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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old September 29th, 2009, 06:13 PM   #5341
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What do y'all think about Indonesia's chances? They've got quite a bit of oil money. It would also be the first Muslim nation to host a WC.
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Old September 29th, 2009, 10:18 PM   #5342
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I think 2018 will be for England and 2022 for the US.
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Old September 30th, 2009, 11:47 AM   #5343
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What do y'all think about Indonesia's chances? They've got quite a bit of oil money. It would also be the first Muslim nation to host a WC.
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USA and Australia are miles ahead in infrastructure.
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Old September 30th, 2009, 02:53 PM   #5344
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USA and Australia are miles ahead in infrastructure.
True, yet The Age noted how even Indonesia, in spite of a lack of infrastructure, disregarding other concerns, has government approval for the construction of stadiums for the WC.
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Old October 1st, 2009, 12:04 PM   #5345
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I hope and I think it will be Holland/Belgium!
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Old October 1st, 2009, 09:50 PM   #5346
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pool by year

2018
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=971028


2022
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...2#post43945482
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 03:12 AM   #5347
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I don't think England will get another big event next to the Olympics in such a short time. They have the best venues atm though. The WC 2018 should be held in the low countries. For the first time a world championship tournament in the Netherlands would be a great reward for the beautifull attacking football Holland showed in the last decade.
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Old October 2nd, 2009, 09:21 AM   #5348
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[QUOTE=hugenholz;43959198[B]]For the first time a world championship tournament in the Netherlands would be a great reward for the beautifull attacking football Holland showed in the last decade.[/[/B]QUOTE]

By your logic, then the WC should go for Cameroon/ Nigeria/ Ghana who have played the most attacking fooball. Grow up buddy.
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 12:07 AM   #5349
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I don't think England will get another big event next to the Olympics in such a short time. .
Brasil just got them.
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 01:04 AM   #5350
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Im changing my vote for England. It just seems proper that they get one in the modern age.
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 05:01 AM   #5351
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england 2018
australia 2022
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 02:39 PM   #5352
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By your logic, then the WC should go for Cameroon/ Nigeria/ Ghana who have played the most attacking fooball. Grow up buddy.
Yeah right, comparing the inventor of Total Football with 3rd world countries, come on.... The Netherlands national football team is ranked 2nd on both FIFA and Elo-rankings almost all the time. It's one of the best football countries around like Italy, Brazil, Germany, France, England, Argentina and Spain. Only difference, they never got the chance to organize a WC.

It's our turn now.
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 02:52 PM   #5353
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I don't think England will get another big event next to the Olympics in such a short time. They have the best venues atm though. The WC 2018 should be held in the low countries. For the first time a world championship tournament in the Netherlands would be a great reward for the beautifull attacking football Holland showed in the last decade.
hahahaha, then Bosnia can be host, as best scoring country in current qualifiers alongside Spain (21 goals in 8 matches).................Holland will never get world cup, never, they are too small country and their chances are like Qatar's.
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 02:58 PM   #5354
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The Netherlands is a part of Europe though. You can easily take a jet or train from England, France, or Germany amongst other European nations. It's not like Australia and sits all by its self in the middle of the ocean with the closest countries being Indonesia, New Zealand and PNG.

The Netherlands is quite capable of hosting a WC ~ I'm not sure of the current state of infrastructure, though as a highly competitive football nation I'm sure they would have some stadiums adequate of hosting a WC.
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 03:01 PM   #5355
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hahahaha, then Bosnia can be host, as best scoring country in current qualifiers alongside Spain (21 goals in 8 matches).................Holland will never get world cup, never, they are too small country and their chances are like Qatar's.
Too small?!?!?

The BeNeLux (The Low Countries) is the 11th economy in the world with a population of only 27 million, just after Spain and before Canada. It could easily be the most wealthy region on this planet.

Qatar; 56th economy; population 0.8 million

I rest my case.
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 03:08 PM   #5356
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 05:25 PM   #5357
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I don't know much about this but I remember a comment from Australias national coach, either Hiddink or Verbeek, doesn't matter which they are both from the netherlands that they hoped the Netherlands would not get the world cup because it would be bad for the national competition as it would create venues too large for the domestic league. would this be a problem?
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 05:37 PM   #5358
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Not really, for instance, Feyenoord has proposed a new stadium because the Kuip is getting to old. Current capacity is about 50.000, the new stadium will be an 85.000 seater at least, at the banks of the Meuse, close to the city center. And they can easily fill that amount during regular competition matches, they have lots of fans.

Amsterdam Arena wants to expand too, from 52.000 to 75.000 or so. Even without a possible 2018 WC...

There is a demand for bigger stadiums, unregarded the 2018 WC. And don't forget; more capacity > more revenue for clubs. There are several other stadium developments in the Netherlands and Belgium, check the thread on this topic...

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Old October 3rd, 2009, 06:23 PM   #5359
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I don't know much about this but I remember a comment from Australias national coach, either Hiddink or Verbeek, doesn't matter which they are both from the netherlands that they hoped the Netherlands would not get the world cup because it would be bad for the national competition as it would create venues too large for the domestic league. would this be a problem?
Virtually all clubs in the highest competition in the Netherlands have plans to expand their stadium. Most of them aren't thinking about the World Cup. The teams that are thinking of the World Cup all want to expand without the World Cup. In all these cases both the teams and local city councils have the same ambitions, they are only ajusting their plans to fit in a future planning schedule and WC requirements.
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Old October 3rd, 2009, 06:46 PM   #5360
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I don't think England will get another big event next to the Olympics in such a short time. They have the best venues atm though. The WC 2018 should be held in the low countries. For the first time a world championship tournament in the Netherlands would be a great reward for the beautifull attacking football Holland showed in the last decade.
Mexico City Olympic Games 1968, Mexico World Cup 1970.

Munich Olympics 1972, West Germany World Cup 1974.

USA World Cup 1994, Atlanta Olympics 1996.

Brazil World Cup 2014, Rio Olympics 2016.

All say that you are wrong - especially since there is a gap of only two years between each of the above and, by contrast, there will be a gap of six years between the London Olympics and World Cup 2018, if it comes to England.

As to Holland deserving the World Cup because of the style of football that they play, it's completely irrelevant, I'm afraid. The only relevant criteria are the relative merits of each of the bids and how well each of the bid countries plays the political game that is an inevitable part of the process.
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