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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old June 28th, 2006, 03:14 PM   #741
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Who'll host 2014 then?
Brazil, so long as they get their act together.

Otherwise, another South American country, if it is ready. Failing that, as a last resort, it will go to USA or Mexico.
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Old June 28th, 2006, 04:42 PM   #742
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Brazil, so long as they get their act together.

Otherwise, another South American country, if it is ready. Failing that, as a last resort, it will go to USA or Mexico.
Interesting...but what makes you so sure? I'd love to see a WC in Brazil, but do you think they have sufficient standards of infrastructure and stadia as well as the money to carry out any necessary upgrades etc?

Anywhere is S/A would be a super location though, IMO.

I suppose they will decide around 2008-9ish?
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Old June 28th, 2006, 06:35 PM   #743
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Interesting...but what makes you so sure? I'd love to see a WC in Brazil, but do you think they have sufficient standards of infrastructure and stadia as well as the money to carry out any necessary upgrades etc?

Anywhere is S/A would be a super location though, IMO.

I suppose they will decide around 2008-9ish?
Possible problems with infrastructure and stadia are the only reason why it is not yet 100% certain to be Brazil.

In every other respect, Brazil is the preferred choice. FIFA have already said that the 2014 tournament will be held in South America (the continent hasn't hosted the World Cup since 1978). And the South American confederation (CONMEBOL) has already unanimously backed Brazil as their choice. They are, after all, THE great football nation and they haven't hosted the tournament since 1950.

Provided that Brazil can convince FIFA that they will have made the necessary improvements to stadia and infrastructure by 2014, they will be announced hosts in 2008 (the decision is usually made six years before the tournament).
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Old June 28th, 2006, 08:08 PM   #744
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Possible problems with infrastructure and stadia are the only reason why it is not yet 100% certain to be Brazil.

In every other respect, Brazil is the preferred choice. FIFA have already said that the 2014 tournament will be held in South America (the continent hasn't hosted the World Cup since 1978). And the South American confederation (CONMEBOL) has already unanimously backed Brazil as their choice. They are, after all, THE great football nation and they haven't hosted the tournament since 1950.

Provided that Brazil can convince FIFA that they will have made the necessary improvements to stadia and infrastructure by 2014, they will be announced hosts in 2008 (the decision is usually made six years before the tournament).
You're so right! So many things I didn't even consider before, like 1) S/A havent hosted a WC since 1978, 2) no Brazil WC since 1950, etc etc

Well, it seems highly likely to be held in Brazil then.

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Old June 29th, 2006, 03:40 AM   #745
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Of course.

But, I repeat: FIFA and the IOC are two entirely separate organisations and the World Cup and the Olympic Games are two entirely different events. Each organisation may know what the other is doing. They may well consult. But they will not - absolutely not - make their decisions on which country will host the World Cup or which city will host the Olympic Games on the basis of what the other organisation has decided.

Countries like the USA, Italy and Germany have all hosted the Olympics, the Winter Olympics and the World Cup in recent years - in the case of the US, on more than one occasion. The latter two have also hosted the European Championship. France has hosted the World Cup, the winter Olympics and the European Championship.

Japan hosted the winter Olympics in 1998 and the World Cup in 2002. Mexico hosted the Olympics in 1968 and the World Cup only two years later. They then hosted the World Cup again in 1986. Germany hosted the Olympics in 1972 and the World Cup only two years later. The USA hosted the World Cup in 1994 and the Olympics only two years later. Spain hosted the World Cup in 1982 and the Olympics in 1992. South Korea hosted the Olympics in 1988 and the World Cup in 2002.

You're saying that all these countries can but now England can't? Complete and utter nonsense!

P.S. I'm well aware that some football matches during the 2012 Olympics will be played outside London. For some reason, that's what the IOC wanted. But honestly, you're being pedantic in the extreme. Those football matches will constitute about 0.00001% of the overall sporting events of the 2012 Olympics. I repeat: the Olympics is an event that is awarded to a City, not a country.


I was going to respond to Kuvvaci's comments untill I saw this, which basically says every thing I would have said! It isn't a case of England 'getting everything', it just so happens that London hasn't hosted the Olympics in ages and it put up the best bid and rightfully won the 2012 games, and it just so happens that England has not hosted the WC in 40 years (52 years by the time 2018 rolls around) and has every right to host the WC if they have the best bid. Don't start this nonsense of "England is not only country wich can host such events. Other countries can do very well..." cus that's just idiotic! Of course other countries can host events very well, it's not like England is trying to steal every event under the sun, I mean when was the last time you can remember that London/England had the Olympics/WC....you probably can't cus it was so long ago! It's just 2 events, seperated by a space of 6 years! Plenty of other countries have hosted the WC and Olympics in quicker succession!

If anything, the Olmpics could work in England's favour to show how great we are at hosting big tournaments!

Where were we anyway...oh yer, Greece/turkey....no chance!

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Old June 29th, 2006, 03:44 AM   #746
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Erm, you're not cutting through anything!

Merely repeating what I wrote a page back....and that didn't put a stop to the debate either!
Hey, gimme a break here ok? I was trying to sum up very briefly what no-one seems to have taken into account over the past few pages.

But you're right, it still probably won't stop this futile debate....

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Old June 29th, 2006, 11:26 AM   #747
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Why is there 2 of these threads?
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Old June 29th, 2006, 11:26 AM   #748
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oh Greece / italy
ignore what I said in the greece/turkey thread
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Old June 30th, 2006, 01:18 AM   #749
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can some1 stop this absolutely ridiculous debate
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Old July 7th, 2006, 12:36 PM   #750
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Your prefered FIFA WORLD CUP hots 2014 & 2018

Where would you want to see the 2014 and 2018 fifa world cups take place? Give a few reasons as to why you think your home nation or any nation for that matter should host the biggest and most watched sporting even in the world.
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Old July 7th, 2006, 12:40 PM   #751
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I'd love to see one of those two played in Australia. Don't really care about the other one although the English seem certain that 2018 is coming their way.
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Old July 7th, 2006, 12:55 PM   #752
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2014 definitely should go to Brazil - world's greatest football nation.
2018 I'd like to see it head to Eastern Europe tho' doubt it'll happen. Maybe Italy or Portugal/Spain
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Old July 7th, 2006, 12:59 PM   #753
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2014 definitely should go to Brazil - world's greatest football nation.
2018 I'd like to see it head to Eastern Europe tho' doubt it'll happen. Maybe Italy or Portugal/Spain
Italy had the World Cup in 1990 and Spain in 1982 - the FA would have grounds to feel a little aggrieved if England's bid was passed over again...
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Old July 7th, 2006, 01:06 PM   #754
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Old July 7th, 2006, 01:08 PM   #755
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Brazil & England

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2014 Brazil
2018 England
2022 Australia
2026 China
2030 Spain
2034 USA
2038 North African combined hosts
2042 Russia
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Old July 7th, 2006, 01:39 PM   #757
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How I expect it to go...

2014 Brazil
2018 England
2022 China
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Old July 7th, 2006, 01:58 PM   #758
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2014 Brazil
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Old July 7th, 2006, 02:02 PM   #759
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There are 4 continents playing soccer. Shouldn't come back to Europe for 16 years. Just using the Olympic logic used on this very board. South America should be 2014. North America or Asia should be 2018.
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There are 4 continents playing soccer. Shouldn't come back to Europe for 16 years. Just using the Olympic logic used on this very board. South America should be 2014. North America or Asia should be 2018.
The idea of rotation was never taken seriously by FIFA, it was only introduced to make sure South Africa got 2010 as Blatter depended on the votes of African countries to get re elected.
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