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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old October 19th, 2010, 12:56 PM   #7541
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One is an Asian country and one is a European country. Guess away.

Vote selling is a no-no. Props to them for finally investigating, and hopefully prosecuting it.
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Well, their hand has been forced, I'll give them a little bit of credit for doing the right thing but not much.
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Old October 19th, 2010, 01:01 PM   #7543
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One is an Asian country and one is a European country. Guess away.

Vote selling is a no-no. Props to them for finally investigating, and hopefully prosecuting it.
agree with all that, you think it will happen though? FIFA is very good at pretending to care about corruption, but not actually doing anything about it

who you have your money on for the two countries btw?
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Old October 19th, 2010, 01:16 PM   #7544
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agree with all that, you think it will happen though? FIFA is very good at pretending to care about corruption, but not actually doing anything about it
That's just it. The 'investigating' is the 'pretending to care' part, and the 'prosecuting' is the 'not doing anything about it' part.

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Gotta go with Russia and Qatar.
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Old October 19th, 2010, 01:21 PM   #7545
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USA&England me thinkies.
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Old October 19th, 2010, 01:23 PM   #7546
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Gotta go with Russia and Qatar.
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Old October 19th, 2010, 01:26 PM   #7547
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That's just it. The 'investigating' is the 'pretending to care' part, and the 'prosecuting' is the 'not doing anything about it' part.



Gotta go with Russia and Qatar.
At $10 million a vote x 13=$130 million
Very cheap investment considering a few bids have limitless budgets
Four or five bids just wouldn't be able to do it unless there was private money being splashed around
I really can't see a number of bids doing things on this scale
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That's just it. The 'investigating' is the 'pretending to care' part, and the 'prosecuting' is the 'not doing anything about it' part.



Gotta go with Russia and Qatar.
exactly

on your guesses, I'm with you

Russia I'll be surprised if they get hit, Sepp loves "new" markets, and seems to have been supportive of Russia

Qatar on the other hand.... the bid is a non-compliant one, so it will go down amyway. Its also been championed by the guy going for his job. I wouldn't be surprised if Sepp has the numbers that Qatar feels his wrath

that being said, who the heck knows what will happen
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Old October 19th, 2010, 02:46 PM   #7549
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Nigeria was openly supporting UK because of "political reasons", so it's more likely was because of "financial support".
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Old October 19th, 2010, 02:53 PM   #7550
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This Russian guy must be really worried about his bid...check out the jabs he just threw at England. Total bitch move.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/st...833638&cc=5901
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Old October 19th, 2010, 03:11 PM   #7551
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I saw that

this is gunna get ugly - its against the rules to do this, but obviously they are feeling the pressure

Coth - don't you think Nigeria may be a tad closer to the English bid that the Russian given the banner situation and they way it was effectively shrugged off in Russia?
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Old October 19th, 2010, 03:13 PM   #7552
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there has been a lot even worse moves from britain. he was just commenting those british attacks.



and there has been no any "banner situation". it was all the story made up by british press.
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Old October 19th, 2010, 03:15 PM   #7553
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No it wasn't - the player in question was offended, the Nigerian FA complained to FIFA about it, Kick it Out weren't happy, and even Sorokin eventually conceded it was racist, but only when trying to make a point that there is also racism in England (I don't think he noticed the implication contradicted his earlier statements when he made that claim).

The press may have blown it out of proportion somewhat (though the Russian reaction to it was one reason for this - they could have put it to bed by saying they'd punish the perpetrators rather than stupidly insisting it wasn't racist). It certainly wasn't "made up" though!

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there has been a lot even worse moves from britain. he was just commenting those british attacks.



and there has been no any "banner situation". he was all the story made up by british press.
yes, but people get arrested for it, or at least banned from the stadium for x number of years. what punishment did these fans get

again, its against the rules for bidding countries to slag each other off

edit - just saw your last post - are you seriously saying it didn't happen and the british press made it up?!?!? they were photographed having the banner at the game
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Old October 19th, 2010, 03:16 PM   #7555
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That's a numerous allegation from Britain. If this turn out to be yet again fake Britain would have an only option - to withdraw from WC2018.
Don't be daft. The revelation of cheating through the British media has been top class. There's no hiding for cheating liars.
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Old October 19th, 2010, 03:21 PM   #7556
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first article I've found naming any country: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle604223.html

FIFA set to suspend crooked duo

FIFA chiefs are set to suspend shamed duo Amos Adamu and Reynald Temarii tomorrow – and have opened a probe into claims that Spain and Qatar have been part of an illegal vote-bartering cartel.

As Russia bid chief Alexei Sorokin broke FIFA rules by launching a wild attack on the England campaign, FIFA President Sepp Blatter carpeted the two members of his Executive Committee who were caught on camera demanding cash for votes.

Nigerian Adamu was forced to beg for *Blatter’s forgiveness at an emergency meeting in Zurich, while Tahitian Temarii, head of Oceanian football, admitted he had “made a mistake” in his conversations with undercover reporters.

Both men have been summoned to explain themselves to FIFA’s Ethics Committee tomorrow, but the signs are that they will be suspended from the 24-member Ex-Co prior to being booted out of FIFA.
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The governing body said: “FIFA has asked the chairman of the Ethics Committee to act without delay to take all possible steps.

“Investigations are also ongoing in relation to other FIFA officials who may have been involved in the issue in question.”

Blatter is still understood to be demanding the votes for both tournaments will be held, as scheduled, in Zurich on December 2, despite calls for a postponement.
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Old October 19th, 2010, 03:33 PM   #7557
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Sorokin's rather put his foot in it today with his comments which are pretty much against the rules of conduct in this bidding race.

I know they're a rebuttle to certain press comments about Russia's bid, but he's not a journalist but a member of the Russia 2018 bid team, and is therefore sailing very close to the wind. Nobody in England's bid team has made public comments about Russia's bid, by contrast.

Risking FIFA sanctions by criticising a rival is a foolish move on his part; he's probably just stirring it, but, as I said, he's sailing close to the wind, especially if FIFA are in the mood to clamp down on anything untoward, which they may well be.
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Old October 19th, 2010, 03:44 PM   #7558
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Are the English the only one who play by the rules? And one things for sure. The English might be a curse on certain things to do with the nation but they dont half make the rest of the world out for what they truly are.

Dog eat dog world. God love the British press.
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Old October 19th, 2010, 04:01 PM   #7559
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Sorokin's rather put his foot in it today with his comments which are pretty much against the rules of conduct in this bidding race.

I know they're a rebuttle to certain press comments about Russia's bid, but he's not a journalist but a member of the Russia 2018 bid team, and is therefore sailing very close to the wind. Nobody in England's bid team has made public comments about Russia's bid, by contrast.

Risking FIFA sanctions by criticising a rival is a foolish move on his part; he's probably just stirring it, but, as I said, he's sailing close to the wind, especially if FIFA are in the mood to clamp down on anything untoward, which they may well be.
Did you actually read an original text of his replies in Russian? Guardian sometimes might be good, but this time it's an example of low quality press.

http://www.sport-express.ru/newspaper/2010-10-18/9_1/
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care to tell us what he actually said?
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