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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old September 16th, 2010, 01:12 AM   #6821
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Does anyone know if the reports on the inspection visits are usually leaked out? I know FIFA doesn't release them, but do we usually get an idea of what each of them say from the executive committee leaking out some info?
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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:39 AM   #6822
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FIFA inspection leader Harold Mayne-Nicholls urged U.S. bid leaders Thursday to reconsider the legacy aspect of their efforts to win the 2018 or 2022 World Cup.

“In case you will be awarded to host the event, we would also need a strong focus on international legacy, not only on a domestic one,” Mayne-Nicholls said in one of two atypically pointed remarks.


“Please let me add that there might be in a later stage additional needs for public transportation to cater to foreign fans,” he said without elaborating further.


http://www.worldfootballinsider.com/Story.aspx?id=33708
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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:42 AM   #6823
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Welcome back. South Africa for 2018.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:47 AM   #6824
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The fields at all potential sites can be widened to meet international standards if the U.S. is awarded either the 2018 or 2022 tournament, FIFA's World Cup inspectors were assured this week. The fields at NFL stadiums are generally smaller than the 75 yards FIFA prefers,

"We've assured them that we will get to FIFA international dimensions -- and in a cost-effective way," U.S. Soccer President Sunil Gulati said Friday. "And, if for any reason that was an issue, we have alternatives."


"We did have some private conversations on things that I thought we could make improvements in," Gulati said. "We had a frank discussion about government guarantees, those sorts of issues. Security is an issue for everyone and that's true for any major international event.


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Old September 16th, 2010, 06:33 AM   #6825
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“In case you will be awarded to host the event, we would also need a strong focus on international legacy, not only on a domestic one,” Mayne-Nicholls said in one of two atypically pointed remarks.

http://www.worldfootballinsider.com/Story.aspx?id=33708
God knows if that is a direct quote but if it is, can someone explain it to me?
Isn't international legacy FIFA's job, not the USA's or any other bid?

What would that international legacy have to be?
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:18 AM   #6826
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God knows if that is a direct quote but if it is, can someone explain it to me?
Isn't international legacy FIFA's job, not the USA's or any other bid?

What would that international legacy have to be?
Good question. I think Mr. Nicholls was being inarticulate in that regard because he seemed to qualify his statement about transportation for foreign visitors.

No, Mr. Nicholls the USA bid cities will TOTALLY ignore the foreign visitors and either have them walk to the stadia or be forced to catch taxis at jacked-up rates.

Duh!! OF COURSE, the travel needs of visitors will be dealt with.

And some of the US cities' mass transport systems are NO worse than what South Africa offered or Brazil will offer in 4 years' time...so I don't know what this Chilean is talking about??

They are such frickin' fault-finders.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:21 AM   #6827
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The few venues that do have a lack of public transportation to the stadium right now are either i the midst of building it or they will use buses during the Cup to transport people so anyone in the city will have no problem at all taking public transportation to matches. I have no idea what he's going on about.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 02:31 PM   #6828
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God knows if that is a direct quote but if it is, can someone explain it to me?
Isn't international legacy FIFA's job, not the USA's or any other bid?

What would that international legacy have to be?
No, the legacy of the bid should be attained by the hosts. Please refer to the Australian bid video for clues.

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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:12 PM   #6829
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Jeez, it's not easy having to watch Nicole Kidman's botoxed mug for 5 min.

Alright so your refering to contributions to Asia and Oceania.
I'm sorry, I just assumed that every bid would naturally have a similar agenda. So does that mean that Mr Nicholls does not believe that the US bid is giving enough back to CONCACAF?
It's already pretty well developed for Soccer. So Mr Nicholls want the US to splash out more on the Caribbean. Canadian teams are already joining the MLS. What else can they really do.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:19 PM   #6830
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I'm with the Wall, I have no idea what this "International Legacy" the US is supposed to be delivering is
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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:23 PM   #6831
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Presumably something more like this:

http://www.england2018bid.com/ourgoals/global-impact/

You may well say that should be up to FIFA alone, but if other bids are offering to set up, or in England's case increase their international development programmes and the US is offering little in comparison, it won't do your bid any favours.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:25 PM   #6832
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Best Bid video
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Old September 16th, 2010, 04:51 PM   #6833
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The few venues that do have a lack of public transportation to the stadium right now are either i the midst of building it or they will use buses during the Cup to transport people so anyone in the city will have no problem at all taking public transportation to matches. I have no idea what he's going on about.
Yes -Park and Ride will usually be the case as there is always an exclusion zone which usually limits parking at the stadium
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Old September 16th, 2010, 06:20 PM   #6834
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God knows if that is a direct quote but if it is, can someone explain it to me?
Isn't international legacy FIFA's job, not the USA's or any other bid?

What would that international legacy have to be?
Translation: We want you to spend more US money in other nations.

I get it, and I'm all for using sport to share goodwill, build relations and help impoverished areas. Between this and the IOC's demands we're reaching levels of extortion. Presumably to make up for the under-the-table funding no longer found acceptable.

That someone wants to do this with their resources is great, but making it an expectation of the individual hosts taints the spirit of the process, IMO. If FIFA wants to see a global legacy then they should bloody well do it, rather then line their own lavish suit pockets and demand more $ from the hosts.

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Great scott, could her shoes be any higher?!!

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You may well say that should be up to FIFA alone, but if other bids are offering to set up, or in England's case increase their international development programmes and the US is offering little in comparison, it won't do your bid any favours.
If this costs the US the bid then so be it. Most of these bidding nations are doing so much for global charity as it is, and getting little respect in return, that I'm growing very weary of demands for more such outreach. Especially from the likes of Sepp Blatter.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 06:35 PM   #6835
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Presumably something more like this:

http://www.england2018bid.com/ourgoals/global-impact/

You may well say that should be up to FIFA alone, but if other bids are offering to set up, or in England's case increase their international development programmes and the US is offering little in comparison, it won't do your bid any favours.
Ah, that makes it clearer. Thankyou
Though I'm not American but an Aussie
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Old September 16th, 2010, 09:48 PM   #6836
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The bid book clearly states that if the US were to host, it would relate its efforts to the United Nations Millennium Development Goals in creating sustainable development worldwide, but doing so through soccer. They've dubbed it "One on One, One by One" and it's explained in even the shortened bid book posted on the bid site. A professor from Columbia, who is one of the world leaders on sustainable development, is on the bid committee. I can't see how that's not an international legacy and whatever other crap this man is spewing.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:48 PM   #6837
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Translation: We want you to spend more US money in other nations.
Well, you gotta give us the Cup first so that it can generate the $$ to spend on other nations. Without it, then there's NO reason to raise $$ or have the money from gate receipts with which to build a fund. Duh!!

Our bid team should've told the FIFA doofuses: ever heard of LA'84??
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Old September 17th, 2010, 12:37 AM   #6838
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Qatar 2022, 12 Stadiums.

Al-Shamal Stadium (45,330)




Al-Gharrafa Stadium (44,740)




Al-Khor Stadium (45,330)




Al-Wakrah Stadium (45,120)




Al-Rayyan Stadium (44,740)




Sport city stadium (47,500)




Doha Port Stadium (45,000)




Education city Stadium (45,000)




Umm Slal Stadium (45,000)




Qatar University Stadium (43,500)




Khalifa International Stadium (68,000)




Lusail National Stadium (86,000)

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Old September 17th, 2010, 12:45 AM   #6839
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Old September 17th, 2010, 01:46 AM   #6840
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Qatar has the best stadiums of any other bidding nation. Qatar must host the 2022 world cup. We can't be having a country where there are triple the amount of kangaroos than humans.
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