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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 02:43 PM   #621
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but okay i will stop discussing... Turkey Greece? forget about it!
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 03:13 PM   #622
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but okay i will stop discussing... Turkey Greece? forget about it!
Ok you do that
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 03:41 PM   #623
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Ok you do that
you don't, or you're gonna keep on dreaming?
you do that, it's time for a little siesta anyway (unless when you live in Greece then you must wait a little hour more)
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:17 PM   #624
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Hmm, I used to be a bit like you. Immature.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:21 PM   #625
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Hmm, I used to be a bit like you. Immature.
Thankgod your not anymore!
The last thing we need is more skas!
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:21 PM   #626
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that was a long long long , looooooooooooooooongggggg time ago!
you guys, good luck with discusing, I am of to the three tires thread, druling from pictures of nice stadiums, very immature
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:22 PM   #627
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that was a long long long , looooooooooooooooongggggg time ago!
you guys, good luck with discusing, I am of to the three tires thread, druling from pictures of nice stadiums, very immature
Ok cool, dont come back!
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:26 PM   #628
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Ok cool, dont come back!
Couldn't agree more!
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:28 PM   #629
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is it immature to have one more reply??? this def. is.

But guys back to the subject do you believe in a Greece/Turkey WC 2018?
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:30 PM   #630
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is it immature to have one more reply??? this def. is.

But guys back to the subject do you believe in a Greece/Turkey WC 2018?
Yes, it is.

And I doubt a Greece/Turkey bid will be picked, but I also doubt a Spain/Portugal bid will be either.

And how YOU can call ME a weirdo is beyond me.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 04:31 PM   #631
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is it possible to remodel those stadia to remove the athletics tracks?
yea it is possible.. In the Berlin Olympic stadium, they expanded the green grass and overlapped the racing tracks.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 06:10 PM   #632
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i am against joined bids
turkey or greece can host it alone if they want....i think they will both be ready by 2020....
and yes i agree that they should try for euro first(alone of course)
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 06:34 PM   #633
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i am against joined bids
turkey or greece can host it alone if they want....i think they will both be ready by 2020....
and yes i agree that they should try for euro first(alone of course)

I agree. I would not want a joint bid with Turkey.

Also, Greece hosted one of the best Olympic Games in history. Security, planning, venue location, etc., was superb. As a sporting event the Olympics are even bigger in scale than the World Cup so we know Greece can handle this type of tournament logistically speaking.

That being said, the World Cup requires many "true" footyball stadiums of which Greece currently does not possess. Let's be realistic because that is the case as we speak.

However, with new stadiums on the horizon for AEK Athens and Panathinaikos and the expansion of Olympiakos' Karaiskaki stadium if Greece was awarded the tournament, Greece would be able to host the games by 2020 if it built one or two other stadiums for the tournament.

We would have teh following stadia to choose from:

OAKA (Olympic Stadium)
Karaiskaki (would be expanded with an additional tier)
AEK Athens
Panathinakos
New Stadium #1
New Stadium #2
Toumba in Thessaloniki if expaned
PanCretan in Iraklio, Crete if expanded.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 07:33 PM   #634
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First and above all, we are talking about a lapse of 12 years!!! In 12 years everything changes.

Security issues in the UK? you are moving nowadays political issues to the long run future, are you expecting to still have war gainst terr in 12 years? I think in that span of time things have already changed and peace will prevail and the terrorist will be already neutralized.

As for the two countries bids I'm not that fond on that kind of double nations events. As far as world cups concerns the Japan-Korea one was the most boring one, I prefer the mono-national bids. Of course my vote goes to Greece.

As for the venues, I think in 12 years we are able to build and expand more state of the art stadiums. As for the number of people there're 50,000-60,000 audience already running in Germany.

Finally as for how much Greece will be prepared for that date, well let me tell you that much better than in 2004, and we had the greatest games ever so it will be much more than ready for 2018.

Both the transportation system in Greece is becoming day by day better and by that date it will be among the best in Europe. (Currently it's the country in Europe that is building the highest number of highways kms). The highspeed 250/300 kms/h train will be already connecting the PATHE (Patra-Athens-Thessaloniki) corridor (actually that will be ready in 2-4 years at the latest), which is part of the main central European vertical axis (Berlin-Munich-Vienna-Budapest-Belgrade-Thessaloniki-Athens) as well as other new railways lines are proposed by 2015.

Many Airports are being buit/expanded by that time:

Athens: Plans to expand it to 50 million are already proposed
Thessaloniki: By 2012 the Airport expansion will be ready and an airport of 20 millions is expected.
Heraklion: A new 12 millions airport is under construction due to be ready by 2012
Ionannina: The new airport expansion is already underway
Rhodes: An airport expansion is proposed though I don't have much info on this one.
As well as other tens of airports are planned to be refurbished/built all around the nation.

The new state-of-the-art Metro system in Thessaloniki will be ready by 2012 and by 2018 the second and third lines of it will be commissioned as well.

The Athens Metro by that time will cover a distance of 150kms and adding to it the suburban system more than 500kms will serve daily in the 5 millions metropolis (at this pace due to reach the 6 millions by that time).

Finally other minor but no less important works are being done in other areas, like great luxurious hotels, bed and breakfasts, etc popping up all around the country, bridges and tunnels, etc.

I think Greece by 2018 will be much more than ready to hold a venue like this and I think a website should be done about this with a petition poll or something like that in order to back the proposition and present it to the FIFA.

I think UK also is a great place for the WC but don't forget that London Olympics are due to be held in 2012 and the time difference is too short (that doesn't mean of course that it happened on other occasions (LA 1984 Olympics-US WC 1994-Atlanta 1996 come to mind) but shouldn't be that way.

By 2018 14 years have been passed from Athens games.


So let's go Greece for a 2018 World Cup
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 07:38 PM   #635
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i think patra deserves one big stadium,around 40,000....it will have the right amount of population by 2018 to fill such a stadium
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 07:56 PM   #636
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world cup is too big but a join bid would work but i dont see this will happen, Greece or Turkey should try to host the euro insted, its more suitable.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 09:14 PM   #637
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Turkey/Greece bid sounds like a good idea...but I'd definately suggest each country host a European Championship first. Just in order to unpgrade stadia and infrastructure at the first stage, and then further for the world cup, (stage 2).

Of course, more stadia would be needed, but the idea of removing the athlectics track/lowering the pitch at the Ataturk Olympic Stadium sounds like such a good idea!

That, coupled with closed ends, like Secan said it could be 115,000! Woah, imagine that.

World Cup final in front of 115,000 people!

BTW: Who's gonna host '14 then?
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Security issues in the UK? you are moving nowadays political issues to the long run future, are you expecting to still have war gainst terr in 12 years? I think in that span of time things have already changed and peace will prevail and the terrorist will be already neutralized.
Lets hope!
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 09:32 PM   #639
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I think UK also is a great place for the WC but don't forget that London Olympics are due to be held in 2012 and the time difference is too short (that doesn't mean of course that it happened on other occasions (LA 1984 Olympics-US WC 1994-Atlanta 1996 come to mind) but shouldn't be that way.

By 2018 14 years have been passed from Athens games.


So let's go Greece for a 2018 World Cup
I dont think it should be about the time difference, it should be about the quality of the bid. Lets face it, London had the best bid for 2012, that's why it won. If it has the best bid for 2018, it should rightfully win that too. If a bid ups londons for 2018, then London doesn't deserve it. Thats how I see it.
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Old June 22nd, 2006, 09:45 PM   #640
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yes, and London dealt with it better than any country could have,
Try telling that to the mother of that innocent Brazilian guy.
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Americans have said it themselves England dealt better with 7/7 than the Americans dealt with 9/11. Obviously it was ona very different scale, but you get the picture.
I hope it doesn't happen, but unfortunately I think we're in for a security nightmare in London. Govts may have to prepare travel warnings.
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The day after the attack everyone was back to work, the British public isnt scared of terrorists, they are scum. England may be the biigest target for an attack, but we are VERY well prepared to deal with it.

ENGLAND 2018!
No doubt terrorists are scum, but unfortunately nothing can guarantee they won't act. We have to get to the root of the problem to really stop it.
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