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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old December 19th, 2008, 10:10 PM   #4221
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No way mexico will host another worldcup in the next 20 years..
even if we have nice stadiums.. it would not be fair for other countries that have the capacity and never had it before..
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Old December 20th, 2008, 03:56 PM   #4222
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Just a quick post to note that FIFA have confirmed that 2018 & 2022 bidding will take place at the same time. Applications to be sent out in Jan 2009, vote to be made in Dec 2010.

The race begins...
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Old December 20th, 2008, 07:11 PM   #4223
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"Should a 2018 bid fail it now means countries can enter the 2022 vote straight after, as long as 2018's hosts are not from the same continent."
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Old December 21st, 2008, 03:56 PM   #4224
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My predictions :

2018 - England (well it seems obvious to me now, there's a lot of buzz on this bid)

2022 - catfight between the U.S and Australia , for me Australia deserves it because has never hosted a WC and the US hosted in 1994 , but we know that FIFA would be very pleased with another WC in America , for financial reasons. But my vote goes to Australia.
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Old December 21st, 2008, 06:24 PM   #4225
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Madaíl esteve reunido com Villar
SEGUNDO AVANÇA O JORNAL ESPANHOL "MARCA"

O presidente da Federação Portuguesa de Futebol, Gilberto Madaíl, esteve reunido na semana passada com o homólogo espanhol, Miguel Angel Villar, para preparar uma candidatura conjunta ao Mundial'2018, noticia na sua edição de sábado o diário desportivo espanhol "Marca".

De acordo com o jornal de Madrid, a Espanha seria a líder do projecto, com oito cidades a acolherem encontros, o dobro do que Portugal teria.

O encontro de abertura da prova seria em Lisboa e a final em Madrid, revela a "Marca", que diz ainda que não foi falada uma possível candidatura para 2022.

O presidente da FIFA, Joseph Blatter, revelou, entretanto, que o organismo anunciará, em conjunto, no final de 2010, quais os países organizadores dos Mundiais de 2018 e 2022.

Blatter voltou a reforçar que a Inglaterra seria uma "forte candidata", mas referiu outras possibilidades "muito fortes", como a Espanha. A nível europeu, Blatter falou ainda de uma candidatura conjunta entre a Bélgica e a Holanda ou da possibilidade de a Rússia avançar.

Japão, China, Qatar, México, Estados Unidos, Austrália e Canadá foram outros dos países dos quais o presidente da FIFA falou como potenciais interessados em avançar com propostas.

Data: Sabado, 20 Dezembro de 2008 - 15:54

Source: http://www.record.pt/noticia.asp?id=816677&idCanal=488

This means that, according to the Spanish newspaper Marca, the Portuguese and Spanish FA presidents have met last week to discuss the joint bid for the 2018 FIFA World Cup.

Spain would have 8 cities while Portugal just 4 - yes, they said cities, not stadiums. The opening match would be in Lisbon and the final in Madrid.
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Old December 21st, 2008, 08:07 PM   #4226
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I still think that as long as England is in the race they won't give anybody a chance.
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Old December 21st, 2008, 08:21 PM   #4227
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2018 England, China or Canada.

It seems logically that England has to be a host, they have a good infrastructure. But the problem could be Olympic games and later financial problems because of recesion.

China has at the moment the best sports infrastructure. Money won't be a problem as China is getting a strong economic player.

Perhaps Canada wouldn't be a bad choice. Safe country and they have never organized a big soccer tournment.
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Old December 21st, 2008, 08:22 PM   #4228
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The forth possiblity could be Australia.
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Old December 21st, 2008, 09:12 PM   #4229
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I still think that as long as England is in the race they won't give anybody a chance.
Most likely.

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Old December 21st, 2008, 09:24 PM   #4230
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2018 England, China or Canada.

It seems logically that England has to be a host, they have a good infrastructure. But the problem could be Olympic games and later financial problems because of recesion.

China has at the moment the best sports infrastructure. Money won't be a problem as China is getting a strong economic player.

Perhaps Canada wouldn't be a bad choice. Safe country and they have never organized a big soccer tournment.
I can't see how London 2012 is relevent in practical or financial terms. Unless some delegates think the UK has had enough sporting events, it shouldn't have any effect.
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Old December 21st, 2008, 10:03 PM   #4231
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Australia is capable of hosting great events but I'm not gonna put money on their bid or their chances of winning. Unless FIFA give Townsville Dairy Farmer stadium the thumbs up!
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 01:21 AM   #4232
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2018 England, China or Canada.

It seems logically that England has to be a host, they have a good infrastructure. But the problem could be Olympic games and later financial problems because of recesion.

China has at the moment the best sports infrastructure. Money won't be a problem as China is getting a strong economic player.

Perhaps Canada wouldn't be a bad choice. Safe country and they have never organized a big soccer tournment.
I would think the recession would play into England's hands as they'd be able to host without any particularly huge investment in infrastructure. If you take the existing stadia and the plans that exist for new stadia whether they get the hosting rights or not, there's no need to build white elephant stadiums, or to 'over-extend' existing stadia. Transport is good, accomodation is already there, etc.
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 01:43 AM   #4233
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Australia is capable of hosting great events but I'm not gonna put money on their bid or their chances of winning. Unless FIFA give Townsville Dairy Farmer stadium the thumbs up!
There is room for improvement yes, but i don't think venues would be a telling factor as to why the Australian bid succeeds or not.

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Old December 22nd, 2008, 01:45 AM   #4234
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I would think the recession would play into England's hands as they'd be able to host without any particularly huge investment in infrastructure. If you take the existing stadia and the plans that exist for new stadia whether they get the hosting rights or not, there's no need to build white elephant stadiums, or to 'over-extend' existing stadia. Transport is good, accomodation is already there, etc.
Actually, countries who have low debt or are willing to spend may be more attractive options. The government spending helps drive the economy in a time when private investment would be low.

In that regard, i think FIFA may have a few big spending bids thrown at them. EVen in a time of global recessions.
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 05:35 AM   #4235
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"Should a 2018 bid fail it now means countries can enter the 2022 vote straight after, as long as 2018's hosts are not from the same continent."
I don't really like this idea.

Countries should be able to change their bids after failing for 2018.

Given a couple more years, we can get a lot better bids for 2022.
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 10:48 AM   #4236
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Actually, countries who have low debt or are willing to spend may be more attractive options. The government spending helps drive the economy in a time when private investment would be low.

In that regard, i think FIFA may have a few big spending bids thrown at them. EVen in a time of global recessions.
Excellent! My one reservation about an England bid would be the lack of new stadia to feed my addiction.
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 11:12 AM   #4237
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Australia is capable of hosting great events but I'm not gonna put money on their bid or their chances of winning. Unless FIFA give Townsville Dairy Farmer stadium the thumbs up!
There's no way an Australian bid would include a patched up Dairy Farmers Stadium. Townsville will be fighting other small regional cities like Cairns and Hobart for a hosting position. A total rebuild or new modern stadium would be needed either at the current location or closer to the city proper. That goes for most of Australia's venues such as the Sydney Football Stadium, which already has a lack of Corporate Suites and will be 30 years old by 2018.

Like Germany and South Africa, venues will be put forward then replaced by new Stadium proposals as the bid matures and / or wins. Such as Munich originally proposing a renovated Olympic Stadium, Capetown with Newlands and Durban with a renovated Kings Park.
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 11:25 AM   #4238
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Australia is capable of hosting great events but I'm not gonna put money on their bid or their chances of winning. Unless FIFA give Townsville Dairy Farmer stadium the thumbs up!
Lol, just remember the state of stadia in your country before the winning WC bid was announced.

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There's no way an Australian bid would include a patched up Dairy Farmers Stadium. Townsville will be fighting other small regional cities like Cairns and Hobart for a hosting position.
And what do you suppose those new stadiums in Cairns &/or Hobart would be used for after the WC? At least a revamped DF Stadium in Townsville will have a use after the WC.
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Old December 22nd, 2008, 01:49 PM   #4239
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Just a quick post to note that FIFA have confirmed that 2018 & 2022 bidding will take place at the same time. Applications to be sent out in Jan 2009, vote to be made in Dec 2010.

The race begins...
Should we merge the 2018 and 2022 threads?
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Please could anyone say the bidders for 2018?

I don't want to read so many pages.
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