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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old February 16th, 2009, 12:21 PM   #4701
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Europe doesn't just pay more in total. Broadcasting rights in individual countries are more worth than in the USA.
According to this source Disney pays $425m for every FIFA tournament in 8 years including the 2010 and 214 World Cups.
In Germany alone the TV rights for 2010 World Cup have been sold apparently in excess of €180m [source].
It's not particular difficult to figure out that the interest in football in the USA is lukewarm at best.
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Old February 17th, 2009, 08:59 PM   #4702
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Today FIFA officially accepted Portugal and Spain bid. I don't know about Belgium and the Netherlands.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 04:06 PM   #4703
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The USA pays FIFA the most money of any country for the TV rights to the WC. 2018 is going to Europe, but money is not the reason why. 1994 was one of, if not the most profitable WC's ever and when it comes back here, it will be the most profitable ever. They're going back to Europe in 2018 because there's a wealthy country with a strong bid in England and there are far more countries and voters in Europe than any other continent. England 2018, USA 2022.
I read somewhere it was the most profitable.
But I think that means most profitable for the host nation, not FIFA. The host nation keeps all revenue from ticket sales, FIFA keeps the revenue from tv rights. Considering 94 had by far the highest attendance, it wouldn't surprise me it was most profitable, but that wouldn't sway FIFA as most of the TV money comes from Europe.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 04:08 PM   #4704
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Today FIFA officially accepted Portugal and Spain bid. I don't know about Belgium and the Netherlands.
WTF? FIFA

Im happy about the bid, just dismayed at FIFA's constant backflipping.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 04:09 PM   #4705
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just because its the most 'profitable' doesnt mean its the best world cup. its about the football, not the money. itll be remembered for the FOOTBALL.

gosh, you ..... it comes to prioritising in the worlds most beautiful game. to you idiots, its all about money money money isnt it. prats.

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Old February 18th, 2009, 05:22 PM   #4706
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just because its the most 'profitable' doesnt mean its the best world cup. its about the football, not the money. itll be remembered for the FOOTBALL.

gosh, you ..... it comes to prioritising in the worlds most beautiful game. to you idiots, its all about money money money isnt it. prats.

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Calm down. No need to work yourself into a tizzy, Jizzy.

We're only discussing money because money will inevitably play a significant part in deciding which countries are chosen by FIFA to host the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 10:57 PM   #4707
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just because its the most 'profitable' doesnt mean its the best world cup. its about the football, not the money. itll be remembered for the FOOTBALL.

gosh, you ..... it comes to prioritising in the worlds most beautiful game. to you idiots, its all about money money money isnt it. prats.


How many people celebrated the world cup in the streets of the host cities 1994? I guess none, the modern world cup with thousnds of celebrating football fans in the streets of the host cities started in 2006 and will be continued in REAL football nations in the future!

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Old February 18th, 2009, 11:17 PM   #4708
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Sebastian Coe has been appointed as a non-executive board member of England's 2018 World Cup bid team.

Lord Coe will continue to chair the London Organising Committee for the 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games.

But he has agreed a leave of absence from his position as chairman of Fifa's ethics committee.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 11:24 PM   #4709
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just because its the most 'profitable' doesnt mean its the best world cup. its about the football, not the money. itll be remembered for the FOOTBALL.

gosh, you ..... it comes to prioritising in the worlds most beautiful game. to you idiots, its all about money money money isnt it. prats.

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Well, based on your logic, they should just play the Cup in my backyard. If it should only be remembered for the play of the game instead of other factors then it really doesnt matter where you play it right? No, it doesnt work that way.
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Old February 19th, 2009, 09:12 AM   #4710
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BIG 3 Polling Results @ SSC for 2022

Australia - 54
Indonesia 37
USA - 32

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Old March 3rd, 2009, 07:39 AM   #4711
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I hope 2018 goes to Russia. Then it would be nice to see the WC return to America. Mexico would be my preferred choice in America followed by Canada.
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Old March 3rd, 2009, 11:44 AM   #4712
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Is it December 2010 yet? I want to know what's going to happen!

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Old March 3rd, 2009, 09:16 PM   #4713
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I hope 2018 goes to Russia.
May I ask "why?" Sure appears an uphill battle in regards to facilities and the volume of attractive host communities.
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Old March 4th, 2009, 08:49 PM   #4714
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You should give world cup to countries where the peoples interest and countries achievements in football is streemly growing!(like Euro 2008 & UFA cup) . I am For Russia !
And that will solve the problems with stadiums too
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Old March 4th, 2009, 09:09 PM   #4715
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May I ask "why?" Sure appears an uphill battle in regards to facilities and the volume of attractive host communities.
Sure, if it's the 'World's Game', as often gets bandied about, it should be shared with the world. Give it to a country that hasn't had it before. Not only has Russia never hosted, but it's a major sporting nation of the world.

Attractive? That's all a point of view. I'm sure a big powerful nation like Russia is more than capable of meeting the challenge of a World Cup. Russia may not be popular in certain parts of the world, but that can be said for almost any nation.

Western Europe seems to have this notion of entitlement when it comes to soccer. The list of reasons why Western European locales are the best choices is never ending. The word 'share' seems to be a new concept with many in that region.

I don't mind if it goes to Australia or Indonesia either, but I think Russia has fielded many good teams over the years. Let Russia have it.
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Old March 4th, 2009, 10:35 PM   #4716
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so you'd give it to indonesia over england?

You lump western europe together like it is one place. England hasn't hosted the world cup since 1966. 52 years by then. Hosting in France is as good as hosting it in Timbuktoo, England fans travel anywhere. So saying we've had it close means nothing, we haven't had it though have we!!
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Old March 4th, 2009, 10:49 PM   #4717
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I just get the feeling these bids are a bit too early for Russia. Maybe I'm wrong but they just don't seem like a nation thats going to spend billions of public money on stadiums(I'd guess we'd be taking more western prices than chinese/african ones) these days. The leagues been growing largely on private funding and in 5-10 years it may have have alot of the stadiums that would be needed but will everything be planned and worked out in a couple of years?
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Old March 4th, 2009, 10:57 PM   #4718
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geographical spread would be a nightmare, away games to vladvostock and tomsk must've been a nightmare last season
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Old March 5th, 2009, 04:17 AM   #4719
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Sure, if it's the 'World's Game', as often gets bandied about, it should be shared with the world. Give it to a country that hasn't had it before. Not only has Russia never hosted, but it's a major sporting nation of the world.

Attractive? That's all a point of view. I'm sure a big powerful nation like Russia is more than capable of meeting the challenge of a World Cup. Russia may not be popular in certain parts of the world, but that can be said for almost any nation.

Western Europe seems to have this notion of entitlement when it comes to soccer. The list of reasons why Western European locales are the best choices is never ending. The word 'share' seems to be a new concept with many in that region.

I don't mind if it goes to Australia or Indonesia either, but I think Russia has fielded many good teams over the years. Let Russia have it.
Such a big show of championing fairness and sharing.............yet you are backing a World Cup in Mexico in 2022???

Hardly a choice consistent with your stated principles! Mexico has already hosted the World Cup twice and you want it to host the World Cup a third time before the vast majority of countries have even hosted it twice?
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Old March 5th, 2009, 06:45 AM   #4720
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Such a big show of championing fairness and sharing.............yet you are backing a World Cup in Mexico in 2022???

Hardly a choice consistent with your stated principles! Mexico has already hosted the World Cup twice and you want it to host the World Cup a third time before the vast majority of countries have even hosted it twice?
I was thinking the exact same thing
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