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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 07:34 AM   #4521
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Isn't it North Korea actually?
That would be interesting!

USA would have to play their games somewhere else.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 08:33 AM   #4522
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Basing it on History and if all goes according to plans,,,

1998-France..........Europe
2002-Korea/Japan..Asia
2006-Germany......Europe
2010-S.Africa........Africa
2014-Brazil...........S.America

2018-?????............Europe, basing it on what the Euros are used to, on getting the WC every 8 yrs, would have been 12 yrs since 06 hosted in Germany. And plus the influence they have over FIFA.

2022-????.............N.America or Asia, who else? by that time it would be 28 yrs since CONCACAF last hosted and 20 for Asia.

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Old February 3rd, 2009, 11:38 AM   #4523
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Peter Butler: If Indonesia Puts Its House In Order, It Could Host A Great World Cup
Ex-West Ham midfielder Peter Butler has coached all around Asia. That stint included two years in the Indonesian league. The Englishman was thrilled to learn that the nation wants the 2022 World Cup but warns that widespread corruption in the game needs to be eradicated...


The thought of Indonesia bidding for a World Cup has me thinking how positive it could be for the game there. After spending two years of my coaching career in the hurly-burly world of Indonesian Football I learned a few things.

Anybody reading this thinking it’s a footballing backwater should take my advice: get on a plane and go to Indonesia to watch a game. The atmosphere at one of the top games will blow you away - big crowds week in, week out, full houses of 40- 50,000 are not uncommon.

Apologies to my Australian friends but if you go to a top game in the A-League, all you will probably hear for 90 minutes is ‘Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie, Oi Oi Oi !!!’

Go to Indonesia and you will get an atmosphere to rival anywhere in Asia. They are fanactical. Last season I was at Arema Malang for a game. Those fans are without doubt the best fans in Indonesia. There were over 45,000 in the stadium, constantly singing and dancing on the terraces.

I have always said and believed Indonesian football is the jewel in the crown of Asian Football. It will only get bigger and better and go forward if they can drive out the corruption which exists in the game there.

Sadly, corruption is rampant within the sport and the Asian Football Confederation and FIFA need to get a grip of it because it is out of control.

I myself am owed over $45,000 by my ex-club, Persiba Balikapapan, and over 50 players are presently fighting their cases with FIFPro at FIFA to receive what they are owed.

There is no protection for coaches and players, and sadly many club officials manipulate the system for their own personal gain, sack coaches and players at will and refuse to pay what is owed on their contracts. The Indonesian FA turn a blind eye.

I have had players on my doorstep and crying on the phone to me begging for help because their club will not pay their contract and they have a wife and kids to feed. The AFC are not interested.

People will always ask if Indonesia is safe to hold such a major event. All I can say is: I have never had a problem in Indonesia in my time and have always felt safe. The people in Jakarta are wonderful people, and Indonesians in general are wonderful. They are so vibrant.

2022 is a long way away and I would love for the hopes and dreams of Indonesian football, and the wonderful people of Indonesia, to come true and that they get a chance to host the tournament. It would be fantastic for a nation of genuine football lovers.

After all the tragic events which have happened in recent years it would be a dream come true for my Indonesian friends to see the spectacle of world football take place there, and I hopefully will be there with them watching England win the trophy at the Gelora Bung Karno. Dreams sometimes do come true!

Peter Butler

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Old February 3rd, 2009, 12:46 PM   #4524
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A spokesman told Reuters Monday that FIFA would consider joint bids from countries who were not capable of hosting a World Cup on their own.
This would be good news for the Netherlands and Belgium. Both countries aren't able to host a WC on their own without leaving empty stadiums behind.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 02:23 PM   #4525
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That would be interesting!

USA would have to play their games somewhere else.
There actually was a rumor some time ago that they will bid
Probably U.S.A. wouldn't participate just like in 1980 at the Olympic Games.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 05:44 PM   #4526
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fifa.com, February 3rd:

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Remarkable interest in 2018 & 2022

FIFA has received a total of 11 formal expressions of interest to bid for the 2018 and/or the 2022 FIFA World Cups™ by the established deadline of 2 February 2009. The member associations that have confirmed their interest in hosting FIFA's flagship competition are, in alphabetical order: Australia, Belgium and the Netherlands, England, Indonesia, Japan, Korea Republic, Mexico, Qatar, Russia, Spain and Portugal, and the USA.

"It is remarkable that so many high-quality contenders have expressed an initial interest in hosting our flagship competition," said FIFA President Joseph S. Blatter. "Our world is one that is rich in natural beauty and cultural diversity, but also one where many are still deprived of their basic rights, or have to deal with the daily realities of conflict. FIFA now has an even greater responsibility to reach out and touch the world, using football as a symbol of hope and integration.

"The current worldwide economic crisis has brought another dimension of uncertainty into the lives of many people around the world. Football has an extraordinary power to unite people, as well as an ability to inspire emotions of hope, passion and joy.


"This is even more true when it comes to the FIFA World Cup, a truly global competition. For this reason, FIFA has asked the potential bidders to ensure that this power of football is used to urge solidarity and achieve positive change in the world; an opportunity to contribute to making a difference to people's lives, in line with our claim: For the Game. For the World.

"The bidding process for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups will be keenly contested and FIFA is eager to ensure that fair play prevails. For that reason, the FIFA Ethics Committee will be involved in the proceedings."

FIFA will now send the Bid Registration form on 16 February to the member associations which have formally expressed their interest to bid for the 2018 and the 2022 FIFA World Cups.

More details about the bidding process itself, the calendar and the conditions can be found in the circular letter, which can be accessed through the link on the right-hand panel of this article.

So... where's Egypt?
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 06:57 PM   #4527
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OK. Added a poll.
Although its a Multiple Choice Poll, please just vote for just one 2018 / 2022.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 08:00 PM   #4528
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Is official the race without Egypt?
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 08:03 PM   #4529
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My votes.

England - 2018
Japan - 2022
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 08:17 PM   #4530
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My votes:

2018 Russia
2022 Australia

It could be interesting for every bids to make a realistic list of the cities.

For example which cities for Australia bid? Sidney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Darwin, Canberra, Perth and then?

And about Russia?
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 08:19 PM   #4531
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England 2018

Australia 2022
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 08:21 PM   #4532
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spain and portugal 2018

portugal and spain 2022

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Old February 3rd, 2009, 08:31 PM   #4533
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If England where to get the nod to host in 2018 then from the list remaining the only viable option at this moment in time would be Australia to host in 2022. I would've said China but they aren't bidding.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 09:01 PM   #4534
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England 2018

Not so sure about 2022, I think it will be between USA, Australia and (hopefully) Indonesia.
I hope for Australia or Indonesia, USA only had it in 1994 and the two other countries could profit much more from it.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 10:32 PM   #4535
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2018 Russia
2022 Australia

It could be interesting for every bids to make a realistic list of the cities.

For example which cities for Australia bid? Sidney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Darwin, Canberra, Perth and then?

And about Russia?
If you can choose 6 Australian cities you can surely have enough Russian cities for a World Cup since it's, damn, one big country :

1.Moscow
2.Saint Petersburg
3.Novgorod
4.Yekaterinburg
5.Kazan
6.Omsk
7.Novosibirsk
8.Samara
9.Rostov
10.Perm

Of course, I only have examples of 10 cities with population over 1 million in the city limits. There are some of them that don't have football teams in the Russian Premier League since some of them are in smaller cities, though, Vladivostok would be a nice "democratic" one since it played some time in they're 1st Division :-D.
Then, I don't know how those Russian people appreciate football outside of Moscow and S.Petersburg, except these 2 cities I have heard nothing about other teams and they're fans and of course...7 of the 16 teams are in Moscow.
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 10:35 PM   #4536
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OK. Added a poll.
Although its a Multiple Choice Poll, please just vote for just one 2018 / 2022.
Thanks for adding that to the thread. I voted wrong but it doesn't really matter...

I've "exceeded my bandwidth" on Photobucket so most of my photos on this thread have been deleted. I'd like to re-do the first post of this thread but it'll take about a day - sounds like a challenge!
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Old February 3rd, 2009, 10:55 PM   #4537
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is the poll list the official Fifa list?
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Old February 4th, 2009, 03:50 AM   #4539
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Old February 4th, 2009, 04:30 AM   #4540
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Why the US will host in 2018 or 2022 (likely 2022). $$$$$$$$$. Right or wrong, money usually plays the biggest factor in FIFA's decisions and SoccerNet.com's Steve Davis explains the riches awaiting FIFA in the US.

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At some point, this bid process is all about the facilities. (Well, really, it's about money. Because finances are inextricably linked to facility size, by extension, these bids are about physical structures.) The United States enjoys a stadium situation unrivaled in the rest of the world, thanks mostly to the country's love of American football and need to stack the racks with money-waving fans.

More seats mean more money for FIFA. It's that simple.

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Consider this: A World Cup today could be scattered quite easily around a roster of fabulous stadiums that didn't even exist when the United States hosted World Cup 1994.

Let that sink in. That's how deep the selection of stadiums is here.

And, of course, venerable facilities such as the Rose Bowl, which hosted the 1994 final, remain in play. That one also holds 100,000-plus fans.

The 1994 World Cup smashed previous records for attendance; the 52-game tournament averaged 68,991 fans, a mark that still stands. The next one here will easily surpass that record.

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There's also a matter of sponsorship. Here, too, FIFA has reason to purr over prospects of a second World Cup in the United States.

"From a sponsorship perspective, the two countries that advertisers currently covet most are the United States and China, and this will probably continue to be the case in 2018 and beyond," said John Alper, vice president of Premier Partnerships, a national sales and marketing firm specializing in revenue generation for facilities, events and properties. "Obviously, FIFA considers a variety of factors for this decision. However, from a sponsorship perspective, having the USA as the host nation is definitely a plus."

And by "definitely a plus," he means more cash for the FIFA kitty. Ka-ching!

The 1994 World Cup was a rousing success, at least in terms of attendance and revenue. And soccer's profile has risen substantially in the United States in the 15 years since. That means hosting a World Cup in 2018 or 2022 would be a colossus.

The World Cup in Germany averaged 52,491 spectators per contest. Given the scale of the new facilities available to the U.S.' bid, the average crowd for a World Cup in the United States could climb to 75,000. That's an extra 22,000-plus fans for 64 matches. With an average ticket price of $140 or so (the World Cup in South Africa next year will charge an average of $139, so that is a very conservative estimate), that's an additional $197 million just in ticket revenue.

......

One more thing: Facilities in other countries, nice as some are, aren't designed with luxury boxes in mind. Not to the extent U.S. stadiums are, at least. Those opportunities for premium sales generate good money, too. Ka-ching, again.

Money talks. FIFA listens. Another World Cup is headed to the United States in your lifetime, and Feb. 2 is the day it all officially started.
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