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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 10:18 PM   #6881
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The FIFA Inspection group is expected to deliver a report for FIFA ex-co.
Like for 2010 and 2014 evaluation reports, there could have a standing about best bids.

http://www.troywatts.com/sitebuilder...tionreport.pdf

http://www.troywatts.com/sitebuilder...tionreport.pdf

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1 England
2 United States
3 Australia
4 Spain-Portugal
5 Japan/Korea/Belgium-Netherlands
8 Russia/Qatar
Excellent: England, USA, Spain-Portugal, Japan
Very Good: Australia, Russia
Good: Belgium-Netherlands
Unsatisfactory: Qatar
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 11:49 PM   #6882
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Some key notes/quotes

England : "All the needs and objectives of our visit were met and we are positive that the World Cup in England in 2018 would be a great experience with a long-lasting legacy for the country and its people, as well as for football worldwide," said Mayne-Nicholls

"Concerning public transportation and event facilities, there seems to be no problem in hosting an event of such scope," he said.

"This also counts for safety and security matters. One thing Fifa are particularly focused on is accommodation as we need a very high number of quality rooms."This is why we ask all bidders for a certain number of contracted hotel rooms. We trust that you will be able to fulfil the necessary requirements."

England 2018 bid chief executive Andy Anson downplayed the issue over accommodation, describing it as a "technical formality", and promised to have organised the required 60,000 hotel rooms before the end of September deadline.

Russia Fifa has warned World Cup bidder Russia they must begin building their stadiums and infrastructure immediately if they are to host the finals in 2018 or 2022."Work needs to start now to guarantee everything will be in place in time," said Fifa's Harold Mayne-Nicholls.

Australia "During the visit we had the chance to learn a lot about your country and especially about football in Australia. We are proud to know that programs such as Football United are used as a vehicle for social improvements that will help to build better communities: also it was very impressive to read that the growth of football in Australia in the last decade has been 60 per cent and that at the moment there are more than 600,000 players registered.

"We also heard about the promises to deliver new first class stadiums and to renovate the existing ones, the implementation of volunteers programs, the improvements in telecommunications and transportation that will take place and beside all that that if the World Cup comes to Australia in 2022, it will be more than a football tournament with four important areas in social development, including the Oceania countries in this program.

"As a conclusion and after checking the bid book presentation on site, we must conclude that this country seems to be prepared in all the aspects to organize the World Cup in 2022."

USA “In case you will be awarded to host the event, we would also need a strong focus on international legacy, not only on a domestic one,” Mayne-Nicholls said in one of two atypically pointed remarks.

“Please let me add that there might be in a later stage additional needs for public transportation to cater to foreign fans,” he said without elaborating further.

“We did have some private conversations on things that I thought we could make improvements in,” Gulati said. “We had a frank discussion about government guarantees, those sorts of issues. Security is an issue for everyone and that’s true for any major international event.

The fields at all potential sites can be widened to meet international standards if the U.S. is awarded either the 2018 or 2022 tournament, FIFA’s World Cup inspectors were assured this week.

“We’ve assured them that we will get to FIFA international dimensions—and in a cost-effective way,” U.S. Soccer President Sunil Gulati said Friday. “And, if for any reason that was an issue, we have alternatives.”

I apologise to other bids but these are the only 4 bids I have time for and a final reference to the "joke" which is the only bid to FAIL the technical requirements

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Old September 23rd, 2010, 02:48 AM   #6883
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I'm still flabbergasted by his comment on the US needing an international legacy. Does he know nothing about the bid?
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 05:27 AM   #6884
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He would've seen more than any of us, so my guess is he obviously felt there was a lack of investment by the US FA into development programs around the region and a lack of international legacy from the bid. I read what Sunil Gulati said when he was talking about a legacy and frankly I didn't hear anything other than "we hosted so good 94 give me now finish job we good".
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 06:55 AM   #6885
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If you check out the abridged bid book there's sections dedicated to an international legacy. The bid book clearly states that if the US were to host, it would relate its efforts to the United Nations Millennium Development Goals in creating sustainable development worldwide, but doing so through soccer. They've dubbed it "One on One, One by One." A professor from Columbia, who is one of the world leaders on sustainable development, is on the bid committee. I can't see how that's not an international legacy or a commitment to it.
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 10:51 AM   #6886
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TWENTY REPORTERS AND A MINISTER
Yesterday twenty reporters of well-known papers and informational agencies from different countries of five continents visited the office of Sport Express. This delegation is traveling across Russia to examine our opportunities to host the World Cup-2018. In the office a round table took place where the Minister for Sport, Tourism and Youth Policy Vitaliy Mutko answered the questions of the journalists.


On the eve of the meeting the group has been to St. Petersburg where they visited the construction site of a new stadium, met the head of the city’s sports committee Vyacheslav Chazov and chiefs of the fan group Nevsky Front.

In Moscow the delegation met the general director of RFU and the Bid Committee Alexey Sorokin, sports director of the Committee Alexey Smertin, PFC CSKA President Evgeniy Giner and famous goalkeeper Renat Dasaev.

"We understand that all countries-bidders are able to organize and carry out the World Cup but we want to have the tournament in Russia," said Mutko.

"Firstly, no World Championship has ever taken place in Eastern Europe. That is the vocation of football to encourage economic development opening new territories and that is the World Cup should migrate."

"Otherwise, trying to make the life easier we will come to the point when the tournament will only take place in such countries as Germany, England, France."

"Secondly, the main task formulated in FIFA Statutes, is to popularize football. The World Cup would give Russia a unique chance. We have listed 13 towns and 16 stadiums. Five stadiums are being built already. Others should be reconstructed or built. And this is the heritage that the tournament can leave. Of course we can construct stadiums without the World Cup but the human nature is that it is always easier when there is a goal."

"Thirdly, in 1991 the Soviet Union collapsed into 15 independent countries and we started to build in Russia a new, modern, democratic republic with open economy to leave it peace with other states."

"And now we wanted to show to the rest of the world not only Moscow and Saint Petersburg – that are being visited by many tourists – but also other Russian cities. Let people know our multinational citizens better!"
http://english.sport-express.ru/summary/1_5573/
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 10:54 AM   #6887
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RADNEDGE: RUSSIA IS FAVOURITE NOW
One of the most well known football reporters in the world, Chairman of AIPS Football Commission, former editor-in-chief of World Soccer Keir Radnedge eyes Russian chances to host the World Cup-2018.


"At the moment I think that Russia is favourite in the race for the World Cup," said Radnedge. "The bids of all candidates have three sides – technical, commercial and political. And in the political aspect Russians shot ahead."

"England experienced many problems to restore the former influence in the sports world for many years. And finally after London won the bidding to host the Olympic Games-2012 the forgotten feeling of self-confidence reappeared. Till that time many people seriously believed that England will never get anything again."

"Of course England has chances. When the country was applying for the World Cup-2006 its bid had a strong opposition from the most part of the English press. Nowadays there is nothing of the kind: there is criticism but it does not make so much harm as before."

"The reasons of that opposition were the following: journalists thought that wrong people were dealing with the bid and that they were making wrong statements. In particular, statements that England as a native land of football has the right to host the World Cup."

"And it is incorrect because looking at the bids of such countries as Qatar we can judge that any country with no exceptions has the right to bid for the World Championship. In this issue everybody is equal. And this time there is no such arrogant statement from the officials of the English bid."

"At the moment people speak only about Russia and England as possible candidates. And no one pays much attention to a joint bid of Spain and Portugal. FIFA stressed it many times that they do not like much joint bids."

"Previous tournaments showed that there are many problems connected with the implementation of joint bids and FIFA does not want to make similar mistakes. Moreover there are comprehensive bids of single countries."

"The only thing I cannot understand is the one why Spain needs Portugal for the tournament when it is a big country itself."
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 11:25 AM   #6888
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Australia "During the visit we had the chance to learn a lot about your country and especially about football in Australia. We are proud to know that programs such as Football United are used as a vehicle for social improvements that will help to build better communities: also it was very impressive to read that the growth of football in Australia in the last decade has been 60 per cent and that at the moment there are more than 600,000 players registered.

"We also heard about the promises to deliver new first class stadiums and to renovate the existing ones, the implementation of volunteers programs, the improvements in telecommunications and transportation that will take place and beside all that that if the World Cup comes to Australia in 2022, it will be more than a football tournament with four important areas in social development, including the Oceania countries in this program.

"As a conclusion and after checking the bid book presentation on site, we must conclude that this country seems to be prepared in all the aspects to organize the World Cup in 2022."
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 12:08 PM   #6889
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Mutko speech(part 1) and answers to questions(part 2, 3 ,4, 5)
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 08:13 PM   #6890
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Russia World Cup Bid Unveils Stunning Saint Petersburg Stadium
(WFI) Saint Petersburg will host a World Cup semi-final in a 69,500-seat stadium with a moveable roof and retractable pitch if Russia is successful in its bid for the FIFA 2018 tournament.

The Russian bid unveiled the design to reporters today at the stadium construction site on Krestovsky Island in the north west of the city.

It is the single biggest stadium project proposed under the bid - and at a cost of 500 million euros the most expensive.

Russia's bid proposes 16 stadiums in 13 host cities. Four stadia in the Moscow area would stage games; 13 new venues are planned.

Bid officials claims Saint Petersburg's new venue - designed by Japanese architect Kisho Kurokawa - is one of the jewels of its bid book submission to FIFA.

"This is one unbelievable construction. It is going to be one of the most sophisticated and modern stadiums," said Alexander Chernov, one of Russia's leading sports lobbyists who is a strategic advisor to the bid.

Speaking at a briefing at the Saint Petersburg's sport's headquarters, the city's head of sport, Vyatcheslav Chasov, added: "We see the city as the main piece in the whole [bid] concept. Everybody is very supportive because the city loves football and wants the World Cup to come here."

FIFA inspectors visited the construction site last month as part of their mammoth two-month tour of the nine bidders for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups. The six-man FIFA delegation also visited stadiums in Moscow, Kazan and Sochi.

"We have a long way to run but we are already deep in the process of being prepared for the World Cup. Construction of the new stadium is on its way. Next year we start construction of a new airport," Chasov said.

Chasov attended the opening game at the South African World Cup to get some pointers on how to organise the FIFA tournament.

He pinpointed traffic management in the first days of the 2010 World Cup as an specific issue that Russia could learn from to help address its own traffic congestion problems in Saint Petersburg and particularly Moscow.

"I have no doubt the city [Saint Petersburg] will be prepared well before the World Cup to deliver a brilliant competition," he added.

Chasov said the new airport would be constructed in three years regardless of whether Russia secures the World Cup. In the last two years, he revealed that the number of hotel beds had doubled, while last year the seaport was opened - a "big piece of our tourist industry".
Stadium innovation in Saint Petersburg
Funded by the city, construction on the new Saint Petersburg started in 2007 and is scheduled to finish by the end of 2011.

The retractable-roof design includes a sliding pitch mechanism that allows two fields to be moved in and out of the venue at different levels.

One field would remain outside the arena at any one time under efforts to enhance grass growth and maintain a good pitch.

The stadium project mirrors similar systems that are in operation in the Netherlands at Vitesse Arnhem's Gelredome and Schalke 04's stadium in Gelsenkirchen, Germany.

The venue, which will be the new home of Zenit Saint Petersburg from 2012, is being built on the site of the former 75,000-capacity Keirov Stadium, an outdated arena constructed in the 1930s that was pulled down three years ago.

"In the one month since the inspection team was here, we have seen huge change," said Chernov, who was leader of Russia's bid for the UEFA 2008 European Championship that went to Austria-Switzerland. He was also general manager of Moscow's 2012 Olympic bid

The retractable roof will be lifted into place next summer when the seats are also scheduled to be installed.

"I have no doubt this stadium will be completed by the end of next year," he said.
The design calls for a multipurpose stadium
concept, with a range of sports and entertainment events planned.

"Everything can be organised here," Chernov said, adding that it would be used 365 days a year.

Zenit's current home, the 22,000-seat Petrovsky Stadium, could not be expanded because of its location on the banks of the River Neva. It is proposed as a team base camp in the Russia 2018 bid book.

The Russia bid says thousands of football fans at a World Cup would travel to the new stadium from the city centre by boat via the city's well-connected waterways. Others would use the metro and shuttle buses to get to the venue, while car travel is also an option with thousands of parking spaces planned.

INSIDER travelled to Russia as a guest of the bid team which is paying for the trip.

Around 20 reporters are on the four-day media tour, which includes visits to Saint Petersburg, Moscow and Sochi, the Black Sea resort hosting the 2014 Winter Olympics.

On Monday night, journalists travelled from Saint Petersburg to Moscow via high-speed train, a journey that took just over four hours.

Reporters will on Tuesday meet with Vitaly Mutko, chairman of the Russian bid and the country's sports minister, bid CEO Alexey Sorokin and first deputy prime minister and World Cup bid co-chairman, Igor Shuvalov.

A tour of the Luzhniki Olympic Complex, venue for the 1980 Moscow Olympics, is also scheduled.

Luzhniki Stadium, upgraded to 89,300 seats for the World Cup, would be the showpiece venue of the tournament, hosting the opening match, a semi-final and the final.

By INSIDER editor Mark Bisson
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 09:40 PM   #6891
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World Cup Bid Index 1.1 (by Mo Rush)

The main movements this week sees Russia gain some ground on England, while Qatar drops down further due to logistical concerns raised. The remaining bids remain steady.

The figures included consultation with Matthew Lowry who has spoken to every FIFA member.

Out of 100

England 84
Russia 78
Australia 73
Spain-Portugal 73
USA 65
Japan 61
Belgium-Neterlands 60
Qatar 39

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Old September 23rd, 2010, 11:20 PM   #6892
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Matthew Lowry who has spoken to every FIFA member.
It true or you just joking?
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Completely true
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Old September 24th, 2010, 12:30 AM   #6894
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completely wrong

they consulted with him, between his meetings with the mayor of Cape Town and him securing the Olympic bid for Tokyo
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Old September 24th, 2010, 10:49 AM   #6895
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they consulted with him, between his meetings with the mayor of Cape Town and him securing the Olympic bid for Tokyo
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World Cup Bid Index (by Mo Rush)

The main movements this week sees Russia gain some ground on England, while Qatar drops down further due to logistical concerns raised. The remaining bids remain steady.

The figures included consultation with Matthew Lowry who has spoken to every FIFA member.

Out of 100


Qatar 39
Yet 'Qatar 9 votes have confirmed'
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Old September 24th, 2010, 01:16 PM   #6897
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No disrespect to the members of the FIFA executive committee, but the mix of countries represented seems ludicrous.
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Old September 24th, 2010, 01:25 PM   #6898
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No disrespect to the members of the FIFA executive committee, but the mix of countries represented seems ludicrous.
You can't disrespect people who deserve none.
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isn't the Qatar score a tad over harsh Mo?

Also why USA rated so tough?
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isn't the Qatar score a tad over harsh Mo?

Also why USA rated so tough?
Qatar won't make the final vote so I think its about right
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