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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old April 20th, 2006, 04:03 AM   #481
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capacity isn't everything. particularly looking at those stadia, this is definately the case!
most of them were built 50 years ago, and they were pretty good for the time. its obvious that new stadiums will have to be built for the WC. CBF WANTS new stadiums, and thats exactly why Blatter is already criticizing Brazil a long time before any official proposal is made, so CBF get support from the media and governent to build new stadiums!
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Old April 20th, 2006, 04:09 AM   #482
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Oh, okay a Brazilian politician says that everything is working perfectly.

Personally I would not even believe an Australian, American or a British politician and they are borderline honest some of the time.

Ricardo Teixeira is not a POLITICIAN. He is the president of the CBF, Brazil´s Football Confederation (Confederação Brasileira de Futebol).

Brazil has 27 state football federations, and the national confederation. (that happens because Brazil has over 500 PROFESSIONAL football clubs)
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Old April 20th, 2006, 04:50 AM   #483
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have you been to a game in south america recently?
there are no NATION TEAM hooligans in South America. Only club hooligans.
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Old April 20th, 2006, 04:53 AM   #484
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And in Brazil the mothers of famous players are regularly kidnapped.
1- they are not REGULARLY kidnapped. There were like 3 cases.
2- they are not kidnapped by hooligans from another clubs. They are kidnapped by normal criminals who wanted the players MONEY...
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Old April 20th, 2006, 08:10 AM   #485
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yes, and hosting a WC is the perfect excuse to build new ones.

The only modern stadium in Brazil right now is Arena da Baixada, in Curitiba.
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Old April 20th, 2006, 10:51 AM   #486
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Interesting points made.

Assuming that they have a ground-building programme in the works, it would be interesting what the capacities would be. I would think that in the largest cities they can still have a capacity well above 85,000 people, even when considering the insane ticketing policies FIFA likes to institute. This is just a guess but I think we'd see something along the line of...

(Capacity after allocated tickets to the FIFA family and safety in parentheses)
SP - 90,000 (80,000)
Rio - 90,000 (80,000)
Belo - 70,000+ (60,000)
Manaus - 40,000 (32,000)
Curitiba - 40-50,000 (35,000)
Salvador - 40,000 (32,000)
Fortaleza - 50,000 (40,000)
Brasilia - 60,000 (49,000)
PoA - 70,000+ (61,000)

Many of these are going to be smaller to reflect the economic reality of the game.
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Old April 20th, 2006, 11:04 AM   #487
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I think Kazakstan should host it. Borrat & the boys should do a great job!
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Old April 20th, 2006, 11:28 AM   #488
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Many of these are going to be smaller to reflect the economic reality of the game.
I'd guess thats going to be the problem if there is one, unlike Germany Brazilian clubs are not rich enough to build the stadia themselves and unlike Japan the goverment might not be rich enough to either.
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Old April 20th, 2006, 11:04 PM   #489
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Englishman had disgraced our name by going on drunken rampages in the very Flemish Towns that their great-grandfathers had died to protect the safety of.
Couldn't have put it better mate. I don't know why these ******* dickheads exist cos if it wern't for these losers, the English would have such a better reputation abroad. I've had people from Turkey to Thailand quiz me about English football hooliganism whenever they see me in a football strip. Why do these ***** spoil the game for everyone else anyway, can't they just kill each other in one big blood bowl. They are a ****** disgrace to our nation, and to the beautiful game.
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Couldn't have put it better mate. I don't know why these ******* dickheads exist cos if it wern't for these losers, the English would have such a better reputation abroad. I've had people from Turkey to Thailand quiz me about English football hooliganism whenever they see me in a football strip. Why do these ***** spoil the game for everyone else anyway, can't they just kill each other in one big blood bowl. They are a ****** disgrace to our nation, and to the beautiful game.
Totally agree. It's a small minority that give the large majority a bad name! Thankfully though, football hooliganism has died down in recent years in England, but we'll have to wait for the world cup to see what the situation is really like. At least we don't have the racist cretins that make up a part of the Spanish crowd, or the fashist idiots from Italy!
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Old April 21st, 2006, 12:11 AM   #491
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No it was because just before the decision had been made, Englishman had disgraced our name by going on drunken rampages in the very Flemish Towns that their great-grandfathers had died to protect the safety of.

If I'd been a FIFA Delegate I'd have voted for Germany.
That made sure we had no chance but everything I'v heard since seems to point to the German already having much more support even before that. The fact the final is in Berlin and a couple of stadiums in the east(one of which isnt that good and the other a possible white elephant) certainly point to a united Germany hosting being a selling point.
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2014 - South America (Brazil)
2018 - Europe (England)
2022 - Europe (Spain or Netherlands)
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Old April 21st, 2006, 12:28 AM   #493
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The Dutch and Belgian FA's are currently investigating the possibility to launch a joint bid for 2018. I don't give them a chance in hell right now but we'll see how it developes.
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Old April 21st, 2006, 02:01 PM   #494
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2014 - South America (Brazil)
2018 - Europe (England)
2022 - Europe (Spain or Netherlands)
Impossible. Even before the recent concept of "rotation", there was already a rule that the same confederation could not host the World Cup twice in a row...
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Old April 21st, 2006, 02:20 PM   #495
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If we get 2018 I'd guess 2022 would be most likely to go to either China, Australia or the US again.
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Old April 22nd, 2006, 09:35 PM   #496
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NO not the USA!!!! AGAIN!!!
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Old April 22nd, 2006, 11:48 PM   #497
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do u want to clarify?
Yes, of course. You always talk as if you were the best country in the world, wich has all the best things, skyscrapers, sports venues, stadiums...and slate everything is outside of England or the UK. You boast about your wonderful stadiums and talk about the "Best Stadium in the World" as you call Wembley, a U/C ground that will be a Non-used Wonder, I mean only few games of the national team and few concerts, what's that, a waste of money for instance? Also you say in Italy are fascists and in Spain racists, but first you have to look to your Great Country and prevent the ******* hooligan jam. That's because I quoted, 'cause your patriotism hurts me.

@Its AlL gUUd: The reason because the other two are so near to Spain is 'cause Spain's a very very underrated country, but they don't know we are beginning to build our new era of stadia, around six between 40,000 and 75,000 spectators

I'd say the country that will host 2018 WC is England because it hosted WC a long time ago, England deserves it...
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Old April 23rd, 2006, 12:04 AM   #498
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'Its AlL gUUd' is the KING of England/London fanboys, you just have to accept it!! He doesn't realise there is a big world outside of England (he was off school the day they taught Geography as he had a bad cold), so it is not really his fault! I have been trying to educate him, but it is proving difficult!

If Wembley consisted of Godzilla doing a big steaming turd, and the insides being scooped out to form a giant jobby stadium, then 'Its AlL gUUd' would still claim it was the 'best stadium in the world'!!! He would also claim Godzilla is in fact English and England is the home of mythical giant lizards!!
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Spain is deffinitely not foremost capable of hosting an event of this calibre! England, despite it's very unpredictable climate and weather conditions, is far more suited to holding sporting events then Spain, for lots of deifferent reasons, such as bigger budgets, better organisation, more support, higher number of higher quality stadiums, and a severe lack of racist football supporters when compared to Spain. I don't have anything against Spain here btw, I'm just stating the facts of the matter.

Hahahaha. You need to lift your ass from that chair and travel around, chicken little.
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