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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old February 14th, 2009, 11:09 PM   #4681
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2018 in USA
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Old February 14th, 2009, 11:13 PM   #4682
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yea usa can be too
nice USA OR MEX
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Old February 15th, 2009, 01:10 AM   #4683
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2018 in USA
Not a chance.

FIFA will not stage two consecutive World Cups in the Americas.

2022 is possible for USA or Mexico. But I think it more likely that 2018 and 2022 will feature one World Cup staged in Europe and one in Asia.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 02:01 AM   #4684
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South America is another continent, but i think the US will get it in 2022.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 03:26 AM   #4685
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so what do you think about the stadiums in mexxicoooo..
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Old February 15th, 2009, 03:28 AM   #4686
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Not a chance.

FIFA will not stage two consecutive World Cups in the Americas.

2022 is possible for USA or Mexico. But I think it more likely that 2018 and 2022 will feature one World Cup staged in Europe and one in Asia.
North America, not South America.

The sooner the rest of the world realizes the difference the better.

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yea usa can be too
nice USA OR MEX
No, Mexico doesnt have a shot. Not in the least. You cant host three when others havent even hosted two.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 03:31 AM   #4687
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well azteca is a good stadium just needs a little of remodeling..and paint..
its huge..
the second biggest in da worl
estadio jalisco is nice..!!
chivas de guadalajara..a strong mexican team plays there
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Jalisco won't even be part of the bid and will probably be demolished by 2018. Estadio Chivas will be part of the bid.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 03:31 AM   #4688
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Yea, FIFA doesn't care about the "Americas" thing. They see them as CONCACAF and COMNEBOL.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 03:33 AM   #4689
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Yea, FIFA doesn't care about the "Americas" thing. They see them as CONCACAF and COMNEBOL.
Yup. I agree that USA won't get 2018, but that's because FIFA won't let Europe go a third WC without hosting, not because of the Americas.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 04:19 AM   #4690
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so what do you think about the stadiums in mexxicoooo..

Which Cruz Azul upgrade is actually happening? The new roof or the new stadium design?

Also, is the Indios Arena going to have grass? I'm assuming the heat is a big problem if they've building an indoor stadium?
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Old February 15th, 2009, 08:51 AM   #4691
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no ..jalisco isnt gonna get demolished...
indios arena is going to have the grass dat its fake or something..
idk wats it called.
idk wich azull stadium might be upgraded..but it will
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Old February 15th, 2009, 09:02 AM   #4692
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no ..jalisco isnt gonna get demolished...
indios arena is going to have the grass dat its fake or something..
idk wats it called.
idk wich azull stadium might be upgraded..but it will
Jalisco will likely be demolished in a decade. Chivas is moving out and Atlas will likely make a move to a new stadium by 2022. Even if it isn't demolished, it won't play a part in the bid. Estadio Chivas will be Guadalajara's stadium in the bid.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 09:58 AM   #4693
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Mexico, no way

There is no way Mexico can host a WC in the near future.

It currently has only 2 stadiums that meet FIFA requirements, Hidalgo and Victoria (30k and 20K) but not enough capacity for a WC

The only stadium that is currently under construction in Mexico that meets FIFA reqs and capacity is estadio Chivas. TSModelo will be only 26k

Therefore we would need to build at least 8 new stadiums, and increase capacity in Hidalgo, Victoria and TSM... piece of cake!!!!

Please, before arguing read the FIFA reqs

And NO, Azteca Stadium does not need paint only. For instance, current exits and allowance between seats does not comply. Seats could be not a big problem, but building new exits will be a nightmare.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 10:42 AM   #4694
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North America, not South America.

The sooner the rest of the world realizes the difference the better.
Bloody hell! Being given a lecture in geography by a yank!

Does it get any lower than that?

Yes, I know that there is a difference between North and South America, thanks. However, I'll repeat......there is no way that FIFA will follow the 2014 World Cup in Brazil with a World Cup in Mexico or USA in 2018.

FIFA has already conceded that it cannot and will not persist with the idea of strict rotation of continents. The reason for this is simply that there are not enough countries in some continents that are capable of hosting a modern World Cup - with all its stadium and infrastructure requirements.

Strict rotation would mean returning every sixty years to certain countries (USA and Mexico, for instance), while other countries (especially in Europe) would only get to host the World Cup once every hundred and sixty years. And that would be wrong.

Therefore, in terms of bids to host the World Cup, FIFA will almost certainly henceforward couple CONMEBOL together with CONCACAF. They cover the same time zones more or less (relevant for TV and advertising) and, combined, they can muster about as many potential hosts as Europe.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 06:28 PM   #4695
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FIFA doesn't care.

FIFA cares about money. FIFA is a for-profit corporation, not a teddy bear.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 06:55 PM   #4696
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The ones who vote are the 24 members of the FIFA Executive Committee, each one of them with personal interests.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 06:57 PM   #4697
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FIFA doesn't care.

FIFA cares about money. FIFA is a for-profit corporation, not a teddy bear.
Yet another reason why USA won't get the 2018 World Cup.

USA is a fantastically rich country but wealth counts for nothing if the majority of the public aren't interested in watching the games. FIFA makes far more money from TV / advertising when the World Cup is held in Europe because, in terms of viewing figures, the US lags far behind.

Europe is the cash cow. FIFA will consequently not stage three consecutive World Cups outside of Europe.

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Old February 16th, 2009, 01:41 AM   #4698
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Yet another reason why USA won't get the 2018 World Cup.

USA is a fantastically rich country but wealth counts for nothing if the majority of the public aren't interested in watching the games. FIFA makes far more money from TV / advertising when the World Cup is held in Europe because, in terms of viewing figures, the US lags far behind.

Europe is the cash cow. FIFA will consequently not stage three consecutive World Cups outside of Europe.
The USA pays FIFA the most money of any country for the TV rights to the WC. 2018 is going to Europe, but money is not the reason why. 1994 was one of, if not the most profitable WC's ever and when it comes back here, it will be the most profitable ever. They're going back to Europe in 2018 because there's a wealthy country with a strong bid in England and there are far more countries and voters in Europe than any other continent. England 2018, USA 2022.
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Old February 16th, 2009, 02:39 AM   #4699
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It wouldn't suprise me if the USA pays the most money of any country concerning TV rights for a WC. However the EUFA has 53 'nations' as members where most are paying separately for the WC rights. Europe in total pays far more than the USA for these rights.

Also worth mentioning is that Europe has a lot of strong football nations very close together, what makes it more interesting. At the Euro 2008 there were approximetaly150.000 Dutch supporters in Switzerland during the quarter final in the host city.
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Old February 16th, 2009, 09:34 AM   #4700
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It wouldn't suprise me if the USA pays the most money of any country concerning TV rights for a WC. However the EUFA has 53 'nations' as members where most are paying separately for the WC rights. Europe in total pays far more than the USA for these rights.

Also worth mentioning is that Europe has a lot of strong football nations very close together, what makes it more interesting. At the Euro 2008 there were approximetaly150.000 Dutch supporters in Switzerland during the quarter final in the host city.
Precisely. USA is a hugely wealthy country of 300 million people - far bigger than any single European country. So it's quite likely that, seen in isolation, USA's TV rights will be more valuable than any one nation in Europe. But the combined TV rights for Europe are far more valuable - for the simple reason that the combined European market for World Cup matches on TV is far larger than the US. Remember, the combined population for UEFA countries is in the region of 850 million - nearly three times bigger than the US - and it is far more football obsessed than the US.
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