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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old October 17th, 2010, 02:34 AM   #7361
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You're a fool. Australia's key market area is over two billion people.
U mean 2 billion kangaroos, koalas and platypi of course.
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Old October 17th, 2010, 02:42 AM   #7362
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U mean 2 billion kangaroos, koalas and platypi of course.
He meant Asia. Expect plenty of tourists from Asia to come to an Australian WC.

Expect the die hard fans from all over to come to Australia and support their team.

Don't expect 2 billion, that's being a bit silly (though yes, he was referring to the potential market), but expect a considerable amount of fans coming over.
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Old October 17th, 2010, 03:04 AM   #7363
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Well, let's see:

1) more ticket sales due to larger stadiums
2) 25 million foreign-born residents
3) top-notch security and infrastructure
4) more lucrative television contract due to better time zone for European viewing
5) tap into continued growth in the passion for soccer for a massive population
6) track record of excellent '94 legacy
7) no potential of a competing variety of football league matches and stadiums during the summer
8) gives FIFA flexibility of being able to host it in China in 2026 should they decide to put forth a bid (if not Aussie would still be a great back-up choice at this time)

Again though, while the USA is a technically superior bid in virtually every aspect, there is something to be said for a first-time host. Australia has to pin their hopes on this.
You make some good points. But number 2 was a bit bewildering, not sure what that has to do with anything to be honest.

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U mean 2 billion kangaroos, koalas and platypi of course.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about.
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Old October 17th, 2010, 03:27 AM   #7364
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U mean 2 billion kangaroos, koalas and platypi of course.
your numbers are somewhat off

while Australia does have roughly 60 million kangaroos, the other two species are in a very different position

there are around 100,000 koalas in the wild, and while they are thriving in Victoria, their status is close to endangered in the other states (ranging from threatened to rare)

Platypus are rarer (only in the low thousands), but this is more due to their limited availability of food and suitable habitat

saying Australia is a funny zoo full of strange animals is as dumb as saying the USA is full of Paris Hilton wanna-bes who want to nuke commies
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Old October 17th, 2010, 03:35 AM   #7365
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U mean 2 billion kangaroos, koalas and platypi of course.

What a stupid, childish and downright idiotic comment.
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Old October 17th, 2010, 04:23 AM   #7366
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But why? 3 southern hermisphere WCs (OK, broken in 2018) in almost a row??? And then, Oz is a what? 25 million market. The US (plus neighboring Canada and Mexico) presents a 400-million market right there.

Why should FIFA wait another 4 years?

You can probably hold an Olympics in a 10-million country...but you can't hold the men's World Cup in a country (outside of Europe and No. America) smaller than RSA's 49.5 million.
Oh dear

Try 4,688,000,000 in 2022------PRIMETIME
And all of Europe and the UK in daylight hours including 54 matches(all the big ones) after midday at worst
Very compelling

Can't get that anywhere else but Japan and Korea and we all agree that neither will win hosting rights this time around

Only an Australasian in its centennial year win can offer such incredible football legacy to FIFA that will surely smash the global cumulative viewing total thru the 70 billion mark and offer such powerful returns for all its sponsors.The amazing TV rights that would follow would be truly mind boggling
Not only that ,the AFC would offer an extra chance for China to qualify 4 years earlier than any unsubstantiated suggestions of interest in 2026
Make no mistake-we will bid once only as has been confirmed.It is now or never for us,we won't be bidding against a totally corrupt Chinese FA bid
On the other hand,the USA ,in a unique set of circumstances can and will get hosting rights just 4 years later in 2026-uncontested
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Old October 17th, 2010, 04:47 AM   #7367
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What a stupid, childish and downright idiotic comment.
Yours is the MORE idiotic comment. When I said 400,000,000 million people in the North American market, that's people right there in one land mass who only have to cross one border to see a game. A lot of Mexican fans can easily get to LA or Houston games. Canadians can get to the Seattle, Boston venues WITHOUT HAVING to buy a PLANE ticket--unlike the 2 billion solopo*p claimed. Duh!!

Will two billion come to AUstralia to watch a WC? Of course not. That is an even more idiotic claim. Besides, Australia only gets thrown in with the Asian confederation only for competitive purposes--NOT for marketing purposes. For marketing purposes, Oz/Micro/Oceania...however you want to call it...is classed separately from the Asian mainland.

And just to prove which are the MORE rabid fans per country. The US had the largest contingent of foreign fans who travelled all the way to South Africa 2010 to follow its team on a per country basis.

Why is this forum full of stupid, wipe-as*es??

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Old October 17th, 2010, 04:53 AM   #7368
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Yeah, you'll really get 400million.

And, I'm an idiot am I? Not really nice if you ask me, that's the rift I'm getting from most Americans in this section. :/
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Old October 17th, 2010, 05:00 AM   #7369
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Yeah, you'll really get 400million.

And, I'm an idiot am I? Not really nice if you ask me, that's the rift I'm getting from most Americans in this section. :/
Because if you throw in 2 billion...then we can throw in another 600 million from So. America and the Caribbean; and if you want another 500 million from Europe who are only 6 hours away by plane.

And obviously, you are unfamiliar with the way they make the credible claims in the bid books, Olympic or WC.

Your Asian market who can afford to go to an Aus WC, in any sort of numbers that matter, would be from Japan & Korea--pretty much the only 2 Asian teams that manage to make the final 32. You are dishonestly counting China, India, Indonesia, Bangladesh, etc., whose teams barely make a dent in the WC radar. So your claim is disingenous and distorted.
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Old October 17th, 2010, 05:19 AM   #7370
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I didn't say can afford to come, but they can afford to watch & at a decent time aswell.

And this 2 billion, it's a prime time viewing area for the whole of Asia and Europe & Africa will get decent times aswell. (miday)
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Old October 17th, 2010, 05:25 AM   #7371
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Why waste a WC on Australia when you have a real Asian WC in China in 2026.

1 billion > 20 million.
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Old October 17th, 2010, 05:38 AM   #7372
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Because Australia, are bidding.

Why, waste a WC on a country that has already held it? When other countries that have never held it can do it just as good, if not better?
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Old October 17th, 2010, 05:47 AM   #7373
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USA withdrew from 2018 Bid. This means I'm almost absolutely sure England will get it.
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Old October 17th, 2010, 06:17 AM   #7374
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Why waste a WC on Australia when you have a real Asian WC in China in 2026.

1 billion > 20 million.
China's football team are rubbish and their football hierarchy is filled with corruption. China struggled in hosting the Olympic games which is a one city event, to host a world cup which is a multi-city event is another totally different kettle of fish. We've seen even recently the issues that China has had with their transportation network, best of luck hosting a football world cup. Put it simply, China is not ready as of yet and perhaps 2034 would be a perfect time for China to host it or possibly even then they may not be ready. People can say China China China, like a lot of idiots in various nations whom I won't go into, but if China themselves know they can't do it, then who the heck are these people to claim otherwise? Look at the facts, the facts simply don't stack up for China. If Asia is to host a world cup, then it has to be in Australia for 2022. Australia has never hosted the event, they are the number one footballing nation in Asia in terms of rankings, they've developed their game immensely within the last decade or two, they've developed their own league without a world cup as in other nations with major developing footballing leagues and combined with that the fact New Zealand is also next door to them and Oceania = an area for FIFA which hasn't been visited at all but somehow the game survives there and it's the chance to reward a nation who's achieved a lot for football without really much support from FIFA. Both Australia and New Zealand have fantastic tourist destinations as well, Australia is in the same prime time zone as well for the majority of the Asian television market, they've got the infrastructure, the will, a fantastic economy and it's a certainly a nation that's proven they can do the job better than almost anyone in the past (i.e the 2000 olympic games).


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Old October 17th, 2010, 06:36 AM   #7375
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Old October 17th, 2010, 06:43 AM   #7376
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So thats where Qatr got their votes...
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Old October 17th, 2010, 06:47 AM   #7377
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Yours is the MORE idiotic comment. When I said 400,000,000 million people in the North American market, that's people right there in one land mass who only have to cross one border to see a game. A lot of Mexican fans can easily get to LA or Houston games. Canadians can get to the Seattle, Boston venues WITHOUT HAVING to buy a PLANE ticket--unlike the 2 billion solopo*p claimed. Duh!!

Will two billion come to AUstralia to watch a WC? Of course not. That is an even more idiotic claim. Besides, Australia only gets thrown in with the Asian confederation only for competitive purposes--NOT for marketing purposes. For marketing purposes, Oz/Micro/Oceania...however you want to call it...is classed separately from the Asian mainland.

And just to prove which are the MORE rabid fans per country. The US had the largest contingent of foreign fans who travelled all the way to South Africa 2010 to follow its team on a per country basis.

Why is this forum full of stupid, wipe-as*es??
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Old October 17th, 2010, 07:17 AM   #7378
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That's a numerous allegation from Britain. If this turn out to be yet again fake Britain would have an only option - to withdraw from WC2018.
Uhhh.. Britain are not bidding for WC
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Old October 17th, 2010, 07:25 AM   #7379
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Why waste a WC on Australia when you have a real Asian WC in China in 2026.

1 billion > 20 million.
Endemic corruption on a grand scale

Shitness of national team

Pollution concerns

Logistics concerns

Freedom of fan movement concerns


Not saying China can't host a world cup, but that unlike an Australian or USA it's not reasonably hassle free or without risk.
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Old October 17th, 2010, 07:26 AM   #7380
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Very interesting how this will pan out...
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