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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 07:38 PM   #6081
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Yes, they need to look past the Treisman situation. I was worried that would kill our bid but England 2018 dealt with it very well, virtually everyone sided against the Daily Mail, and Platini and Blatter have both been making positive noises about England since by all accounts.

I think Russia offers something new for FIFA, but is it new and exciting enough? I mean to say, FIFA can't overlook traditional footballing countries every cycle in the hunt for new markets and new money. They need to keep traditional footballing powers on side. If we assume it's between Russia and England (which may well be a wrong assumption) then FIFA has a really tough choice in my opinion.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 08:42 PM   #6082
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Russia. Why? Because WC will give powerful spur to infrastructure development: building of new modern arenas, a construction of roads, hotels, the airports, railway stations, inflow of tourists, qualitatively other image of Russia as the countries.
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 08:56 PM   #6083
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I hope 2 of the founders of the Fifa organisation (wich Netherlands and Belgium are) may host the world cup in 2018. The other 5 founders are Denmark, France, Spain, Sweden and Switserland.

Fifa, it's time to make the right choice, and that is Netherland and Belgium in 2018!!
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Old May 22nd, 2010, 09:34 PM   #6084
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Russia was a footballing wilderness until a few years ago.
EURO:
1960 #1
1964 #2
1968 #4
1972 #2
1988 #2
2008 #3

Russia has a perspective to turn back their positions in football in period of Yashin, Ponedelnik, Netto, Blokhin, Dasayev...

Luzhniki has plastic pitch because of angle of sun rays.

Russia is #4 currently in Futsal World ranking after Brasil, Spain and Italy. Futsal teams are constant leaders in Europe.
Beach football team played in Final in 2005 Euro Beach Soccer Cup, 2009 Champions in Euro Beach Soccer League.

It's more than just a country without football traditions, it has and huge.

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Old May 22nd, 2010, 09:36 PM   #6085
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England for me, probably just because Wembley looks more beautiful everytime I look at it.
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 02:33 AM   #6086
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London's Olympic Stadium in football mode for the 2018 World Cup. 80,000 seats:



The neighbouring park would make this a great World Cup venue.
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 03:11 AM   #6087
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The Olympic Stadium in football mode looks almost identical to the MCG in 'football mode'.

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Old May 23rd, 2010, 03:16 AM   #6088
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If anything the Olympic Stadium stands look closer to the pitch!
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 03:42 AM   #6089
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2018- England
2022- Australia
2026+ Dont care xD...

Australia better get 2022...
Why do you think USA will get 2018?
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 05:58 AM   #6090
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If anything the Olympic Stadium stands look closer to the pitch!
That's because the London Olympic Stadium's football pitch and goal posts scale is deliberately deceiving. The Olympic stadium will be around 186m/190m in length as the MCG is 172m. Clearly it doesn't add up.
The MCG pic is accurate while the Olympic Stadium pic is distorted to satisfy the fans that it is not as big as it really is.

The widths look about right.
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 09:05 AM   #6091
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That's because the London Olympic Stadium's football pitch and goal posts scale is deliberately deceiving. The Olympic stadium will be around 186m/190m in length as the MCG is 172m. Clearly it doesn't add up.
The MCG pic is accurate while the Olympic Stadium pic is distorted to satisfy the fans that it is not as big as it really is.

The widths look about right.
Very good point. One thing that continues to come up though is the rectangularisation of the MCG for the bid. Is that even in the bid book or is it wishful thinking?

The fact that an image is posted on the website that has no alterations at all makes me believe it is wishful thinking. Some sort of moderisation would be great though, with movable seating atleast on 1 side, preferably both sides of the ground. The ends can stay as they are, as that could get more complex.
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 12:43 PM   #6092
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england 2018
australia 2022
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 02:02 PM   #6093
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The pitch in the Olympic Stadium might just be really big! You'd think it would make sense to have the biggest pitch size possible in such a large bowl. I know it will have been warped to satisfy the 2018 bid, and I hope the seats aren't black, also.
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 02:17 PM   #6094
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The seats will be black and white patterned, confirmed last week. Someone posted some diagrams of the stadium in football mode a couple of weeks ago and it was a tight fit, I don't think the renders are far wrong:



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http://beard.standard.co.uk/2010/03/...c-stadium.html

London's stadium is a much tighter bowl than past Olympic stadiums.

Though, when all is said and done, I'd still prefer a stadium designed completely for football (i.e. the New White Hart Lane) to host. While the Olympic stadium will be better than other athletics stadiums as a football venue, it still isn't ideal.

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Old May 23rd, 2010, 02:37 PM   #6095
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Oh look it's Matthew list again
Austraila is a Oceania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oceania
Oceania is a region
Australia is the continent...
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 04:05 PM   #6096
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Quote:
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EURO:
1960 #1
1964 #2
1968 #4
1972 #2
1988 #2
2008 #3

Russia has a perspective to turn back their positions in football in period of Yashin, Ponedelnik, Netto, Blokhin, Dasayev...

Luzhniki has plastic pitch because of angle of sun rays.

Russia is #4 currently in Futsal World ranking after Brasil, Spain and Italy. Futsal teams are constant leaders in Europe.
Beach football team played in Final in 2005 Euro Beach Soccer Cup, 2009 Champions in Euro Beach Soccer League.

It's more than just a country without football traditions, it has and huge.
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WC 1966#4
Konstantin Yeryomenko is the russian futsal player who was named the greatest futsal player of the 20th century!
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 05:48 PM   #6097
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2018 - anyone but England
2022 - Australia or USA (providing any legacy stadiums are for USL/NASL teams)
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 07:41 PM   #6098
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EURO:
1960 #1
1964 #2
1968 #4
1972 #2
1988 #2
2008 #3

Russia has a perspective to turn back their positions in football in period of Yashin, Ponedelnik, Netto, Blokhin, Dasayev...

Luzhniki has plastic pitch because of angle of sun rays.

Russia is #4 currently in Futsal World ranking after Brasil, Spain and Italy. Futsal teams are constant leaders in Europe.
Beach football team played in Final in 2005 Euro Beach Soccer Cup, 2009 Champions in Euro Beach Soccer League.

It's more than just a country without football traditions, it has and huge.
If you go that way in kind of Football Portugal as a natilnal don't have big achievements (only 2º place in Euro 04 and 3rd and 4th Place in WC 1966 and 2006). But in Beach Soccer we are one of the top 3 nationals. In football teams we are 4 times CL winners (2 time FC Porto and 2 time SL Benfica that lost more finals). In Futsal SL Benfica is the current Uefa Futsal Cup Winner and we are the vice-champions of Europe in Nationals. If I join more the results of Spain who you think would win by that way?
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 08:38 PM   #6099
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Old May 23rd, 2010, 09:25 PM   #6100
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As commented earlier, the host choice of a FIFA World Cup is not about stadiums. However, stadium-wise, Australia's bid is really underwhelming. FIFA will certainly have objections regarding the oval stadiums, especially MCG.

All Brazilian ovals apart from Beira-Rio will get their fields lowered in order to bring the stands closer to the action. Even Maracanã had their project rejected because of it. This is, by the way, a pre-requisite for the opening game, final and semifinals: as widely discussed in the Brazilian forum, FIFA sells the lower-tier seats for the highest prices, which is why they need them to be close to the field. That's the reason why Jerome Valcke will certainly have problems with the MCG project and any other stadium that expects to host quarterfinals and beyond.

One thing that I noticed in our preparation is that the exigences are much lower to stadiums that will host only up to the Round of 16. All our stadiums will be roofed, but that's not even necessary to half of the cities. FIFA approves pretty much any decent stadium with 40.000+ capacity. The problem is the stadiums that will host quarterfinals and beyond, which need to be pretty much perfect.
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