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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 06:07 PM   #5761
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Oh, so similar.

Australia:

Sydney - 4,500,000
Melbourne - 4,000,000
Brisbane - 2,000,000
Perth - 1,600,000
Adelaide - 1,200,000
Gold Coast - 600,000
Newcastle - 550,000
Canberra - 400,000
Wollongong - 300,000
Sunshine Coast - 250,000

vs.

Qatar:

Doha - 344,939
Ar Rayyān - 272,465
Umm Şalāl Muḩammad - 29,391
Al Wakrah - 26,436
Al Khawr - 18,923
Ash Shaḩānīyah - 8,380
Dukhān - 7,250
Al Wukayr - 5,146
Hawar Islands - 3,875
Ar Ru'ays - 3,334

So very similar! We believe in birth control, you should try it.

hahahahahaha from whre u get that

its wrong Mr
Doha - 344,939

any way jest to show you that is wrong
(Hawar Islands - 3,875) is part of Kingdom of Bahrain so its relat to Bahran not Qatar
thanks for participating, i think this surch take u long time to fine this wrong information
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 06:14 PM   #5762
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yes the numbers in that list are wrong, Hawar is not part of Qatar anymore and Total population is 1,600,000 now would double by 2022, the internet is so outdated unfortunately in some aspects. no one is to blame for this mistake, lets hope Qatar 2010 census that is currently being taken actually solves this issue.
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 06:21 PM   #5763
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hahahahahaha from whre u get that

its wrong Mr
Doha - 344,939

any way jest to show you that is wrong
(Hawar Islands - 3,875) is part of Kingdom of Bahrain so its relat to Bahran not Qatar
thanks for participating, i think this surch take u long time to fine this wrong information
http://www.geonames.org/QA/largest-cities-in-qatar.html
http://population.mongabay.com/population/qatar

I used them... Not my fault they're outdated.
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 06:30 PM   #5764
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What are the correct figures then? Even rough guesstimates will be fine for me.
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 06:35 PM   #5765
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What are the correct figures then? Even rough guesstimates will be fine for me.
Doha at around 800,000
Al-Wakra 100,000
Al-khor 100,000
Al-shamal 75-80,000 ??
and smaller cities would have 200,000 and the other 300,000 are industrial cities

as you said really rough guessing but newspapers in February reported that Qatar's population is 1,600,000 with 800,000 Qatari's.
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Old May 4th, 2010, 03:12 AM   #5766
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and are this 2 wed corect?
where are u from btw i will resurch and come up with a lot of wrong information about ur country if i know nothing about it
please make sure you take ur information from web approved by us or famous like BBC, CCN, Al Jajeera or any others. Please do not post anything wrong and mislead people.
maybe that statistics back to 1999 when Hwar was part of Qatar, but for sure this people which was in Hwar moved to doha lool so the number increased by 3000 please correctt the website send them an email.
thank you for taking part and participant
appreciate your try

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Old May 4th, 2010, 08:03 AM   #5767
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Australia has an advantage in that matches would be played in more pleasant weather. Both US and Qatar have a big problem in that some matches have to be played under oppressive heat. Qatar can avoid it somewhat by playing matches at around 10PM or later. I would suggest start times like 8:15 PM and 10:45 PM on match days, for example. Should they need to host three in one evening then the third one would be at 6:15 PM. Of course, I would prefer much later, like midnight football. That would mean I get to watch late afternoon where I am. But FIFA won't go for that, unfortunately.
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Old May 4th, 2010, 11:50 AM   #5768
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Well, much similar to OZ bid cities.
Minus the camouflage of Greater XXXXX City.
Piss off troll.
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Old May 4th, 2010, 12:46 PM   #5769
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It seems that the 2018 WC will be held in Europe and the 2020 WC in Asia

Blatter: 2018 World Cup in Europe deal in works
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MADRID (AP)—A deal for Europe to host the 2018 World Cup is being negotiated, FIFA president Sepp Blatter said.

England, Russia and joint bids from Spain and Portugal, and Belgium Netherlands are currently competing to host the 2018 or 2022 World Cup.

“From what I’ve discussed with the president of UEFA, Michel Platini, in the last few days in Moscow is that only a European candidate will be evaluated for the 2018 World Cup,” Blatter said from the Spanish capital on Monday. “It’s still not decided, but it’s an idea to help facilitate the work of FIFA and its executive committee.”

Australia, Japan and the United States are also bidding for either 2018 or 2022, while South Korea, Indonesia and Qatar are in the running to host the 2022 tournament only.

Blatter said candidates must submit bid documentation by May 14 and FIFA will study those in June before sending out its specialists to assess whether those nations can organize a successful World Cup.

The governing body will select the 2018 and 2022 hosts at Zurich in December.

Blatter also said that the two European joint bids had good chances of holding the tournament.

“History has shown that at the European Championships of 2000 (Belgium-Netherlands) and 2008 (Austria-Switzerland) that joint-organization can be a great success,” Blatter told Spanish media after meeting with Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero.

The Japanese Football Association has pulled out of the bidding to host the 2018 World Cup.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/8659185.stm
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The Japanese Football Association has pulled out of the bidding to host the 2018 World Cup.

However JFA president Motoaki Inukai said that they would continue with a bid to stage the 2022 tournament.

"It looks as if Fifa wants the World Cup to be held in Europe in 2018," Inukai said.

England is among the candidates for the 2018 and 2022 editions, with Fifa to announce the hosts for both tournaments in December.

"We were told European countries would be in a fierce tussle for 2018 and that aiming for 2022 would the best choice," Inukai added..

As well as England's bid, Australia, Russia, the United States and joint bids from Belgium/Netherlands and Spain/Portugal are also in the hat for both 2018 and 2022.

Among the Asian countries, Japan will face competition for 2022 from South Korea, with whom they co-hosted the 2002 tournament, and Qatar.
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Old May 4th, 2010, 02:04 PM   #5770
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OZ bid

Well, the above article reiterates what I stated with regards to the Host Nation for 2018 Event.

2022 will also be sorted out accordingly.
So Wezza, Die....,etc... a balanced mind does not loose patience upon hearing the truth.

Hence, pls stop abusive language, accept the facts and destress yourselves.
There is still a half chance for 2022.
All the best.
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Old May 4th, 2010, 02:06 PM   #5771
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Yes accept the facts. Qatar is far to small.
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Old May 4th, 2010, 02:24 PM   #5772
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Australia has an advantage in that matches would be played in more pleasant weather. Both US and Qatar have a big problem in that some matches have to be played under oppressive heat. Qatar can avoid it somewhat by playing matches at around 10PM or later. I would suggest start times like 8:15 PM and 10:45 PM on match days, for example. Should they need to host three in one evening then the third one would be at 6:15 PM. Of course, I would prefer much later, like midnight football. That would mean I get to watch late afternoon where I am. But FIFA won't go for that, unfortunately.
[*]They would never start matches as late as 10:45
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Old May 4th, 2010, 02:34 PM   #5773
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Well, the above article reiterates what I stated with regards to the Host Nation for 2018 Event.

2022 will also be sorted out accordingly.
So Wezza, Die....,etc... a balanced mind does not loose patience upon hearing the truth.

Hence, pls stop abusive language, accept the facts and destress yourselves.
There is still a half chance for 2022.
All the best.
Lol, who are you to tell me what language to use? Give me a break.

Anyone with half a brain knows we won't get 2018, it will come down between Australia & USA fro 2022.
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Old May 4th, 2010, 04:09 PM   #5774
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It seems that the 2018 WC will be held in Europe and the 2020 WC in Asia

Blatter: 2018 Football Association has pulled out of the bidding to host the 2018 World Cup.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/8659185.stm

Well, the arrangement for 2018 to be awarded Europe seems to downplay any competition for other Continent bids and evidence of FIFA's inclination towards Europe.
The FIFA premise being - Any continent which hosts the event would not get a turn to bid to host the next two tournaments.
But here it seems like restricting the competition to a specific continent alone every 3rd edition.
Under such corcumstances any aspirirng Nation would have to be at the mercy (Wait 8yrs) of the virtual rotational handover to Europe every 12th year.
This does not sound good.

Moreover, the fact that the Portugese (After Greece) economy is on the verge of collapse and ending up in defaulting debts should be considered. Will such economic conditions make Spain/Portugal a viable option? Would USA, Japan or OZ not be tougher competitors for 2018 so as to make the winner be the best among all?
FIFA has to rethink its plans may be.
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Old May 4th, 2010, 05:11 PM   #5775
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Well, the arrangement for 2018 to be awarded Europe seems to downplay any competition for other Continent bids and evidence of FIFA's inclination towards Europe.
The FIFA premise being - Any continent which hosts the event would not get a turn to bid to host the next two tournaments.
But here it seems like restricting the competition to a specific continent alone every 3rd edition.
Under such corcumstances any aspirirng Nation would have to be at the mercy (Wait 8yrs) of the virtual rotational handover to Europe every 12th year.
This does not sound good.
It's perfectly reasonable. It used to be the case that every other world cup was in Europe. Every third world cup in Europe is a good compromise between moving into new regions but keeping the powerbase happy.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 02:40 AM   #5776
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Having the world cup be in europe every 3 editions is as dumb as having the US hold it every 3 editions.

The past 20 years have been...

EUR
NA
EUR
ASIA
EUR
AFR
SA

Europe got their fair share. Next bunch should be:

NA
OCEAN* (Australia, geographically)
EUR
SA
ASIA
AFR
EUR
NA
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Old May 5th, 2010, 06:27 AM   #5777
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Having the world cup be in europe every 3 editions is as dumb as having the US hold it every 3 editions.

The past 20 years have been...

.......
AFR
EUR
NA
+1.
Moroever one has to accpet the fact that with Eurpoean Union Border Control relaxation, the world cup is held in any part country within the union can be witnessed by any other country within union and even the economic gain/lack of it can be shared within the union.
Whereas for other continents, be it Asia or SA or NA, it is not so and teh opportunity in all terms is deprived off by such a un competed awarding of the Event to Europe.

Moreover, Let us face it if not for England, Russia, Germany or (Italy some extent) not many European countries can stand alone as hosts adhering to the stringent FIFA stds. Issues like travel btwn these countries/language differences for other continent guys while travelling and other logistics would mean it would be difficult for joint European bids.
Ex: Spanish in Spain & Portugese in Portugal simple example.
Korea Japan was a one off thing to avoid bitter rivalry.
Let us not make it a rule.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 04:03 PM   #5778
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Having the world cup be in europe every 3 editions is as dumb as having the US hold it every 3 editions.

The past 20 years have been...

EUR
NA
EUR
ASIA
EUR
AFR
SA

Europe got their fair share. Next bunch should be:

NA
OCEAN* (Australia, geographically)
EUR
SA
ASIA
AFR
EUR
NA
Europe is where the most football fans are, where the most potential World Cup hosts are and deserves 1 in every 3 World Cups. Think about how many countries are really potential World Cup hosts:

Europe:
England
Germany
France
Spain
Italy
Russia

Asia:
Japan
Korea
China
Australia

North America:
USA
Canada
Mexico

South America:
Brazil
Maybe Uruguay/Argentina/Chile - some sort of joint bid between a couple of these

Africa:
South Africa

Sure other countries could potentially get it one day, but these are probably going to be outsiders at least for a while. It makes sense to me to alternate between Europe, the Americas and the "Rest of the World".

Out of the 16 potential hosts I named, this splits them up fairly evenly:

Europe - 6
Americas - 5
Others - 5

Meaning the rotation is likely to be shared around fairly evenly between the potential hosts.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 07:23 PM   #5779
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I hope everything goes alright in 2010 so that South Africa proves that medium-sized underdeveloped countries can still host the WC. A successful 2010 WC would be great for the hosting aspirations of countries like Turkey, Argentina, Colombia, Ukraine, Poland and Egypt.
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So, tell me, how often should Europe host in your opinion antriksh_sfo?
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