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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old October 20th, 2010, 10:53 PM   #7681
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head of russian bid insults english bid in public which against the rules probably ruins bid. shame would like to see a russian world cup one day
Another dumbie?

Great job, British propaganda.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 10:57 PM   #7682
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Another dumbie?

Great job, British propaganda.
Oh come on, you can't deny the Russian FA have handled it badly. The banana banner wouldn't have been a major story if the Russian bid executive had condemned it as wrong, as any other FA would. But no, he didn't, and that's what's proven painful for your bid.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 10:58 PM   #7683
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Did you even watch ANY of Russian news. Can you even name some of the channels? Can you give exact examples of "propaganda", videos, timeline, words in report and it's proofs as lie?

Don't say about things you know nothing about.

Why some think that they are "experts" in everything. maybe the problem in you?
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Old October 20th, 2010, 10:59 PM   #7684
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Nobody in the UK agrees with you. Full. Stop. In fact, quite the opposite, the UK media always seems keen to play down our own country, rather than present it as the glorious motherland.

Russians accusing other countries of having propaganda in media. Kind of like Dawn French running a weight loss class.
You can't say mean things about Dawn French. Its an SSC rule!

The English media are anything but propaganda, in face, quite the opposite. They will sensationalize everything, report on everything, tear down any bid by England or London, and sensationalize any small aspect of London 2012 and its preparations.

Would have been 900 times more harsh if London faced Delhi-type preparations.

They predicted earthquakes, machete gangs, floods, chaos in South Africa for the WC.

What an idiot.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 10:59 PM   #7685
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Where did Sorokin "insulted" British bid?
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:00 PM   #7686
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Another dumbie?

Great job, British propaganda.
This must be one of your finest moments. Declaring that the British media are responsible for propaganda.

You really have absolutely no clue...hahaha.

Oh well.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:02 PM   #7687
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As you see, he wrote that Sorokin "insulted British bid". It's a result of hysteria in british media, which made him think so, no matter of reality. This is propaganda. A person judging other by what some journalists thought up to make a sensation.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:03 PM   #7688
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Did you even watch ANY of Russian news. Can you even name some of the channels? Can you give exact examples of "propaganda", videos, timeline, words in report and it's proofs as lie?

Don't say about things you know nothing about.

Why some think that they are "experts" in everything. maybe the problem in you?
Can you name the differences between The Sun and The Times?

Point exactly.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:06 PM   #7689
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Can you name the differences between The Sun and The Times?

Point exactly.
Sure, you ignored the question and tried to change theme. Nothing new.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:07 PM   #7690
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As you see, he wrote that Sorokin "insulted British bid". It's a result of hysteria in british media, which made him think so, no matter of reality. This is propaganda. A person judging other by what some journalists thought up to make a sensation.
He did publicly insult a host city as a means of winning a bid, which is bid slandeing, and is illegal. Facts, my friend.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:09 PM   #7691
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You've had one account removed from this forum so kindly go **** yourself before you lose another Russia__WC__2018.

It's quite clear that the Russians on this forum are a lower class of thinker, and they're doing nothing to sell their bid to people outside their country. I'm fed up with any discussions around the Russian bid turning into discussions about the British press, about criticisms of the Russian bid turning into rants about propaganda. You guys are doing nothing to help the image of Russian democracy when free dicussion and freedom of the press seem to be an anethema to you all.

Even when the media was criticising Delhi's preparations for the 2010 CWGs and some Indians on this forum were blaming the press for their ills, there were always others who could see things for what they really were. Sadly, all the Russians in this thread fall into the former category and none into the latter. Quite extroadinary and quite sad.

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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:10 PM   #7692
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Sure, you ignored the question and tried to change theme. Nothing new.
You asked me if I knew anything about Russian media, I asked you if you knew anything about British media, which you obviously don't.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:12 PM   #7693
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He did publicly insult a host city as a means of winning a bid, which is bid slandeing, and is illegal. Facts, my friend.
No. Insulting a bid means talking how bad are Bid managers, how bad is a Bid proposals, programs, personal accusations of Bid members.

1) Stating the fact about situation in London has nothing common with Bid. 2) Stating the fact is not an "insult". 3) Read context. He said that, oppositely, Russia doesn't act like UK media, and gave examples for better understanding for journalist and readers.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:14 PM   #7694
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Nobody makes you to discuss it. Better don't provoke others, and there wil be no battles.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:17 PM   #7695
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You asked me if I knew anything about Russian media, I asked you if you knew anything about British media, which you obviously don't.
I watch and read British media. You obviously don't do it with Russian media in both cases.

Name at least 2 news channels (without using wiki). And give examples of "propaganda" with exact facts and proofs.

If you can't - don't say that "Russian talking about propaganda is like ..."

Especially in time, when more and more people realise how lies on British channels came to an aggression against sovereign country.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:18 PM   #7696
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Nobody makes you to discuss it. Better don't provoke others, and there wil be no battles.
Hypocrite of the day prize goes to....

Russia_WC_2018!!!!

Hurrah, let's see what you've won!
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:22 PM   #7697
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I watch and read British media. You obviously don't do it with Russian media in both cases.

Name at least 2 news channels (without using wiki). And give examples of "propaganda" with exact facts and proofs.

If you can't - don't say that "Russian talking about propaganda is like ..."

Especially in time, when more and more people realise how lies on British channels came to an aggression against sovereign country.
You read so much British media, name the differences between The Sun and The Times, then.

I'll give you a statistic instead:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:24 PM   #7698
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I watch and read British media. You obviously don't do it with Russian media in both cases.

Name at least 2 news channels (without using wiki). And give examples of "propaganda" with exact facts and proofs.

If you can't - don't say that "Russian talking about propaganda is like ..."

Especially in time, when more and more people realise how lies on British channels came to an aggression against sovereign country.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:26 PM   #7699
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After all that comments above you should be last who should speak on ostensible racism in Russia. No ethnic tolerance, no moral tolerance, no respectfulness, no manners at all.
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Old October 20th, 2010, 11:27 PM   #7700
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You read so much British media, name the differences between The Sun and The Times, then.

I'll give you a statistic instead:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
Again this Soros-financed "Reporters Without Borders" fairytales. Fail.

How did this "freedom" stopped illegal invasion and killing of million of innoncent civillians?

And how many hundreds of thousands were killed because of Russian "totalitarian press"?

This is so a manipulation for dumbies without brains.

Talking about "hypocrisy" - just look at last 5-6 pages and comments of some brits.

I repeat: you are not an "expert" in everything only because you think so.

"Superiority complex" is a decease.
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