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Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
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Old October 14th, 2010, 06:22 AM   #7261
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Oceania sucks! I never want to see New Zeland in a world cup again! Oceania's spot should be given to South America so we can see Ecuador in it.
Yet they were the only unbeaten team at this years WC and gave us some great moments including






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Old October 14th, 2010, 07:43 AM   #7262
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Yet they were the only unbeaten team at this years WC...
New Zealand is unbeaten in world cups, that's true, but is also true that they never won a single match.

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World cup matches give a lot of points for the FIFA ranking, even if all the matches you play end in a draw. Ecuador don't play an important match since the 2010 world cup qualifiers. That's the reason why New Zealand is in a better position than Ecuador.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 08:28 AM   #7263
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New Zealand is unbeaten in world cups, that's true, but is also true that they never won a single match.
They should have really beaten Italy and moved out of the group, they were unfortunate, thanks to what essentially was a dive from De Rossi. How much football in New Zealand has improved was demonstrated by not just their national squad but also by their Wellington Phoenix club side when they went and defeated Boca Juniors.
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World cup matches give a lot of points for the FIFA ranking, even if all the matches you play end in a draw. Ecuador don't play an important match since the 2010 world cup qualifiers. That's the reason why New Zealand is in a better position than Ecuador.
Did you ever consider that quite possibly New Zealand are a better team than Equador? Even though they've spent hardly any time playing football and their country is dominated by another sport, they still managed to make it into the world cup and attained a higher ranking in the world. You were speaking about growth, well that is growth
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Old October 14th, 2010, 08:52 AM   #7265
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They should have really beaten Italy and moved out of the group, they were unfortunate, thanks to what essentially was a dive from De Rossi. How much football in New Zealand has improved was demonstrated by not just their national squad but also by their Wellington Phoenix club side when they went and defeated Boca Juniors.
Come on!, Italy played in South Africa one of its worst world cups. And Boca Juniors, what can i say about Boca Juniors?. Nowadays they are in the eleventh position of the argentine league.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 08:56 AM   #7266
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Did you ever consider that quite possibly New Zealand are a better team than Equador? Even though they've spent hardly any time playing football and their country is dominated by another sport, they still managed to make it into the world cup and attained a higher ranking in the world. You were speaking about growth, well that is growth
...and New Zealand is definitely NOT a better team than Ecuador.
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...and New Zealand is definitely NOT a better team than Ecuador.
FIFA says otherwise
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Old October 14th, 2010, 09:03 AM   #7269
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FIFA says otherwise
Did you read what i wrote a few minutes ago?.

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Did you read what i write a few minutes ago?.
You mean wrote? What does that matter? FIFA have the final say in who is what ranking. If Equador actually versed New Zealand, I'm sure Equador would get beaten on current form.

New Zealand drew with Paraguay in the world cup, they drew with Italy and they drew with Slovakia.
They beat Serbia before the world cup, all these nations are ranked higher than New Zealand but they did draw against them/beat them and it's not like New Zealand play some sort of system like 6-4-0 or something, they play an attacking 4-3-3 system, which sometimes even changes into a 3-4-3 system. Equador on the other hand, I know love to park the bus, and quite simply they are nowhere near these other nations, the last time I heard anything about Equador, it involved a 5-0 drubbing at the hands of Brazil.

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You mean wrote? What does that matter? FIFA have the final say in who is what ranking. If Equador actually versed New Zealand, I'm sure Equador would get beaten on current form.

New Zealand drew with Paraguay in the world cup, they drew with Italy and they drew with Slovakia.
They beat Serbia before the world cup, all these nations are ranked higher than New Zealand but they did draw against them/beat them and it's not like New Zealand play some sort of system like 6-4-0 or something, they play an attacking 4-3-3 system, which sometimes even changes into a 3-4-3 system. Equador on the other hand, I know love to park the bus, and quite simply they are nowhere near these other nations, the last time I heard anything about Equador, it involved a 5-0 drubbing at the hands of Brazil.
Oh my god!, I'm shaking. New Zealand... the next world cup champion. Give me a break!.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 10:08 AM   #7272
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Oh my god!, I'm shaking. New Zealand... the next world cup champion. Give me a break!.
I said they'd probably beat Equador, South America have been playing the game for how long? It's the most popular sport in almost every nation there, New Zealand on the other hand, football is probably the neglected step child of New Zealand sport. But now with the performance at the world cup, the tide is turning and New Zealand has every chance of turning into a powerful footballing nation.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 10:17 AM   #7273
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I said they'd probably beat Equador, South America have been playing the game for how long? It's the most popular sport in almost every nation there, New Zealand on the other hand, football is probably the neglected step child of New Zealand sport. But now with the performance at the world cup, the tide is turning and New Zealand has every chance of turning into a powerful footballing nation.
They are a rugby power, but in football they have a long way to go my dear friend.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 10:19 AM   #7274
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NZ did well for what they have, but a powerful football nation?


On NZ wanting to move over, the rationale is probably similar to what Australia had. In Oceania you don't get any decent matches to condition your team before the do or die elimination against the other confed. Basically means your team don't play together properly until the last two games of your qualification process

Also agree Oceania is a joke. Personally I'd merge them into Asia, and them split Asia in half (mid-east/central & south Asia for one confed, Oceania, SE and East Asia the other)
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Old October 14th, 2010, 10:28 AM   #7276
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Come on!, Italy played in South Africa one of its worst world cups. And Boca Juniors, what can i say about Boca Juniors?. Nowadays they are in the eleventh position of the argentine league.
However, Italy still remain a big power in European football. If they played in South Africa one of its worst world cups, it's only their personal problems. I was not bored of New Zealand's play.

During WC2006 I watched matches of Trinidad & Tobago team. They made draw with Sweden and England was not able to scored them during 80 minutes. Really, during this match vs. England I don't regret that Trinidad&Tobago played in WC.
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Australia look good at previous WC2006 and lose in 1/8 final by future champions (Italians) only at last minutes due to dubious penalty. At WC2010 Australians look better than France, Greece or Italy. Therefore I'm sure that such region must be represent in World Cups.
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However, Italy still remain a big power in European football. If they played in South Africa one of its worst world cups, it's only their personal problems. I was not bored of New Zealand's play.

During WC2006 I watched matches of Trinidad & Tobago team. They made draw with Sweden and England was not able to scored them during 80 minutes. Really, during this match vs. England I don't regret that Trinidad&Tobago played in WC.
Sometimes these situations happen, but ultimately the best always win.
That's the reason because almost always the world champions are the same.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 10:53 AM   #7279
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Sometimes these situations happen, but ultimately the best always win.
That's the reason because almost always the world champions are the same.
Anyway bloke time to move one
The wonderful thing about the WC is its diversity between confederations.Is the standard higher in the UCL,most likely,Euro maybe but this is the WC and some parts of this world are going thru a big growth phase compared to the established markets

I'm sure we'd all be supporting a combined Argie/Uru bid for 2030.
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Australia look good at previous WC2006 and lose in 1/8 final by future champions (Italians) only at last minutes due to dubious penalty. At WC2010 Australians look better than France, Greece or Italy. Therefore I'm sure that such region must be represent in World Cups.
Thanks for your mature,worldly opinion
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