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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old September 18th, 2010, 04:48 AM   #6861
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I hope every one realizes that Qatar is the richest country on planet earth and fastest growing, doubling in ten years, and theres still 12 years to go!
But the amount of Qatari nationals will not double-its currently just 200,000 and even if it did that is still a blip compared to other bids with many major cities

Even at 4,000,000 in 2022 for the total population including the 87%(will be a far higher % by 2022) of foreign migrant workers,this is still a single city bid.


Qatar can only pacify the world by being a partner in a co hosting.This will be hard for them to swallow because they will very much be the Portugal of the Iberian bid or even the Luxembourg of the Bennelux bid
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Old September 18th, 2010, 07:10 AM   #6862
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World Cup 2018 Hosting Odds

England 2.22
Russia 3.05
Portugal and Spain 4.3
Belgium and Netherlands 40
USA 60


http://soccer.betfair.com/

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Old September 18th, 2010, 08:08 PM   #6863
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Interesting article.

Excess baggage - who gave the best gift to FIFA's globe-trotting inspectors?

If you see a man wearing a glazed expression, a hard hat, a pair of UGG boots and an England shirt signed by Fabio Capello, don’t call the police.

It's probably just a FIFA World Cup bid inspector.

Harold Mayne-Nicholls and his doughty band on Thursday completed their hectic perambulation around the nine bids and 11 countries still hoping to stage either the 2018 or the 2022 World Cup.

In the course of their odyssey, which began on July 19 at Kansai International Airport, Japan and ended in Doha, they have been showered with all manner of small, sometimes esoteric gifts by their hosts, who were obviously eager to please.

Don't worry, this is all above board.

The rules of conduct permit "occasional gifts that are generally regarded as having symbolic or incidental value and that exclude any influence on a decision in relation to the Bidding Process".

While FIFA's Code of Ethics states that officials are "not permitted to accept gifts and other benefits that exceed the average relative value of local cultural customs".

So allow me to fill you in on some of those items the inspectors will have had to try and cram into their luggage during what may currently seem two of the longest months of their lives.

First up, Japan regaled them with a picture book of inspectors’ "Smiles",captured during their visit (and clearly put together with impressive speed), along with an illustration drawn by Yoichi Takahashi, a manga artist known (though not by me) as the author of Captain Tsubasa.

In South Korea, items included a vase made by a local artist and football jerseys from both the national team and FC Seoul of the K-League.

On to Australia and - what else? - a Come Play-branded boomerang and those UGG boots.

First stop in Europe was Belgium/Holland who came up with a box of chocolates (no surprise there), but also a sheet of LED foil enabling, or so I am told, its user to read and write in the dark.

Russia produced a souvenir plate, commemorating the inspectors' visit to the Luzhniki Stadium and presented by Yuri Luzhkov, Moscow's Mayor.

The delegation also received another photo book, as well as the hard hats they wore in Saint Petersburg when inspecting the site of the new World Cup stadium.

England contributed a leather document-carrier, as well as the Capello shirt and a Manchester United jersey signed by World Cup winner Sir Bobby Charlton.

Spain/Portugal gave them a tie and a ballpoint pen, while the United States loaded them up with more soccer jerseys.

Last port of call was Qatar and a specially-commissioned piece of Arabic calligraphy spelling "unity".

Who would I award the prize for the best gift to?

Well much as I like the idea of the Russian hard hats, not to mention a shirt signed by Sir Bobby Charlton, I have to give second place to Australia and its UGG boots.

The clear winner though - because of the image it conjures up of FIFA inspectors so diligent that they don't even let the absence of light prevent them from working - is Belgium/Holland and its LED foil.

Congratulations - we’ll try and rustle up an insideworldfootball fridge magnet.

The reality is - with bid inspection reports expected to be available, according to my understanding, in early November, at least to bidders and FIFA Executive Committee members – that Mayne-Nicholls and his colleagues will indeed be burning the midnight oil in coming weeks.

The all-important vote, of course, is scheduled for December 2.

http://www.insideworldfootball.biz/i...&Itemid=44

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Old September 19th, 2010, 04:55 AM   #6864
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England --2018
Spain/Portugal --2022
Colombia or China--2026
Argentina or South Korea --2030
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Old September 19th, 2010, 09:32 AM   #6865
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England --2018
Spain/Portugal --2022
Colombia or China--2026
Argentina or South Korea --2030
Europe can't host consecutive World Cups. Try again.
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Old September 19th, 2010, 09:39 AM   #6866
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England --2018
Spain/Portugal --2022
Colombia or China--2026
Argentina or South Korea --2030
Colombia? Now where the hell did Colombia come from? If South America is to host again, it would be either a symbolic Argentina/Uruguay for 2030 or Venezuela (using much of the infrastructure from the 2007 Copa America).

Oh and as pointed out, countries within continents cannot be back to back host under current rules, they sit the next two editions out.
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Old September 19th, 2010, 10:25 AM   #6867
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hmmmmmm
Did you get a permit for that webdrink??
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Old September 19th, 2010, 02:28 PM   #6868
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Did you get a permit for that webdrink??
silly & trivial
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Old September 19th, 2010, 03:31 PM   #6869
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silly & trivial
Thought it was quite clever
2006
1,056,000 litres beer sold in the 12 stadia
3.5 million litres of beer sold at fan fests
3.5 million sausages sold at fan fests
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Did you get a permit for that webdrink??
Its Coca-Cola
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Old September 19th, 2010, 07:25 PM   #6871
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Thought it was quite clever
2006
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3.5 million litres of beer sold at fan fests
3.5 million sausages sold at fan fests
Other than that, there are thousands of different choices to make, Soft-drinks, natural juices, popcorn, BEEF sausages, snacks etc etc.
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Old September 19th, 2010, 07:30 PM   #6872
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You can't get drunk off them though, which can be the funnest yet most regretful part of a game.
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Old September 20th, 2010, 09:57 PM   #6873
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Forgetting a very important part, the ladies!!!
etc etc.......

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Old September 21st, 2010, 06:37 AM   #6874
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If England gets 2018 I can't see Australia getting 2022. As that would be two english speaking Euro white countries back to back. No diversity.
Well it will be America or Australia in 2022, so get ready.
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If England gets 2018 I can't see Australia getting 2022. As that would be two english speaking Euro white countries back to back. No diversity.
Didn't seem to matter for '78, '82 and '86. Argentina, Spain, Mexico.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 09:15 AM   #6876
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Well it will be America or Australia in 2022, so get ready.


The shock will be rather severe even though FIFA has already said to Qatar
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FIFA's Valcke Issues Warning on Collusion Over 2018, 2022 World Cup Bids

By Tariq Panja - Sep 22, 2010 12:50 AM ET



Countries bidding to host soccer’s World Cup in 2018 or 2022 have been warned to stick to the rules after speculation about voting collusion reached the sport’s governing body.

“We will send reminders on the rules and conduct via our ethics committee,” FIFA General Secretary Jerome Valcke, the organization’s second-highest executive, said in an e-mail sent to Bloomberg today.

FIFA’s 24-member executive will decide in December where sports’ most-watched event will be staged after Brazil in 2014. Until then nine bidders are spending millions of dollars traveling the world lobbying for support.

“Rumors” of vote-sharing between a European bidder for the 2018 tournament and a candidate for the 2022 event have been heard by FIFA, Valcke said. Soliciting single votes or block votes from rival bidders isn’t allowed.

Bidders “are prohibited from entering into any kind of agreement with any other member association or bid committee as regards to the behavior during the bid process,” FIFA’s rules state.

Four European candidates -- England, Russia, Spain-Portugal and Holland-Belgium -- are competing with the U.S. to host the 2018 edition. The U.S. is also a candidate for the 2022 race where Qatar, Australia, Japan and South Korea are bidding.

“There are a lot of rumors around 18/22,” Valcke said in the e-mail. “But I think we are monitoring efficiently what is done by the nine bidders, and we will also inform our executive committee members again at our next meeting in October about such rumors on vote-sharing and their responsibility.”

Earlier this month a group of FIFA technical inspectors completed a tour of all the candidate countries by visiting Qatar, which is hoping to become the first Middle East host of the World Cup.

To contact the reporter on this story: Tariq Panja in London at [email protected]

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Chris Elser [email protected]




http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-0...-cup-bids.html


I think we all know which country from 2022 Valcke is referring too.
Very strong rumours about which 2 teams they are
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Doubt anyone will be sticking to the rules.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 05:44 PM   #6879
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The FIFA Inspection group is expected to deliver a report for FIFA ex-co.
Like for 2010 and 2014 evaluation reports, there could have a standing about best bids.

http://www.troywatts.com/sitebuilder...tionreport.pdf

http://www.troywatts.com/sitebuilder...tionreport.pdf

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1 England
2 United States
3 Australia
4 Spain-Portugal
5 Japan/Korea/Belgium-Netherlands
8 Russia/Qatar
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 05:48 PM   #6880
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Before any Russians or Qataris get het up, this list is - I'm sure - based on technical quality and risk assessment. It will be a technical report, and won't say which the "best" bid is, that's up to FIFA execs in December.

I'd put Spain-Portugal ahead of Australia in that sense, not that they're competing directly anyway.
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