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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old February 7th, 2010, 06:47 PM   #5541
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Haha, of course you are!
you are a DOUCHE BAG!!! JUST TRYING TO GET ATTENTION
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Old February 9th, 2010, 04:29 PM   #5542
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Gullit named President of The HollandBelgium Bid

EINDHOVEN, 9 February 2010 - Ruud Gullit has today been named as the President of The HollandBelgium Bid, the joint candidature of Belgium and the Netherlands for the World Cup in 2018/2022.

The board of The HollandBelgium Bid decided unanimously to appoint Gullit to the most important position within the organisation, citing his vast football knowledge and enormous international appeal as a potential ‘trump card’ for The HollandBelgium Bid .


The appointment means that The HollandBelgium Bid will have one of the most famous footballers from the history of the game in Belgium and the Netherlands to strengthen the candidacy and help promote it to the world. Gullit, who is already heavily engaged in all aspects of the international campaign and the strategy of the candidacy, will take an active role in leading the Bid delegations.

In addition to the appointment of Gullit, The Holland Belgium Bid has also today announced a number of other well known names as ambassadors of the candidacy. They include: European Player of the Century Johan Cruyff, soccer icons Marco van Basten, Clarence Seedorf, Eric Gerets, Dennis Bergkamp, Michel Preud’homme and Edwin van der Sar, who have all declared their support, as part of a large contingent of leading footballers.

“With his reputation and his enormous international appeal, Ruud Gullit’s appointment is of great significance for our candidacy,” explains Harry Been, CEO of The HollandBelgium Bid.
“Ruud has a tremendous football background and knowledge that we believe can be a great advantage for the Bid. During the official presentation of the candidacy to the world’s press in Cape Town in early December last year, Ruud proved himself a great ambassador. He believes in our chances and is fully behind our Bid message of ‘Together for Great Goals’, which shows how a World Cup in our countries can be of value to the rest of the world.”

Gullit and the footballers were in the company of Belgian cycle legend Eddy Merckx, Olympic Swimming Champion Pieter van den Hoogenband, tennis star Justine Henin, captain of the Dutch Women Soccer Team Daphne Koster,, and Belgian Olympic Medallist Kim Gevaert, at today’s event.

The current list of international footballers supporting the candidacy includes: Marco van Basten, Dennis Bergkamp, Regi Blinker, Gilles de Bilde, Frank de Boer, Hans van Breukelen, Jan Ceulemans, Phillip Cocu, Johan Cruyff, Eric Gerets, Georges Grün. Paul van Himst, Pierre van Hooijdonk, Rene van de Kerkhof, Willy van de Kerkhof, Patrick Kluivert, Erwin Koeman, Ronald Koeman, Ruud Krol, Wilfried Van Moer, Johan Neeskens, Luc Nilis, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Arthur Numan, Marc Overmars, Jean Marie Pfaff, Michel Preud’homme, Michael Reiziger, Edwin van der Sar, Enzo Scifo, Clarence Seedorf, Jaap Stam, Orlando Trustfull, Gert Verheyen, Marc Wilmots, Aron Winter, Rob Witschge, Richard Witschge and Ben Wijnstekers.

Achmed Hassan
Also today, Achmed Hassan, captain of the Egyptian national team, was unveiled as an ambassador of The Holland Belgium Bid. Achmed Hassan played for three years for RSC Anderlecht in Belgium and sees the joint candidacy of Belgium and the Netherlands as a strong demonstration of the role that both countries play in world football. Achmed Hassan has won three consecutive African Cup of Nations titles and has won 172 caps for his national team.
Source: The HollandBelgium Bid
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Old February 10th, 2010, 09:10 AM   #5543
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you are a DOUCHE BAG!!! JUST TRYING TO GET ATTENTION
A russian is taling about taking over the world and you complain at me?!
Seems like all the russians here belong to "Putinjugend"

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Old February 10th, 2010, 09:55 AM   #5544
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EEENNNNNNN GEEERRR LLAAANDDDD!!!! 2018
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Old February 10th, 2010, 11:01 AM   #5545
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A russian is taling about taking over the world and you complain at me?!
Seems like all the russians here belong to "Putinjugend"

Overplayed in Red Alert and overwatched corporate controlled media LOL?
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Old February 10th, 2010, 11:53 AM   #5546
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2050 Brazil
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Australia will never get it. It just not poular and im an Australian saying that. 75% of all Australian don't whant it it just Kevin Rudd whants it. Soccer sadia avage cap is 25,000 and most of the time it's have empty AFL is the best sport in Australia Go the Western Bulldogs.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 12:10 PM   #5547
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Australia will never get it. It just not poular and im an Australian saying that. 75% of all Australian don't whant it it just Kevin Rudd whants it. Soccer sadia avage cap is 25,000 and most of the time it's have empty AFL is the best sport in Australia Go the Western Bulldogs.
If you think AFL is the best sport then your point is null and void. Sorry to say but the game is as small fry on the world stage as hurling. AFL has tried to position the game has for greatness and global reach, but it has backfired greatly. The reason for that is the game does not have global appeal, as hard as they try to make it out to be otherwise. It is concentrated mainly on 1 city in Australia, which is the same city that loves just about any sport that comes its way (Melbourne).

The WC would position Football (soccer) in a new orbit, one that will likely take a while to gain rapid momentum but would allow it to come out of the shadows, both commercially and media wise, into the mainstream. Its already on its way and thats why the AFL has really caused so much trouble so far for this WC bid, its scared of losing its position at the top of the Australian sporting tree. Theres a lot of money at stake for them if they do fall from its high position in the minds of sporting fans.

The bid is too centred on NSW and Sydney more specifically unfortunately though and therefore might do itself a diservice in its own bid for the WC. It needs to spread it around more and replace this mono-centric powerbase that exists in Sydney for anything Football (soccer) related. Thats the real way of gaining ground in the supporters hearts and minds.

So, if you think that the WC wouldx not come here just because of how you see the game now, get ready to have your would flipped over and open your mind to something other than 'okka rules'. You will be better for it
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Old February 10th, 2010, 12:30 PM   #5548
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Exactly, it wouldn't be easy, but the USA didn't even have a league before they hosted in '94. The popularity of the sport and potential for growth can be worked into legacy arguments.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 02:27 PM   #5549
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Overplayed in Red Alert and overwatched corporate controlled media LOL?
Red Alert? Sure, in my youth years.

Ehhrm, a russian should perhaps not talk about media. We dont kill journalists that oppose the government...
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Old February 10th, 2010, 03:05 PM   #5550
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Red Alert? Sure, in my youth years.

Ehhrm, a russian should perhaps not talk about media. We dont kill journalists that oppose the government...
Relax. You have very stereotypical thinking, and even nationalistic.

About journalists - they are killed by neo-nazi gangs, who are opposed and who want to image "Russian leadership" as "evil dictatorship". And how many? 2-3 journalists, who can somehow had political reasons? The biggest number of killed journalists is in Iraq, where US is "spreading democracy".

Just think. What would worse the image of country - 1 journalist, who are "criticising", or worldwide hysteria about killing of this journalist? The leadership is just not interested in it. There are many books how British special services are using mercenaries to kill journalists in Russia - to worse the image, and then use it in their propaganda media to create myth that "there is no freedom of speech in Russia bla bla bla", and to allow such persons like you to use it as constant "argument" on ANY speech.

Just use brains. It' not so hard.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 03:10 PM   #5551
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Can we just get back on topic please? This is boooooooooring.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 07:21 PM   #5552
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Old February 10th, 2010, 07:24 PM   #5553
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Can we just get back on topic please? This is boooooooooring.
That's right. Stop speaking about politics and concentrate on football !!!!!
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Old February 10th, 2010, 08:42 PM   #5554
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Next country in Africa will be Morocco. We have 3 new stadiums up 45 000 opened in 2010 (Agadir, Marrakech, Tangier extainable to 69 000). And 3 stadiums already built. Casablanca 65 000, Rabat 60 000, and Fes 45 000.

International airport in each cities, highways between each cities, good hotels, and speed french train TGV (320km/h) between Tangier, Rabat and Casablanca in 2015, and planified until 2030 between all world cup cities.

We just need 3 new stadiums, and more modern hospitals.
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Next country in Africa will be Morocco. We have 3 new stadiums up 45 000 opened in 2010 (Agadir, Marrakech, Tangier extainable to 69 000). And 3 stadiums already built. Casablanca 65 000, Rabat 60 000, and Fes 45 000.

International airport in each cities, highways between each cities, good hotels, and speed french train TGV (320km/h) between Tangier, Rabat and Casablanca in 2015, and planified until 2030 between all world cup cities.

We just need 3 new stadiums, and more modern hospitals.
With FIFA rules, Morocco would need 6 more stadiums, in probably 5 cities.
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Old February 11th, 2010, 02:01 AM   #5556
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With FIFA rules, Morocco would need 6 more stadiums, in probably 5 cities.
This makes a total of 12 staduims ?? it seems to me exaggerated.

in the last bid for africa, SA got 14 against 10 for Morocco, while Egypt and Tunisia got 0 voice.

if it's africa turn again, after SA 2010, it should be in Morocco.
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If it's but it's not... To be fair, the Moroco's bid in 2010 had some problems, that could be solved with time and stadium expansion...
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This makes a total of 12 staduims ?? it seems to me exaggerated.

in the last bid for africa, SA got 14 against 10 for Morocco, while Egypt and Tunisia got 0 voice.

if it's africa turn again, after SA 2010, it should be in Morocco.
Look at this !
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affe...dcirculare.pdf

It's the rule from FIFA.
Morocco would have lots of works to do.
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Look at this !
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affe...dcirculare.pdf

It's the rule from FIFA.
Morocco would have lots of works to do.
It's written "approximatively 12 stadiums". I read all the "FIFA inspection for WC 2010" in 2003 (it is not a 2 pages documents) and FIFA talks about between 9 and 12 stadiums, and believe me since 2003 we made good job. We will hosts 10 millions tourists in 2009, we have enought hotels in all cities (Marrakesh will have more hotels bed in 2010 than Rome !), highways, international airports with open sky contract with UE (more than 1000 flight pear week to Europe) and now USA-Canada, speed-trains, tramway in 2 cities and maybe in others, big hospitals ... We are candidate for African Cup Nations 2015, and it will the better ACN never organised.

WC are since 1998? with 32 teams. In 1998, France organized the competition with 10 stadiums not 12 (Paris, Saint Denis, Lens, Nantes, Bordeaux, Toulouse, Montpellier, Marseille, Lyon, St Etienne).

We will have in 2010 6 stadiums, we need 4 stadiums maximum. A new stadium of 80 000 seats will be in Casablanca, and others in El Jadida (close new Kezner complex) and Meknes or/and Oujda.

All our stadiums are agreed by IAAF and FIFA. But for hosting a WC, they will have a small refurbished or small modification.

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This makes a total of 12 staduims ?? it seems to me exaggerated.

in the last bid for africa, SA got 14 against 10 for Morocco, while Egypt and Tunisia got 0 voice.

if it's africa turn again, after SA 2010, it should be in Morocco.
And in 1991, for WC 1998 :
France 14
Morocco 7
Switzerland 0

Imagine, in 1991 there was 70km of highways and 2 stadiums, but a lot of FIFA's responsable believed in Morocco.

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Relax. You have very stereotypical thinking, and even nationalistic.
Since when is that a bad thing?

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About journalists - they are killed by neo-nazi gangs, who are opposed and who want to image "Russian leadership" as "evil dictatorship". And how many? 2-3 journalists, who can somehow had political reasons? The biggest number of killed journalists is in Iraq, where US is "spreading democracy".

Just think. What would worse the image of country - 1 journalist, who are "criticising", or worldwide hysteria about killing of this journalist? The leadership is just not interested in it. There are many books how British special services are using mercenaries to kill journalists in Russia - to worse the image, and then use it in their propaganda media to create myth that "there is no freedom of speech in Russia bla bla bla", and to allow such persons like you to use it as constant "argument" on ANY speech.
Neo-nazi gangs and british intelligence? Not the neo-authoritarian Putin regime with his KGB-friends?
Sure...

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Haha, thanks for the tip.


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