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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old July 9th, 2010, 02:27 AM   #6341
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I've been to games in Russia.

Police? Hah! They bring the army in. Hundreds of them. I went to a match in St Petersburg and wondered if a military coup had taken place. I'm not sure if there even were any away fans that day.
Problem is, this is the 21st century and FIFA won't take kindly to the idea that Russian army units, with no understanding of the dynamics of football crowds, could be left in charge of security at World Cup matches.

You need experienced professionals who know how to prevent trouble starting and how to bring it under control peacefully, and with as little injury to all involved, if it ever should kick off. You don't need trigger happy army recruits!
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Old July 9th, 2010, 02:31 AM   #6342
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Nonsese Jim, can't you see these fine gentlemen are having a friendly exchange of views?
Indeed.

As you say, just a friendly exchange of views. There have never been any hooligans in Russia ever. Not one.........not a single, ickle hooligan in the whole of Russia's history. They are all peace loving paragons of virtue.
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Old July 9th, 2010, 02:38 AM   #6343
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FIFA will do what they want. If they want Russia, then they'll stick to their out-dated stereotype of English hooligans and use it as an excuse. Poland and Ukraine have pretty bad hooligan problems but UEFA have let them stage 2012.
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Old July 9th, 2010, 09:21 AM   #6344
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FIFA will do what they want. If they want Russia, then they'll stick to their out-dated stereotype of English hooligans and use it as an excuse. Poland and Ukraine have pretty bad hooligan problems but UEFA have let them stage 2012.
Absolutely agree. I still remember how in 1999, during UEFA Cup match between Wisla Krakow (Polish champion) and FC Parma a knife was thrown by a Wisla fan from the stands. The knife hit Italian international Dino Baggio who required 5 stitches to a head wound. As result Wisła being suspended from European cup play for a year.

I know about similar incidents during international marches in Italy, Spain, England. Do you know at least one incident during international match in Russia? Or, may be, during other non-football sport international competition in Russia?
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Old July 9th, 2010, 09:25 AM   #6345
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Problem is, this is the 21st century and FIFA won't take kindly to the idea that Russian army units, with no understanding of the dynamics of football crowds, could be left in charge of security at World Cup matches.

You need experienced professionals who know how to prevent trouble starting and how to bring it under control peacefully, and with as little injury to all involved, if it ever should kick off. You don't need trigger happy army recruits!
Yes, I remember it. Similar accusations for Russian police have been in the British press before CL2008 final. However, the guards worked professionally.

And you will tell me after this that the Brits ignored the press?
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Old July 9th, 2010, 10:29 AM   #6346
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Nonsese Jim, can't you see these fine gentlemen are having a friendly exchange of views?

Good video. Spartak forewer!
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Old July 9th, 2010, 10:44 AM   #6347
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Be honest, after 2 Finals (1974, 1978) and three semi-finals (1974, 1978, 1998).
To be honest 1 WC (2010), 3 Finals ('74, '78 and 2010) and 4 semi Finals ('74, '78, '98 and 2010)
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Old July 9th, 2010, 12:05 PM   #6348
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To be honest 1 WC (2010), 3 Finals ('74, '78 and 2010) and 4 semi Finals ('74, '78, '98 and 2010)
Agreed.
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Old July 9th, 2010, 12:59 PM   #6349
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South Africa and England have both hosted the rugby, cricket and football world cup.
South Africa in 16 years, England in 26 years.
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Old July 9th, 2010, 02:17 PM   #6350
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Absolutely agree. I still remember how in 1999, during UEFA Cup match between Wisla Krakow (Polish champion) and FC Parma a knife was thrown by a Wisla fan from the stands. The knife hit Italian international Dino Baggio who required 5 stitches to a head wound. As result Wisła being suspended from European cup play for a year.

I know about similar incidents during international marches in Italy, Spain, England. Do you know at least one incident during international match in Russia? Or, may be, during other non-football sport international competition in Russia?
Go on then........tell us, oh perfect, angelic, all-knowing one, about these incidents involving England fans throwing knives at footballers.
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Old July 9th, 2010, 02:21 PM   #6351
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Yes, I remember it. Similar accusations for Russian police have been in the British press before CL2008 final. However, the guards worked professionally.

And you will tell me after this that the Brits ignored the press?
Err.............what accusations? I haven't made any accusations. Try reading what I wrote again.

I repeat, it is far better to use police who are highly experienced and trained in football crowd control than army units that are trained for combat. No sensible person would argue against that.
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Old July 9th, 2010, 02:41 PM   #6352
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To be honest 1 WC (2010), 3 Finals ('74, '78 and 2010) and 4 semi Finals ('74, '78, '98 and 2010)
P.S. Last year, when Russian team didn't qualified on World Cup, I wrote to my Dutch colleague that Netherlands has no any barriers on the road to victory at World Cup anymore.
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Old July 9th, 2010, 02:53 PM   #6353
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Go on then........tell us, oh perfect, angelic, all-knowing one, about these incidents involving England fans throwing knives at footballers.
He's making it up as he goes along Jim.
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Old July 9th, 2010, 03:45 PM   #6354
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P.S. Last year, when Russian team didn't qualified on World Cup, I wrote to my Dutch colleague that Netherlands has no any barriers on the road to victory at World Cup anymore.
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Old July 9th, 2010, 04:13 PM   #6355
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He's making it up as he goes along Jim.
Surely not????

Only the English would do such a thing!
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Old July 9th, 2010, 04:20 PM   #6356
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Quote from the Guardian, sorry i cant paste that link for reasons only Paul Allen is aware of...


by Barry Glenndenning
Hold the press, news just in, CANADA, yes CANADA launches a late but apparently accepted bid to FIFA for the right to host the 2022 World Cup.

The bid was supported, organised almost single handedly and delivered personally by son of semi professional and brother of professional footballer, Steve Nash. Nash is a two time MVP in the NBA, who plays as point guard for middling team Phoenix Suns. The Suns have never managed to reach the play off finals which makes the achievements of this relatively diminutive six foot, 11 stone canadian all the more immpressive. Nash who was also born in South Africa was head of the Canadian delegation that also included the Prime minister and Marcel Trudeau son of Pierre, among others.

The Guardian was at the impromptu press conferenceheld by CBS sports which laid out the bid in detail. http://www.youtube.com/user/CBSSports#p/u/4/mS_Qi8TB3v4
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Old July 9th, 2010, 04:28 PM   #6357
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^

No they aren't.
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Old July 9th, 2010, 04:33 PM   #6358
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watch the bid.
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Old July 9th, 2010, 04:39 PM   #6359
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Canada ??
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Old July 9th, 2010, 04:47 PM   #6360
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watch the bid.
Give me a link.
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