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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old April 16th, 2006, 06:55 AM   #401
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It would be bloody stupid. Most joint bids (being discouraged anyway by FIFA) are even sided (an equal participation in both countries), that could not happen in any UK Bid.

England would provide 10-12 Stadia, Scotland and Wales one, and for that massive contribution both would get an automatic qualification place in a UK Bid. Can you not appreciate how fantastically stupid that would be?
Do all English people say the word bloody??? Or is that just a stereotype????
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Brazil on track to host 2014 WC
Posted: Saturday April 15, 2006 12:50PM; Updated: Saturday April 15, 2006 12:50PM

SAO PAULO, Brazil (AP) -- The Brazilian Soccer Confederation remains optimistic about the country's chances of hosting the 2014 World Cup despite recent criticism by FIFA president Sepp Blatter.

Blatter told Brazilian media earlier this week Brazil does not have any stadiums in adequate condition to host matches in soccer's showcase.

But Ricardo Teixeira, president of Brazil's confederation, said that can easily change in time for the tournament in 2014. He said Brazil's private sector would be more than capable of helping the country build new stadiums and properly prepare for a World Cup.

"The World Cup is an event that rewards those who want to invest," Teixeira told sports daily Lance on Saturday. "And there's never a shortage of investors interested in soccer in Brazil."

Teixeira said he was not disappointed with Blatter's remarks, and thanked him for his input.

"I'll write a letter to congratulate him," Teixeira said. "What he said served as an alert, not only to me, but to all Brazilians. We need to do our homework and get organized."

Soccer's world governing body rotates the award of the World Cup around its member confederations. With South Africa hosting the event in 2010, South America is in line for 2014.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 11:14 AM   #403
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Oh, okay a Brazilian politician says that everything is working perfectly.

Personally I would not even believe an Australian, American or a British politician and they are borderline honest some of the time.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 11:50 AM   #404
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Old April 16th, 2006, 03:47 PM   #405
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It would be bloody stupid. Most joint bids (being discouraged anyway by FIFA) are even sided (an equal participation in both countries), that could not happen in any UK Bid.

England would provide 10-12 Stadia, Scotland and Wales one, and for that massive contribution both would get an automatic qualification place in a UK Bid. Can you not appreciate how fantastically stupid that would be?
The only way I could see that happening is if those at the top of FIFA deside they want it to and award the WC to us after backstage political maneuvering rather than though a bid process. I could however see an English bid that incorperated a few Welsh/Scottish stadiums without them as actual hosts(maybe altering the draw slightly so they can to play in their own stadiums should they qualify) happening.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 04:03 PM   #406
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Ignorance at it's best . . . Alice Springs???

If you're worried about attendances then let me put your mind to rest...

2000 Olympics - 8mil people attended (best ever apparently)
2006 Commie Games - 1.8mil attended (double the previous best Manchester)
2003 Rugby WC - Cricket WC etc...etc...

Come on now, to argue stadiums is one thing but population?


It seems as though being a sports loving nation is seen a bad thing to some people. Well I ain't gonna apologize for that.

btw . . . here's a news flash. The World Cup is an "event". Do you think nations would bid so hard if these "events" didn't promote their countries internationally, encourage tourism or any other form of economic gain? If it was just for the love of the game then why do most countries wait for these events to build their stadias?

I just don't like the idea of using the tournament to spread the sport in the country that is hosting it, the country that is hosting it should have a history of the sport, a passion and a tradition. tournaments such as USA 94 was a crap tournament as it was used as an 'Advertisement' of the sport to the american people, rather then THE WORLD CUP. this is all nonsense, football is the worlds biggest sport it doesn't need all that 'advertising' the sport is too commercialised already.

About Austrailia, other countries are more deserving in hosting the world cup.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 04:23 PM   #407
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The World Cup is not something Australia (or any other nation) has a 'right' to host.
Nobody is saying that.
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One in twenty Aussies is an officially registered soccer player. They don't really need to "spread" the code in Australia I can assure you of that.

The reason why it is only now gathering strength in Oz is a lot to do with politics both down here and internationally. But we wouldn't expect a Johnny Foreigner to know that.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 05:25 PM   #409
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I just don't like the idea of using the tournament to spread the sport in the country that is hosting it, the country that is hosting it should have a history of the sport, a passion and a tradition. tournaments such as USA 94 was a crap tournament as it was used as an 'Advertisement' of the sport to the american people, rather then THE WORLD CUP. this is all nonsense, football is the worlds biggest sport it doesn't need all that 'advertising' the sport is too commercialised already.

About Austrailia, other countries are more deserving in hosting the world cup.
USA 94 was far from crap
1. highest revenues for FIFA
2. largest crowds...
3. television coverage and other revenues made FIFA very happy
4. 2002 the US teams performance was certainly a positive result.
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If you're worried about attendances then let me put your mind to rest...

2000 Olympics - 8mil people attended (best ever apparently)
2006 Commie Games - 1.8mil attended (double the previous best Manchester)
2003 Rugby WC - Cricket WC etc...etc...

Come on now, to argue stadiums is one thing but population?
FACT- the last 5 world cups not including Germany have been hosted by nations of a population of 58 million plus. This is a massive tournament that requires massive resources. FACT

South Africa (40 million) is the exception to the rule, given that they are the first nation of a soccer-mad continent to be given the chance, as well as providing outstanding facilities.

Don't wish to rain on your parade, but Australia doesn't have the population or resources. You only have 5 cities of over 1 million, I cannot see you financing, providing, managing and maintaining 10 to 12 stadia upto FIFA regulations.

STOP comparing the FIFA World Cup to the Sydney Olympics and the Commonwealth games, these are localised sport events focused around an individual city and are of lesser significance (certainly the commonwealth games come nowhere near).

With regards to Rugby and Cricket, trust you Aussies to bring these ones into an example- no comparison, don't even go there!

Also Australia is 10 hours ahead of GMT, making it impractical for European and US/South American TV network audiances.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 06:24 PM   #411
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Know what? Perhaps the Aussies could host the world cup.
Perhaps Chelsea can fill a 65,000 seater week in week out and surpass Arsenal and Tottenham as the best supported club in London.

Miracles have been known to happen....
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Old April 16th, 2006, 06:25 PM   #412
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It seems like some people seem to think Australia has a right to host the WC becasue it's Australia.

While I support taking the WC to non-traditional footballing powers this should not be a sympathy vote. It should only be because the bid is outstanding.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 06:28 PM   #413
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USA 94 was far from crap
1. highest revenues for FIFA
2. largest crowds...
3. television coverage and other revenues made FIFA very happy
4. 2002 the US teams performance was certainly a positive result.
I think he meant it was a dull tournament. If you need reminding then I suggest you watch a video of the final.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 06:35 PM   #414
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USA 94 was far from crap
1. highest revenues for FIFA
2. largest crowds...
3. television coverage and other revenues made FIFA very happy
4. 2002 the US teams performance was certainly a positive result.
94 was hopeless. Dress it up with any statistics you like, the whole competition had no soul. It was a plastic World Cup and a dismal failure.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 06:55 PM   #415
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Don't wish to rain on your parade, but Australia doesn't have the population or resources. You only have 5 cities of over 1 million, I cannot see you financing, providing, managing and maintaining 10 to 12 stadia upto FIFA regulations.

STOP comparing the FIFA World Cup to the Sydney Olympics and the Commonwealth games, these are localised sport events focused around an individual city and are of lesser significance (certainly the commonwealth games come nowhere near).
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It seems like some people seem to think Australia has a right to host the WC becasue it's Australia.

While I support taking the WC to non-traditional footballing powers this should not be a sympathy vote. It should only be because the bid is outstanding.
It would be better than Brazils is shaping up as
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Old April 16th, 2006, 07:16 PM   #419
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Soon the national teams won't be able to afford the insurance of these players. Also, with the big Eurpoean clubs starting to make noises about wanting their players paid for when they're off playing for their countries, hopefully we'll soon reach a stage where International football is either dead or in the least, an under 25 sport.

The semi-finals of the World Cup is infinitely inferior to the semi-finals of the Champions League, as it is. Why should our top clubs loan out their prize assets for 2 months in the summer for such a second rate competition? International football simply beggars belief and thankfully, won't be around as we know it, in 15 years time.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 07:18 PM   #420
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I think hosting tournaments in "developing football nations" like America, Japan and Korea, has merit, football is a growing sport in Japan, and even though many Americans may still deride it, increasingly their children now play it, and MLS is in a situation where clubs are even getting football specific stadia being built for them with capacities at 20 - 30,000, unthinkable a few years before the 1994 World Cup, and quite impressive considering just how embedded the traditional three team sports are there, and the xenophobia in both Japan and the USA.

That said, although its nice to spread the word, its not neccessary, its still the world game, and is growing fast in places like China without the World Cup, and the threat to FIFA is the resurgence in wealth and interest of Domestic Football Leagues. What is the benefit of spreading the World Cup to Australia, what is to be benefitted from the new pastures there, - a lousy 20 million people - where the sports of AFL, Rugby Union, Rugby League, Cricket and Misplaced Bragging, are not going to be replaced by Football anytime soon. In return we get, inappropiate cricket stadia and others which will surely never be used again, a lack of interest by the hosting citizens, anti-social hours for the rest of us and the World Cup is reduced to nothing more than another notch in the bed post of the Lucky Country.

I just don't see what Australia can possibly bring to the World Cup.
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