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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old May 26th, 2010, 07:44 PM   #6161
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I think the rankings and the numbers are a bit questionable to be honest, but the qualitative analysis below them is excellent.
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Old May 26th, 2010, 08:03 PM   #6162
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Even some of that was a load of rubbish, I thought. Australia marked down in at least 3 categories for the code clash, which is already sorted? And way to misinterpret the 'lucky country' comment.

I'll agree with england as #1 but thats about it.
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Old May 26th, 2010, 10:04 PM   #6163
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England!
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Old May 26th, 2010, 11:07 PM   #6164
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No reason to believe the economy will still be in a sticky patch by 2018, and nor does that preclude hosting a big event anyway. Don't forget the preparations for the 2012 Olympics have been ongoing throughout the recession, and have been going well despite it. Besides which, our world cup bid uses mostly existing stadiums and those which aren't existing are built by the clubs, not the government.
Economy could be better and worse and it's uncertainty is bad for candidacy.
But England did not get only a summer Olympic 2012 but the Rugby World Cup , union and league. And rugby union WC is important and watched. Also know that there were problems with the ways of financing Olympics in 2009.
I think it is good that Russia receives organization of WC 2018. There are several reasons:
1. People from west explore Russian culture. Decades the Cold War created a great russophobia in the west. The best way to stop it is that people explore Russia and meet people. As an example of St Petersburg. One of the most beautiful cities in the world with a huge history and incredible Hermitage museum. How many people know that the Hermitage Museum has the largest collection of paintings in the world? Picasso, Rubens, Rembrandt, Matisse, Leonardo da Vinci...Or to meet place where created Dostoyevsky or Tchaikovsky and so on.
2. Prejudice. I saw that someone wrote that there is nothing in Russia except Moscow and St. Petersburg. Do you know that the Nizhny Novgorod one of most important historical Russian cities? I will not tell the reason, I hope that Russia will get the World Cup in 2018 and you will find out.
It is a closed city during the Soviet Union but that does not mean that there is nothing there.
This is just one example. What to say about the Volgograd (Stalingrad)? Would not you like to see the place of greatest battle of the Second World War? Or get to know the city where born Immanuel Kant?
3. Russia has a tradition in football. Not only national team that was european champion. USSR and Russian clubs won several titles in european competitions.
Russia has a lot to offer, it is not evil empire.
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Old May 26th, 2010, 11:46 PM   #6165
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Look, if you guys want to have a REAL world cup....ya gotta do it in America.

We still hold the records for attendance and money even though we didn't even have a soccer league when we held it and there were less teams and less games!

Now we have many more super stadiums already built and more on the way.

How can we be ignored?
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Old May 27th, 2010, 12:01 AM   #6166
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How can we be ignored?
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Old May 27th, 2010, 12:05 AM   #6167
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Look, if you guys want to have a REAL world cup....ya gotta do it in America.

We still hold the records for attendance and money even though we didn't even have a soccer league when we held it and there were less teams and less games!

Now we have many more super stadiums already built and more on the way.

How can we be ignored?
Well, I think many would dispute the idea that a world cup in America - a country where football is the fifth sport at best - would be more REAL than in any other country. Because, to be perfectly honest, if the US' national sport didn't happen to share a similar sized pitch to football, the country would be in much the same position as Australia.

It's because of this happy coincidence, rather than a wide-spread and deep rooted passion for the Game, that the US can offer FIFA record attendences and revenue. That's not to say the US shouldn't make the most of this point, or that FIFA should ignore it and not take it into account, but big stadiums which are built mainly for another sport doesn't make the prospect of a US world cup more real or more enticing for your average fan.
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Old May 27th, 2010, 12:18 AM   #6168
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Well, I think many would dispute the idea that a world cup in America - a country where football is the fifth sport at best - would be more REAL than in any other country. Because, to be perfectly honest, if the US' national sport didn't happen to share a similar sized pitch to football, the country would be in much the same position as Australia.

It's because of this happy coincidence, rather than a wide-spread and deep rooted passion for the Game, that the US can offer FIFA record attendences and revenue. That's not to say the US shouldn't make the most of this point, or that FIFA should ignore it and not take it into account, but big stadiums which are built mainly for another sport doesn't make the prospect of a US world cup more real or more enticing for your average fan.
Why? As long as the venue has good sightlines and is a modern, comfortable place to be...what else matters?

Surely American stadiums have better sight lines than do those big round stadiums in Australia. Not to mention, unlike Australia, we don't have to interrupt sports leagues that are in the middle of their season.

We win.
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Old May 27th, 2010, 12:33 AM   #6169
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Why? As long as the venue has good sightlines and is a modern, comfortable place to be...what else matters?

Surely American stadiums have better sight lines than do those big round stadiums in Australia. Not to mention, unlike Australia, we don't have to interrupt sports leagues that are in the middle of their season.

We win.
If it was any other country you were competing against I might agree with you, but the prospect of an Australian world cup, even in stadiums which may be inferior to what the US can offer, excites me more than a US world cup so soon after their last tournament. Ozzie sports fans are some of the best in the world and they put on the best Olympics of my lifetime. I hope they're given a shot at the world cup (after us in 2018, of course).

And of course, America will always be able to offer bigger stadiums than everyone else, possibly with better sightlines. That's a given. That isn't, and nor should it be, a trump card, otherwise no nation would ever win a world cup bid if America is also in the race!

Besides which, didn't Chicago 2016 offer much the same argument to the IOC only a few months ago only to be beaten by a city that had never hosted before? Technically superior bids don't always win; there are other, more intangible factors which are always in play when hosts of events like this are chosen.
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Why? As long as the venue has good sightlines and is a modern, comfortable place to be...what else matters?

Surely American stadiums have better sight lines than do those big round stadiums in Australia. Not to mention, unlike Australia, we don't have to interrupt sports leagues that are in the middle of their season.

We win.
You guys already had WC in 94. I think it is time to give it to Australia or someone else who didn't have it yet...
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Old May 27th, 2010, 11:33 AM   #6171
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Old May 27th, 2010, 01:39 PM   #6172
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Next week a "Live" poll will be started.

Each day voting will open, and close after 24 hours. The country with the least amount of votes will be eliminated. Voting will open the next day for the remaining candidates until host country wins the majority of the votes.

The process will begin with 2018 and then proceed with the remaining countries, for the 2022 bids, following FIFA's rotation policy currently in place.

Voting will be in the form of a secret vote.
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Old May 27th, 2010, 03:04 PM   #6173
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I think the rankings and the numbers are a bit questionable to be honest, but the qualitative analysis below them is excellent.
Will these results translate into votes?
If yes then guys b ready for one big mistake Qatar WC
Wish some sanity prevails n hopefully money does not win
Well IOC report for 2012 had put Paris ahead of London
What follwed is just history


Wish som
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Old May 27th, 2010, 03:12 PM   #6174
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You need a new thread... >.>
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Old May 27th, 2010, 03:16 PM   #6175
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This report is nothing official. Just a website creating its own index.
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Old May 27th, 2010, 09:31 PM   #6176
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Old May 28th, 2010, 11:45 AM   #6177
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2018 England
2022 USA
2026 Australia
2030 Argentina and Uruguay
2034 Italy
2038 Japan
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Old May 28th, 2010, 11:51 AM   #6178
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Seriously, can you stop with the lists?
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Old May 28th, 2010, 02:24 PM   #6179
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Seriously, can you stop with the lists?
Why isn't he banned yet? Not he even started to open threads for his nonsense
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Old May 28th, 2010, 05:38 PM   #6180
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Why? As long as the venue has good sightlines and is a modern, comfortable place to be...what else matters?

Surely American stadiums have better sight lines than do those big round stadiums in Australia. Not to mention, unlike Australia, we don't have to interrupt sports leagues that are in the middle of their season.

We win.
While one or two Australia stadiums will be round ones most will be rugby league stadiums with close, high pitch seating and good atmosphere.

Who cares that we have to interrupt sports leagues that are in the middle of their season. They have agreed in writing and handed over their stadiums so it's a done deal.

Australia has almost 5 times more fans per capita at this years world cup than the USA so it could be argued the atmosphere will be better outside the stadiums in Australia as well. The average aussie would be far more excited than the average american to hold the football world cup and that would make it more exciting for our visitors as well.

Would the US use some of those tiny NFL pitches that they used in the last US world cup where it looked like football was being played on a billiards table?

You also will not have to be photographed, fingerprinted and scowled at to attend an Australian world cup

"is a modern, comfortable place to be...what else matters? "....the fact that you asked this should disqualify you from holding a world cup

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