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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 09:01 PM   #5601
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"England and America are two countries separated by a common language."

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Old February 22nd, 2010, 09:48 PM   #5602
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Hmmm. Obviously I got the wrong end of the stick with that quote....
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Old February 22nd, 2010, 10:59 PM   #5603
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I thought America was a continent. But hey! Sarah Palin believes that Africa is a country.
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Old February 23rd, 2010, 11:14 AM   #5604
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Also, calling the U.S. an "Anglo-Saxon" nation is just hilarious. Yeah at one point, about 300 years ago.
It's an anglo-saxon country culturally.

Ethnically it was up to about the 1920's.

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I thought America was a continent. But hey! Sarah Palin believes that Africa is a country.
Why are you beeing so nerdy? You know perfectly well what he means.
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Old February 23rd, 2010, 03:57 PM   #5605
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The only Anglo-Saxon thing I noticed while spending a year there was the language. But then I was in the midwest where Germans and Irish have been the main tenant since the 1800's.
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Old February 23rd, 2010, 06:56 PM   #5606
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Agree totally. I spent some time living in Kentucky and visited most of the States East of Mississippi a few years back and was surprised to find a lot of the culture and lifestyle quite alien to me. Here (UK) you grow up hearing about the similarities between Britain and the US but i now think its exaggerated at best, and possibly bogus.

Anyway, I always thought it was better to speak of the US as Germanic-Celtic rather than Anglo-Saxon. That way it includes the 3 biggest national groups and various smaller ones.
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Old February 23rd, 2010, 07:35 PM   #5607
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2018 Russia
2022 Australia
2026 England
2030 Argentine
2034 Turkey
2038 China
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Old February 23rd, 2010, 08:27 PM   #5608
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Anglo saxon in reference to the way the world perceives us/them. Whether we are realistically the same or not (I personally think the English mentality is far more European than people give us credit for).
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Old February 24th, 2010, 01:43 AM   #5609
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Yeah but it is close to a myth that there is this Anglo-Saxon world based on culture and social norms which binds the US and UK. There is an Anglophonic world, which includes all/most countries where English is the/one of the dominate languages, so including the British West Indies and parts of Africa. But like the Francophonic world, this is primarily a linguistic club with a myriad of cultures and social norms. Of course the US and UK have a lot in common, but this is a part of the wider Western World, not something even deeper that separates Britain form other North-West European countries, who along with Australia and NZ we have an even closer social and cultural makeup. Just look at how Brits and Americans view cultural and social fundamentals like religion, welfare, etc. Totally different.

I know what you mean, it just annoys me when something isn't quite true.

Anyway I don't want to hijack this thread any further so that's all i have to say.

Russia and England are the current favs for 2018. Between Oz and Uncle Sam for 2022. Think the US might nick it. Australia only just has 10 cities with a population of 200,000 or more. It would be the smallest host since Chile in 1962 and I just see the figure of China looming in the shadows (i.e. making a bid for 2026).
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Old February 24th, 2010, 09:52 AM   #5610
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is population really that much of an issue. by late 2010s to early 2020s sydney and melbourne would be around 5 million. and brisbane and perth a little below half that. the other potential host cities ae located in regions of usually 500,000+ eg. nothern queensland. newcastle is 500000 and not too far from sydney for that matter....obviosuly australia will always lose the whos bigger debate but bigger is not necessarily better
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Old February 24th, 2010, 11:02 AM   #5611
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2018 - England
2022 - USA
2026 - Australia
2030 - China
2034 - Argentina/Uraguay
2038 - Russia
2042 - Morrocco
2046 - Mexico
2050 - Japan/South Korea
2054 - Italy
2058 - UAE/Quatar/Saudi Arabia
2062 - USA
2066 - Denmark/Netherlands/Norway/Sweden/Finland?
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Old February 24th, 2010, 03:03 PM   #5612
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2018 - England
2022 - USA
2026 - Australia
2030 - China
2034 - Argentina/Uraguay
2038 - Russia
2042 - Morrocco
2046 - Mexico
2050 - Japan/South Korea
2054 - Italy
2058 - UAE/Quatar/Saudi Arabia
2062 - USA
2066 - Denmark/Netherlands/Norway/Sweden/Finland?
Can't happen FIFA has a routantion law a content can't host the world cup until after 12 years after the last games
2018 USA
2022 England
2026 Australia
2030 Argentina/Uraguay
2034 Russia Both Europe and asia can't host it untill 2046
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Old February 24th, 2010, 03:40 PM   #5613
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2018 - The Netherlands/Belgium
2022 - Australia
2026 - Mexico
2030 - England
2034 - China
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Old February 24th, 2010, 06:50 PM   #5614
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Can't happen FIFA has a routantion law a content can't host the world cup until after 12 years after the last games
nope rotation policy scrapped in 2007, any country can bid for 2018 and onwards

http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/federa...id=625122.html
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Old February 24th, 2010, 07:59 PM   #5615
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Not quite, FIFA's new rules say you can't bid for a world cup if either of the previous two tournaments have been on your continent. So 2018 can't go to Africa or South America, and if England wins 2018, for example, 2022 won't be able to go to South America or Europe.

How long this rule will last, however, God only knows!
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Old February 24th, 2010, 08:32 PM   #5616
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yeah you're right actually, i missed that bit but as you said God only knows how long it will last
realistically though Europe should host every other tournament rotating other continents in between, if you ask my opinion
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Old February 24th, 2010, 09:26 PM   #5617
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That's pretty much how it was until recently. The growth in the global game made FIFA think they could rotate around all the continents, but that was stretching it. In my opinion, every third world cup in Europe is a good compromise between recognising the global growth of the game and keeping its powerbase happy.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 05:04 PM   #5618
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FIFA reported to approve Europe-only for 2018

February 26 - Non-European nations applying to host the 2018 soccer World Cup have reportedly been told by FIFA they should drop out and concentrate on the 2022 tournament.

The U.S., Australia and Japan are officially in the race for both World Cups while Qatar have already stated they are only interested in 2022.

According to Bloomberg, sources have confirmed a FIFA unofficial mandate which would leave England, Russia and joint bids from Spain and Portugal and Holland and Belgium as the only four to compete for the 2018 World Cup.

On Feb 18, FIFA General Secretary Jerome Valcke insisted his organization wouldn’t officially call for a Europe- only bidding process.

“They need to make up their mind in terms of what they are bidding for,” Valcke said. “If, in the end, only European associations bid for 2018, then that’s their decision.”

But Australia’s football federation chairman Frank Lowy has already been quoted as saying that he has been told his country had little chance of winning the 2018 bid.

“If we have to change course, we will have the option of focusing on 2022 and, tactically, we still have plenty of time to consider that,” Lowy said.

Bloomberg quoted US bid executive director David Downs as saying he wasn’t aware aware of any Europe-only strategy but FIFA president Sepp Blatter admitted last month there was a growing movement to that effect, though later backtracking on such a stance.

If there is a European winner in 2018, the race for 2022 will be limited to the five remaining bidders from the Asian confederation plus the USA though Indonesia’s position remains unclear because of lack of financial commitments from central government.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 05:20 PM   #5619
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The IOC comes in for much criticism over its bid process, but compared to FIFA's theirs is slick and efficient and well managed. Why can't FIFA manage something like this? Why do they move the goalposts halfway through?

I'm personally of the opinion that this particular change won't make a huge difference as I've always seen this as a race between Europe and a race between the others. But it's poor that FIFA can't stick to their own rules.
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Old February 26th, 2010, 05:31 PM   #5620
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Then if that's the case I think the WC would go to either England in 2018 and the U.S. in 2022.
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