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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old August 29th, 2008, 10:07 PM   #4021
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ok..

so is this raped up?

and fifa world cup 2022 gos to _____ !!

u tail me
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Old August 30th, 2008, 08:30 AM   #4022
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England 2018 is almost fixed (80%- last World Cup in 1966, all other top football nations in Europe hosted a WC - Germany 1974/2006, Italy 1990, France 1998, Spain 1982.)
2022 will be Asia's or Australia's turn, the american continent will be the host of the 2014 World Cup.
2026 - Africa, 2030 Europe, 2034 America
correction, South America will be holding the tournament

get the idea that north and south america are the same out of your head
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Old August 30th, 2008, 10:21 AM   #4023
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I dont know why someone deleted thespecialone's post, but ill repost it personally:


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Uh-huh. You mean the SOUTH American continent. North and South are 2 DIFFERENT, detached continents last I looked. Asia last hosted in 2002.

I'd like to buy your slightly broken crystal ball, GEwinnem, but please don't be too incontinent.
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massp Europe cant get the 2026 WC as each confederation has to wait 2 WC's before bidding again. 2030 is the earliest and UEFA country can host a WC, but then its got strong competition from Argenina-Uruguay.
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Old August 30th, 2008, 11:17 AM   #4024
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correction, South America will be holding the tournament

get the idea that north and south america are the same out of your head
Of the 5 rings of the Olympics logo, which one is the north american one and which one is the south american one?
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Old August 31st, 2008, 12:43 AM   #4025
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Of the 5 rings of the Olympics logo, which one is the north american one and which one is the south american one?
just because they stand for the same thing doesnt mean anything. its outdated and only counts as two continents to keep the 5 ring design and because europeans seem to insist that they are the same. News flash: North and South America are nothing alike, hence they are TWO different continents. I assume you know your geography and that north and south america are NOT the same by any means and anyone with a brain, including the IOC, should see it as such.
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Old August 31st, 2008, 03:27 AM   #4026
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Of the 5 rings of the Olympics logo, which one is the north american one and which one is the south american one?
The five rings representing "5" continents were good when there was no internet and there weren't too many smart-ass*s around. But since the arrival of both, the IOC is:

1. too lazy and too cheap to change the logo (it would mean changing all the stationery, etc.); and

2. It is now explained as the 5 colors, one of which is found in every flag of every member NOC's country.

Good one, IOC!!

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Old August 31st, 2008, 04:14 AM   #4027
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correction, South America will be holding the tournament

get the idea that north and south america are the same out of your head
For the record, whilst I understand the clear difference between North and South America, it's important at this juncture to note that FIFA itself refers to the pair as 'The Americas', and have done since back when they awarded the finals to USA in 94. It was all about how the rotation between Europe and The Americas continues... Japan/Korea was talked about as the first finals outside Europe and the Americas.
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Old August 31st, 2008, 08:40 AM   #4028
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For the record, whilst I understand the clear difference between North and South America, it's important at this juncture to note that FIFA itself refers to the pair as 'The Americas', and have done since back when they awarded the finals to USA in 94. It was all about how the rotation between Europe and The Americas continues... Japan/Korea was talked about as the first finals outside Europe and the Americas.
Negative.

FIFA doesn't see continents, they see confederations. North America has CONCACAF, South America has COMNEBOL, and Asia + Australia have the AFC.

Their rotation is between confederations, not continents.
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Old August 31st, 2008, 08:44 AM   #4029
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2018: England (they have to be the clear choice)

2022: United States

2026: Australia/Spain

While some of these projections are almost 20 years away, they seem like the most obvious in my mind. I really don't believe China will see the World Cup before the United States sees it again, or Australia or Spain. FIFA has followed the pattern where the World Cup s played in Europe every other time, the exception being the upcoming 2010 and 2014 cup.
The new rotation does not allow Spain to bid for the 2026 World Cup in the case of England 2018. The new rotation system limits a confederation to 1 WC every 3 WC, so after a successful bid, a confederation can't bid for the next two WCs.
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Old August 31st, 2008, 09:35 AM   #4030
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Hngcm is absolutely right on both points.
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Old August 31st, 2008, 12:04 PM   #4031
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Both hngcm and Benjuk are correct. North and South America are two different continents with two separate confederations, but FIFA does tend to to group them together. For decades the cup would be played once or twice in Europe before going to the Americas:

1930 Uruguay Americas
1934 Italy Europe
1938 France Europe
1950 Brazil Americas
1954 Switzerland Europe
1958 Sweden Europe
1962 Chile Americas
1966 England Europe
1970 Mexico Americas
1974 Germany Europe
1978 Argentina Americas
1982 Spain Europe
1986 Mexico Americas (originally supposed to be Colombia)
1990 Italy Europe
1994 USA Americas
1998 France Europe
2002 Japan-Korea Asia
2006 Germany Europe
2010 South Africa Africa
2014 Brazil Americas
2018 TBD Europe

So in the past the two confederations have been grouped together by FIFA for WC hosting purposes. With only two countries each, and four combined, that can really host the event (Argentina, Mexico and even Brazil need significant stadium and infrastructure upgrades when compared to Europe and Japan), FIFA will probably continue to group the confederations together often in the future.

The relative close geographic proximity of each of the countries, and more importantly the fact that they all share similar time zones for television viewing purposes is another reason they are grouped together.
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Old August 31st, 2008, 12:09 PM   #4032
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AUSTRALIA.
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Old September 1st, 2008, 09:52 AM   #4033
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AUSTRALIA.
So long as Lowy doesn't insist on going all or nothing for 2018. If he does we'll miss out to Europe, and someone else will sneak in and grab 2022... Leaving us hoping for 2026.

Don't know which, but I'll guarentee, 100% for certain, that the U.S. will get either 2022 or 2026.
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Old September 1st, 2008, 10:44 AM   #4034
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Basing the prediction only on this list, heres a possibility:

1994 USA Americas
1998 France Europe
2002 Japan-Korea Asia
2006 Germany Europe
2010 South Africa Africa
2014 Brazil Americas
2018 TBD Europe

2022 USA Americas
2026 TBD Asia
2030 Argentina Uruguay Americas
2034 TBD Europe

I doubt Lowey would insist only for 2018 Im assuming hes very intelligent, but who knows.
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Old September 1st, 2008, 02:24 PM   #4035
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Yes it would be extremely dumb for Lowey to go all out to try & get the 2018 WC. We have next to no chance in getting that one.
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Old September 2nd, 2008, 10:57 PM   #4036
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u guys have gone a long way in analising the very core of hosting previleges, heck,u even poit out some ideas that i thick fifa dident even notice, and yet stil u guys didnt agrred on aniting yet... but on what has been discuset... it sems so...

2018 england
2022 usa
2026 australia/china
2030 argentina&uruguay or europe,
2034 eurpe

is this it?
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 02:25 AM   #4037
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u guys have gone a long way in analising the very core of hosting previleges, heck,u even poit out some ideas that i thick fifa dident even notice, and yet stil u guys didnt agrred on aniting yet... but on what has been discuset... it sems so...

2018 england
2022 usa
2026 australia/china
2030 argentina&uruguay or europe,
2034 eurpe

is this it?
pretty much
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 07:19 AM   #4038
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u guys have gone a long way in analising the very core of hosting previleges, heck,u even poit out some ideas that i thick fifa dident even notice, and yet stil u guys didnt agrred on aniting yet... but on what has been discuset... it sems so...

2018 england
2022 usa
2026 australia/china
2030 argentina&uruguay or europe,
2034 eurpe

is this it?
toss a coin between 2022 & 2026 - could go either way, USA in 22 or USA in 26. A lot more possibilities for the non-USA finals. We tend to talk Australia up, but to think it's a straight run between Australia and China is a bit over-confident.
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 10:10 AM   #4039
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I had my hopes Adelaide would have a fist class stadium (such as the new Perth Stadium with retractable seating). This isn't going to happen, with AAMI stadium due for a 150 million dollar revamp. I really see it as a poor stadium for football so this will bring Australias chance down. But I guess we should wait and see what the plans for the stadium are. There has been talks of building a roof and a new train line to the stadium in the future, but how 150 mill is going to bring the venue up to standards is questionable.



For the cup that USA is not hosting, apart from China and Australia, what are some other realistic candidates as you see it?

By the way I really hope it doesn't go to China. What a lame event it would be for the traveling fans. I would rather see it back in Japan.
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Old September 3rd, 2008, 02:57 PM   #4040
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By the way I really hope it doesn't go to China. What a lame event it would be for the traveling fans. I would rather see it back in Japan.
all the candidates... usa ,australia ,china, argentina/uruguay r bad candidates for european fans... as the maches would be brodcasted at 3-4 AM so ther is no escape...
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