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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old April 16th, 2006, 07:40 PM   #421
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lol . . . fair enough

What I meant was that many people disregard football/soccer importance in this country because atm it's regarded as the 4th football code but what they don't know is the huge latent supporter base it has. For many decades Soccer Australia have systematically decimated the national league with their petty infighting and incompetence which lead to the formation of the new FFA and the A-League last year with huge success. Yet the one thing that has stood the test of time has been the popularity of the national team. The last six games at the MCG alone haven't yielded a crowd less that 70k and the Greece game in May sold out in two hours.

As I said . . . losing to Iran still burns today.
fair enough. i should probably put a wink after my posts, i just re-read my last two and i sound like a miserable little shit!

bob, apologies, i was a bit harsh on you - i could've made my point in a more civilised manner.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 08:26 PM   #422
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Soon the national teams won't be able to afford the insurance of these players. Also, with the big Eurpoean clubs starting to make noises about wanting their players paid for when they're off playing for their countries, hopefully we'll soon reach a stage where International football is either dead or in the least, an under 25 sport.

The semi-finals of the World Cup is infinitely inferior to the semi-finals of the Champions League, as it is. Why should our top clubs loan out their prize assets for 2 months in the summer for such a second rate competition? International football simply beggars belief and thankfully, won't be around as we know it, in 15 years time.
What the hell? The World Cup is a pretty special event. Sure, clubs like Barca or Chelsea might have all-star teams that could take on many nations but a world cup isn't just about the quality of play. For 4 weeks bragging rights between nations are on the line, to this day the 54 world cup win is regarded as a historic event here in Germany (and the 74 world cup has left a deep scar on the psyche of some Dutchmen).
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Old April 16th, 2006, 08:36 PM   #423
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What the hell? The World Cup is a pretty special event. Sure, clubs like Barca or Chelsea might have all-star teams that could take on many nations but a world cup isn't just about the quality of play. For 4 weeks bragging rights between nations are on the line, to this day the 54 world cup win is regarded as a historic event here in Germany (and the 74 world cup has left a deep scar on the psyche of some Dutchmen).
Correct. But when the nations aren't allowed to choose their best players (and this will rightly happen sooner rather than later) the whole thing will become largely pointless, almost Olympic-like, where most sides will contain young up-and-coming players rather than established stars.

I'm a Manchester United fan and the sooner we can rest up players like Rooney, Ferdinand, Ronaldo, Neville and the like, instead of sending them off playing for their country and risking burnout and injury, the better.

Thankfully, the day is not far off when the law will enable clubs to protect their assets.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 08:42 PM   #424
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Lostboy]considering just how embedded the traditional three team sports are there, and the xenophobia in both Japan and the USA.
A Brit saying Americans and Japanease xenophobic when it come to sports!!! Thats rich!!
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Old April 16th, 2006, 08:42 PM   #425
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between those 4 - England or Greece
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Old April 16th, 2006, 08:42 PM   #426
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Thing is, to you Aussies, the World Cup is just another franchise, nothing more. You simply cannot grasp the bigger picture.

Okay you have got 5 great stadia, like the MCG, Suncorp, Telstra Dome, Telstra Stadium and the Sydney Football ground, but that's it.

The likes of Perth, Adelaide and Hobart have inadequate facilities and yes- you will be forced to use the likes of Newcastle, Darwin and Alice Springs as host cities.

Sounds like a joke to be frank
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Old April 16th, 2006, 08:51 PM   #427
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94 was hopeless. Dress it up with any statistics you like, the whole competition had no soul. It was a plastic World Cup and a dismal failure.

sorry, I think the stats that Mo showed you were likely music to FIFA's ears. Were the crowds as good as they would be in soccer mad nations? Not really. Great TV ratings, largest ticket sales, an unprecedented collection of huge and quality stadiums, sell outs, exposure to a nation of 300 million people. All in all a pretty good result.

The only complaint might be the dormancy of the fans. Money trumps all though (especially to FIFA).
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Old April 16th, 2006, 09:06 PM   #428
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A world Cup final held in the day, not under lights. A crime.
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Old April 16th, 2006, 09:08 PM   #429
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Has some thread with research to know where goes to be WC 2014?
it puts the page for me there! please!
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Old April 16th, 2006, 09:28 PM   #430
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Oh, okay a Brazilian politician says that everything is working perfectly.

Personally I would not even believe an Australian, American or a British politician and they are borderline honest some of the time.


Honest politicians?? What world are you living in mate??
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Old April 17th, 2006, 12:52 AM   #431
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USA 94 was far from crap
1. highest revenues for FIFA
2. largest crowds...
3. television coverage and other revenues made FIFA very happy
4. 2002 the US teams performance was certainly a positive result.
I think u kinda proved my point. fifa just wanted to reach out and 'comercialise' the event to more people, all about 'advertisement' and money. not much about football
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Old April 17th, 2006, 01:00 AM   #432
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Thing is to the English, it was very souless because after the almost of Italia '90, we didn't even manage to qualify, we're naturally prejudiced against it. Would be interesting to get the opinion of non-English on FIFA '94. I think it was a relatively successful tournament.
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Old April 17th, 2006, 01:03 AM   #433
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err no, KoreaJapan was similar, although much better then USA or should i say, the "coca cola World cup"
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Old April 17th, 2006, 01:24 AM   #434
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USA'94 was a good World Cup in my opinion. Most of the football was crap but you can't blame the hosts for that. I might be biased because it was the first World Cup I remember watching but I have some fond memories about it. Getting up in the middle of the night to watch The Netherlands - Saudi Arabia, beating Ireland 2-0 thanks to a huge mistake by Pat Bonner and a heartbreaking 3-2 defeat against Brazil in the quarters.

The reason the English hate it because they weren't there. Bless you, Ronald Koeman
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Old April 17th, 2006, 02:16 AM   #435
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Thing is to the English, it was very souless because after the almost of Italia '90, we didn't even manage to qualify, we're naturally prejudiced against it. Would be interesting to get the opinion of non-English on FIFA '94. I think it was a relatively successful tournament.
I wouldnt say 94 was a failiure but I do think theres only so often you can go to the well when it comes to using the WC to promote the game in new territories before it starts to erode the prestige of the event in both the fans and players eyes. As I said in the 2014 thread I think the growth of the club game (and the european championships) might force FIFA to bring the WC back to the tradisional centers of the game.
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Old April 17th, 2006, 02:47 AM   #436
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I don't know why is even Portugal there... For much as i'd like to, a WC is too much for a country like Portugal, despite having such new stadia.
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Old April 17th, 2006, 02:54 AM   #437
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What is the benefit of spreading the World Cup to Australia, what is to be benefitted from the new pastures there, - a lousy 20 million people - where the sports of AFL, Rugby Union, Rugby League, Cricket and Misplaced Bragging, are not going to be replaced by Football anytime soon.
lol . . . Maybe if so called experts like yourself would stop telling us we can't do things then maybe we wouldn't have to remind you of it afterwards.

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In return we get, inappropiate cricket stadia and others which will surely never be used again
As someone stated before, a possible three non rectangular stadiums would be used - no different to most tournaments and the rest will be used again as they double up as rugby stadiums.

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You seriously have NFI.

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anti-social hours for the rest of us and the World Cup is reduced to nothing more than another notch in the bed post of the Lucky Country.
Is that your biggest whine that you might have to wake up a little earlier to watch a game? Well welcome to our world - we've been doing it forever and it won't kill you.

btw . . . our anti-social hours are just perfect for half the worlds population.

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A very successful tournament???
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Old April 17th, 2006, 03:25 AM   #438
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I don't know why is even Portugal there... For much as i'd like to, a WC is too much for a country like Portugal, despite having such new stadia.
basically i was struggling for countries outside of England and Spain
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I understand, but having a bigger number of stadiums with a bigger capacity is just too much for our general football attendance. And it's way too early to make changes to our new stadiums so they can withstand more people.
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Old April 17th, 2006, 05:35 AM   #440
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The likes of Perth, Adelaide and Hobart have inadequate facilities and yes- you will be forced to use the likes of Newcastle, Darwin and Alice Springs as host cities.

Sounds like a joke to be frank
Why would we use Alice Springs? It's got about 28,000 people - you could fit the whole town's population and still have plenty of empty seats, because it's just about the most isolated place in the country. It's only close to Uluru and a secret US intelligence base.

Don't forget that Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane all have several smaller cities within two hours that are always shadowed by their larger neighbours.


2018 would be possible, but remote for Australia IMO. 2022 could be quite viable, especially since by then, a lot of stadium construction would have been well underway. If it took only the single inaugural season of the A-League to create enough demand for a new stadium in Melbourne, a lot can be done in 16 years.
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