to go that far west. You get a stronger concentration of 'football' fans in Melbourne that can pick up and go to a match easily. In Sydney you need to plan your day out. A lot of this simply comes down to historical planning of the relative cities as well which is not the fault of the Homebush setup at all.

Arguably, they should have demolished the SCG and built that as the Olympic Stadium and it would have been a better situation and been far more useful as a venue to Sydney folk. Melbourne had a 'Homebush scenario' with VFL Park in Mulgrave 25 kms SE of the city in suburbia. Suffice to say, 30 years after it was built, it is now a new subdivision for housing. It didn't really work.
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