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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old April 15th, 2006, 07:37 PM   #381
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I know.

Btw; I don't see when Australia coulnd't host it, why China couldn't. They've got the capacity. All modern stadiums. Politics and sports shouldn't be woven but kept apart.

Beijing - Olympic - 90.000
Guangzhou - Guandong Stadium - 80.000
Shanghai - Shanghai Stadium - 80.000
Beijing - Workers Stadium - 72.000
Shenyang - Wulihe Stadium - 65.000
Wuhan - Wuhan Stadium - 60.000
Guangzhou - Tianhe Stadium - 60.000
Qingdao - Yizhong Center - 60.000
Chonqing - Olympic Sports Centre - 57.000
Dalian - People's Stadium - 55.000
Shenyang - Shenyang Sports Center - 55.000
Changsha - Helong Stadium - 55.000
Xi'an - Jiaodaruisun Stadium - 51.000
Hangzhou - Huanglong Stadium - 48.000
Jinan - Shandong Stadium - 44.000
Qingdao - Hongchen Stadium - 40.000
Chengdu - Sichuan Stadium - 40.000
Shaoguan - Shaoguan City Stadium - 40.000
Beijing - Olympic Sports Centre - 40.000
Kunming - Tuodong Stadium - 40.000
Lanzhou - Qilihe Stadium - 40.000
Chengdu - Chengdu Sports Center - 40.000
Hong Kong - Hong Kong Stadium - 40.000

Yeah, I like lists. Sue me.
Hmm....except Hong Kong stadium, I think ALL these stadia has running tracks
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Old April 15th, 2006, 08:55 PM   #382
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I think Blatter only wants Brazil to sweat it out and work for it and not simply sit around, knowing that the 2014 tournament will just be given to them.

The tournament absorbs so much of a countries resources that I really think Brazil should look to co-host with a local neighbour themselves, to spread and manage the resources a bit.

Personally, I think it would be a good idea if Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay put in a combined joint bid for South America. This is possible, given the set-up of the CSF group stages, Brazil and Argentina always qualify, mostly by finishing 1st and 2nd in the top 4 or 5 qualifying slots, so co-hosting will not be a problem in this instance.

Uruguay, could also be an automatic qualifier as host, but not necessarily seeded, given their form of late.

I think this would make a memorable world cup- the GREATS of South America if you like, having each won it at least twice. Also, it will be decades before the tournament returns to SA giving another one of those countries the chance to host.

I don't think an Argentina/Chile bid would be enough either, because a tournament of that size (double the participants since Argentina 1978) would cripple their respective economies.

Argentina could provide 4 or 5 good stadia in a GREATS of SA bid. The Ciudad de la Plata, built in 2003 is a wonderful stadium, they would just need new stadiums in Corduba, Rosario and Mar del Plata.

Uruguay could build a new stadium in Montevideo, plus one more. This would lessen the strain on Brazil who would only need to provide 7 or 8 good quality stadia instead of 10 or 12.

Anybody agree?
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Old April 15th, 2006, 09:33 PM   #383
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I dont think we'll see co-hosts anytime soon.
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Old April 15th, 2006, 10:45 PM   #384
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Old April 15th, 2006, 11:43 PM   #385
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Old April 15th, 2006, 11:50 PM   #386
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Australia won't host the world cup, there is even a thread about this- utterly pointless. It may be progressive, influential and have (limited) resources, but as Lost Boy has pointed out, there are too few people living there. Come on, can you anyone honestly see a 40,000+ going up in Alice Springs???
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Old April 15th, 2006, 11:54 PM   #387
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and my vote is England, possibly incorporating Hamden Park and Millenium Stadium to give it national backing and importance.

p.s. Greece!!??
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Old April 16th, 2006, 12:09 AM   #388
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No. I and many others will be against it, if it is a joint British Bid. We do not need the Celts watering down a chance to show of England; besides they would not want to be a part of it.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 12:16 AM   #389
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Greece doesn't have a chance, can't even host a EC. UK would be good, better then England because of more and bigger stadiums.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 01:12 AM   #390
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It would be bloody stupid. Most joint bids (being discouraged anyway by FIFA) are even sided (an equal participation in both countries), that could not happen in any UK Bid.

England would provide 10-12 Stadia, Scotland and Wales one, and for that massive contribution both would get an automatic qualification place in a UK Bid. Can you not appreciate how fantastically stupid that would be?
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Old April 16th, 2006, 02:49 AM   #391
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Greece doesn't have a chance, can't even host a EC. UK would be good, better then England because of more and bigger stadiums.
I only put Greece cos i couldn't think of any other european country, And there would NEVER be a UK bid and it shouldn't be allowed, only England from the Uk can host it IMO.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 03:03 AM   #392
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Australia won't host the world cup, there is even a thread about this- utterly pointless. It may be progressive, influential and have (limited) resources, but as Lost Boy has pointed out, there are too few people living there. Come on, can you anyone honestly see a 40,000+ going up in Alice Springs???
Ignorance at it's best . . . Alice Springs???

If you're worried about attendances then let me put your mind to rest...

2000 Olympics - 8mil people attended (best ever apparently)
2006 Commie Games - 1.8mil attended (double the previous best Manchester)
2003 Rugby WC - Cricket WC etc...etc...

Come on now, to argue stadiums is one thing but population?

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I dont want the world cup to be seen as a another 'thing' for the aussies to host.
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Loads of events that Australia host these days are full of people saying 'it just proves we can host an amazing tournament'....and you just think Enough already! There is too much emphasis on it being a sporting 'event' for Australia to host, and trying to show to people how many great 'events' can be held there, instead of just getting on with the thing and and concentrating on the sport itself!
It seems as though being a sports loving nation is seen a bad thing to some people. Well I ain't gonna apologize for that.

btw . . . here's a news flash. The World Cup is an "event". Do you think nations would bid so hard if these "events" didn't promote their countries internationally, encourage tourism or any other form of economic gain? If it was just for the love of the game then why do most countries wait for these events to build their stadias?
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Old April 16th, 2006, 04:10 AM   #393
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The average attendance at the Australian A-League is higher than the premier national leagues of
-Portugal
-Belgium
-Russia
-Sweden
-Korea
-Norway
-Denmark
-China
-Romania
-Greece
-Switzerland
and most Euro Leagues except obviously the big ones(England,Spain,Italy,Germany etc)
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Old April 16th, 2006, 04:14 AM   #394
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Australia WILL host the soccer World Cup either sooner or later. That is a given.

These Pommies other Johnny Foreigners are doing their most to undermine it for their selfish reasons but if we have to we would move a mountain to make it happen.

The most pathetic excuse is that cricket grounds are not good at hosting soccer matches. Just tell that to anyone who went to the World Cup qualifier in 1997. That single night was the tipping point in the history of Australian soccer where it kicked the door down into the mainstream sports universe. It could not go back after that. It touched simply too many people. Just like the Titanic disaster.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 04:25 AM   #395
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The World Cup is not something Australia (or any other nation) has a 'right' to host.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 04:26 AM   #396
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Australia WILL host the soccer World Cup either sooner or later. That is a given.

These Pommies other Johnny Foreigners are doing their most to undermine it for their selfish reasons but if we have to we would move a mountain to make it happen.
"doing our most to undermine it for selfish reasons", like it's a conspiracy or something!? this isn't braveheart - you're not oppressed - if your bid isn't good enough, your bid isn't good enough. stop being a self-pitying, nationalist knob.

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The most pathetic excuse is that cricket grounds are not good at hosting soccer matches. Just tell that to anyone who went to the World Cup qualifier in 1997. That single night was the tipping point in the history of Australian soccer where it kicked the door down into the mainstream sports universe. It could not go back after that. It touched simply too many people. Just like the Titanic disaster.
yeah, just like the titanic disaster

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Old April 16th, 2006, 04:45 AM   #397
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yeah, just like the titanic disaster
You have no idea . . . That night was devastating especially when leading 2-0 and in a seemingly comfortable position only to have conceded 2 late goals and miss out on the away goals rule.

It still burns today . . . Venebles should have shut up shop at 2-0
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Old April 16th, 2006, 04:59 AM   #398
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maybe greece-turkey joint bid. greece is in europe and turkey half in europe half in asian minor. it would great to see these 2 rivals host something together. 6 stadiums in each country would be perfect!!!
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Old April 16th, 2006, 05:17 AM   #399
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You have no idea . . . That night was devastating especially when leading 2-0 and in a seemingly comfortable position only to have conceded 2 late goals and miss out on the away goals rule.

It still burns today . . . Venebles should have shut up shop at 2-0
i have no idea!? welcome to competitive international football: from alf ramsey subbing charlton and all after being 2-0 up to west germany in the 1970 world cup quarter-final (so they'd be fresh for the semis), only to then go on to lose the game 3-2 aet, to the hand of god in '86, the germans cruelly winning on penalties in 1990 (waddle hit the post in extra time) and 1996 (macca hit the post in extra time, gazza should've sealed it), to the argies doing the same in '98 (campbell's goal was never a shearer foul), and sven not going at the brazilians in 2002 and the portuguese in 2004 (again, campbell's goal was never a foul), when we could have really given both of them a good hiding. that's football. deal with it.

just don't tell me i have no idea! i'm english - i've suffered!

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Old April 16th, 2006, 05:44 AM   #400
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just don't tell me i have no idea! i'm english - i've suffered!
lol . . . fair enough

What I meant was that many people disregard football/soccer importance in this country because atm it's regarded as the 4th football code but what they don't know is the huge latent supporter base it has. For many decades Soccer Australia have systematically decimated the national league with their petty infighting and incompetence which lead to the formation of the new FFA and the A-League last year with huge success. Yet the one thing that has stood the test of time has been the popularity of the national team. The last six games at the MCG alone haven't yielded a crowd less that 70k and the Greece game in May sold out in two hours.

As I said . . . losing to Iran still burns today.
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