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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old October 16th, 2010, 04:50 AM   #7321
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The parallel timing of these two announcements is very curious. At this point, I'd be very surprised if it went to anyone other than England and USA. Everyone else seems to have too many flaws, considering how they compare to those two.
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Old October 16th, 2010, 05:00 AM   #7322
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Yeah, it seems like an anglo-american conspiracy.
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Old October 16th, 2010, 05:14 AM   #7323
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The parallel timing of these two announcements is very curious. At this point, I'd be very surprised if it went to anyone other than England and USA. Everyone else seems to have too many flaws, considering how they compare to those two.
Well there is only 2 things that are now definite
2018-UEFA
2022/2026 USA

This of course has always been the biggest fear in some way for the USA bid team.With the stroke of a pen they are happy to now wait 4 more years,when in a further 4 years they will bid uncontested.An extreme luxury that will come to haunt them
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Old October 16th, 2010, 08:59 AM   #7324
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Old October 16th, 2010, 10:27 AM   #7325
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_x_, are you not concerned about this?
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China's federation said in July it wants to host in 2026 -- a potential campaign that could prompt FIFA to keep Asia in the game by going to the U.S. four years earlier.
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Old October 16th, 2010, 10:33 AM   #7326
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The likes of Andorra are just making up the numbers. It's not the case that finishing above Andorra means you qualify. If South America had a few extra nations of Andorra standard, it wouldn't make qualifying from that contient any easier.

Plenty of bigger euro nations have failed to qualify for world cups, because the 2nd, 3rd and even 4th seeds can be expected to give teams tough games.
I was explaining why Brazil could finish with a few losses and draws and still qualify - because it faces absolutely no weak opposition as well as facing the other top nations from CONMEBOL - strong teams. No saying its easier or harder, just that you would expect a top CONMBEOL team to finish on relatively less points than a team progressing through UEFA qualification.

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The groups are seeded, but the number of groups, and the small number of spaces available per group, reduces the margin for error significantly. One bad result could see a seed dumped out, or forced into a play-off.
I totally agree, and mentioned that a a few bad results can result in disaster with UEFA qualifying - hence its a less fair system.
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Old October 16th, 2010, 11:45 AM   #7327
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Australia has no chance of winning now our confed boss is more interested in trying to get Sepp's job

congrats USA 2022
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Old October 16th, 2010, 11:49 AM   #7328
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Are you sure?.
Yes. In any case there will be battle England vs. Russia in the final round of voting. And the people who planned to support USA, will support England in this round.
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Old October 16th, 2010, 12:05 PM   #7329
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Why should it go to a country that has had it recently over a country that would do as good a job if not better at hosting it and has never had it?
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Old October 16th, 2010, 12:39 PM   #7330
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Why should it go to a country that has had it recently over a country that would do as good a job if not better at hosting it and has never had it?
USA will do a good job, I don't begrudge them that

I hope our glorious confed leader's bid for power fails as much as qatars bid will though. nothing worse than one of your own selling you down the river
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Old October 16th, 2010, 12:43 PM   #7331
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Old October 16th, 2010, 12:45 PM   #7332
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Why should it go to a country that has had it recently over a country that would do as good a job if not better at hosting it and has never had it?
Well, let's see:

1) more ticket sales due to larger stadiums
2) 25 million foreign-born residents
3) top-notch security and infrastructure
4) more lucrative television contract due to better time zone for European viewing
5) tap into continued growth in the passion for soccer for a massive population
6) track record of excellent '94 legacy
7) no potential of a competing variety of football league matches and stadiums during the summer
8) gives FIFA flexibility of being able to host it in China in 2026 should they decide to put forth a bid (if not Aussie would still be a great back-up choice at this time)

Again though, while the USA is a technically superior bid in virtually every aspect, there is something to be said for a first-time host. Australia has to pin their hopes on this.
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Old October 16th, 2010, 01:08 PM   #7333
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I hope our glorious confed leader's bid for power fails as much as qatars bid will though. nothing worse than one of your own selling you down the river
I don't see how how a Middle Eastern guy's power-grab would have any effect on Australia. To me, if anything this benefits Australia, because less votes will potentially go to Qatar. I think something like this would only have a negative effect on Australia if they were the only Asian bid left or an Aussie was the actual one trying to grab SB's spot.
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Old October 16th, 2010, 01:25 PM   #7334
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I don't see how how a Middle Eastern guy's power-grab would have any effect on Australia. To me, if anything this benefits Australia, because less votes will potentially go to Qatar. I think something like this would only have a negative effect on Australia if they were the only Asian bid left or an Aussie was the actual one trying to grab SB's spot.
you have to look at the other half of what he has been saying, talking up China for 2026. why is a confed leader with 4 active bids for 2022 talking up China for 2026?

he would only do that IMO if its in "his" interests for the USA to win 2022, and we know Warner likes a deal

also why as the leader of the AFC, did he make no effort to get Asia behind one bid? UEFA and 2018 I understand, they basically had the slot guaranteed to them, so it would always be an internal free for all. Asia though was always going up against a hostile and real threat in the USA bid. Instead we split money, resources, time, and political goodwill between 4 separate bids? More importantly, Asia has only 4 exco delegates, and all 4 are split between the bidding countries. Surely you want to at least have your confed unified to survive the early rounds, instead he has allowed them to be completely divided

my money is on him fully supporting Qatar until they bow out. Then he will "fight the good fight" to keep the confed onside, but the votes will flow quickly to the USA

As mentioned, this is nothing against the USA bid, I reckon they will do a brilliant job. I'm just pissed because if I'm reading the tea leaves right, our own confed head is screwing us
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Old October 16th, 2010, 01:29 PM   #7335
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Well if they don't get it this time around, Aussie will certainly be able to get another crack at it in 2026 won't they? Obviously you would have to hope China doesn't bid, because they would be a virtual lock, but if they don't I'd say Aussie has a great shot against Africa. South America is probably holding out for that stupid centennial thing that is destined to fail abysmally.
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Old October 16th, 2010, 01:31 PM   #7336
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Don't get me wrong I think US would great. But they've had a recent chance. Give us a go!
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Old October 16th, 2010, 01:33 PM   #7337
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Don't get me wrong I think US would great. But they've had a recent chance. Give us a go!
man! you just made this the Australian 2022 campaign slogan:

"ohh......come on!! they had a turn already!!"

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Old October 16th, 2010, 01:38 PM   #7338
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USA 2022 v. Australia 2022

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Old October 16th, 2010, 01:40 PM   #7339
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Don't get me wrong I think US would great. But they've had a recent chance. Give us a go!
Yep, that's how I feel about 2022 as well - I'd rather the US waited longer and FIFA gave the Ozzies a chance. I'm a total hyporcrite in wanting England 2018 instead of Russia though, who have never hosted before, but that's just the way of these things. You support your home team.

Slipperydog, "the USA is a technically superior bid in virtually every aspect", but it will always be, and - along with having hosted recenty in 1994 - that's its biggest problem right there. This isn't like the Olympic bid process where the IOC grabs the iron while its hot, knowing a chance might not come again because a city might not have the appetite. FIFA knows the USA will bid until they win (why wouldn't they - they've not nothing to lose and everything to gain?) and they know everytime they bid they will offer all the things you've listed. Bypassing the US in 2022 in favour of Australia may well suit them, and they'll know the USA will almost certainly be back another time with a similarly excellent bid.
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Old October 16th, 2010, 01:42 PM   #7340
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man! you just made this the Australian 2022 campaign slogan:

"ohh......come on!! they had a turn already!!"

I've been thinking that for ages - whenever I read someone saying they want the US to win.
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