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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old October 21st, 2010, 01:44 AM   #7721
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Lol, you just insulted every single member of your population. Win!
and you insulted every russian here as well. so who is ethnicist now?

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Please ban this ******* idiot.

Or at the very least explain to me why, when someone has been thrown out of this forum they are allowed to create a new account with the same avatar and carry on posting rubbish without an immediate account deletion. Mods?
just stop provoking, insulting and offending and you won't get same behavior towards you.
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Old October 21st, 2010, 02:02 AM   #7722
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The Russians here would be best advised to stop derailing threads with references to other political matters. It would be about as if British or American forumers talked about the indignities in Chechnya, or mysterious disappearing journalist, or the crimes of the Soviet Union. Nobody wants to hear your RT drummed up bitter side rants. Be mature, stick to the subject to at least some relative degree, and stop spamming and lashing out like children and there will not be a problem.
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Old October 21st, 2010, 02:10 AM   #7723
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it would be a shame for the democratic world if russia got 2018
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Old October 21st, 2010, 02:25 AM   #7724
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You read so much British media, name the differences between The Sun and The Times, then.

I'll give you a statistic instead:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
Hmm... You try to say that Western mass-media are not propagandic. And what you show me as irrefutable proof? Rating which was made by... Western reporters. Real brainwashing in Orwell-style.
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Old October 21st, 2010, 02:30 AM   #7725
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Oh come on, you can't deny the Russian FA have handled it badly. The banana banner wouldn't have been a major story if the Russian bid executive had condemned it as wrong, as any other FA would. But no, he didn't, and that's what's proven painful for your bid.
You haven't any argument against Russian bid expect one stupid banner. This story named "Much Ado About Nothing". Or "About Almost Nothing".
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Old October 21st, 2010, 02:34 AM   #7726
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He did publicly insult a host city as a means of winning a bid, which is bid slandeing, and is illegal. Facts, my friend.
So when British politicans discuss this problem in Parliament and TV-channel report about it - is it also personal insult for Britain?

Really, guys, are you sure that there are no problems with crime and youth alcologolism in London?
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Old October 21st, 2010, 02:41 AM   #7727
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it would be a shame for the democratic world if russia got 2018
Democrary vs. authoritarism. How is boring! You still see this world in black/white color.
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Old October 21st, 2010, 02:43 AM   #7728
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How many years do you want to go back? How was the occupation of Eastern Europe covered in the Soviet Press?
Come back in 1960s, dudes. You don't see any difference from these times

By the way, how was the occupation of Africa and Asia covered in the Press of British Empire?
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Old October 21st, 2010, 02:47 AM   #7729
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it would be a shame for the democratic world if russia got 2018
I think 2018 will be in Russia just like South Africa 2010 and Brazil 2014

South Africa much improve than before. maybe Russia will be same

sorry my bad english
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Old October 21st, 2010, 03:01 AM   #7730
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I facepalmed reading this thread. I speak russian, german, french and a bit of japanise and I read a lot of news. So.
Is media in general biased and censored? Yes.
Is russian media biased and censored? Hell, yes.
Is western media biased and censored? Hell, yes, but according to the ratings made by the westerners it's not.
Is japanise media biased? Yes. It is heavily censored as well. But noone really cares, because Japan is hi-tech, american war base and hentai.
Learn languages, read a lot and stop believing media in general.
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Old October 21st, 2010, 06:52 AM   #7731
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it would be a shame for the democratic world if russia got 2018
But would it be bad for the sport of soccer?
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Old October 21st, 2010, 09:26 AM   #7732
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Please ban this ******* idiot.

Or at the very least explain to me why, when someone has been thrown out of this forum they are allowed to create a new account with the same avatar and carry on posting rubbish without an immediate account deletion. Mods?
The most interesting thing is that it was you who claimed that the British media give too much BS and do not need to pay attention to it, it does not reflect the views of British society. However, you (as all British forumers) are not able to recognize that propaganda is part of this BS. Looking as all Brits are protect own media and offer to ban anyone who has a different point of view, I understand that in Britain, "Big Brother is still watching you".

Of course, the anti-Russian propaganda was always part of British journalism long before the Great Game. And only during 1941-1945, when you needed in our help, your mass-media changed the tone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russophobia

"During the 19th century, the competition between Russia and the Great Britain for the spheres of influence and colonies (see e.g. The Great Game and Berlin Congress) possibly was a reason for the Russophobia in Great Britain where British propaganda of the time portrayed Russians as uncultured Asiatic barbarians. These views spread to other parts of the world and were reflected in the literature of late 19th and early 20th centuries."

P.S. Nevertheless, propaganda is evidence of competition from Russian side. The fact that the British media so much criticize Russian bid, only proves that they are really afraid of competition. I would be concerned if the British media started to write positive articles.
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Old October 21st, 2010, 09:30 AM   #7733
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The Russians here would be best advised to stop derailing threads with references to other political matters.
Come on! Do you follow this thread? Who talks about press freedom, inflatable tanks, democracy?
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Old October 21st, 2010, 09:34 AM   #7734
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So it goes on..........
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Old October 21st, 2010, 09:38 AM   #7735
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England's 2018 rivals Spain have been confirmed as one of the two World Cup bidding countries, along with 2022 candidates Qatar, facing a FIFA inquiry over alleged vote rigging. The ethics committee, who on Tuesday voted unanimously to suspend the two FIFA executive members at the centre of the Sunday Times cash-for-votes corruption allegations, will investigate over the next month the separate allegations that Spain and Qatar have been trading votes between their 2018 and 2022 campaigns in breach of FIFA regulations.

High-level FIFA sources revealed that Spain and Qatar were the countries concerned, although they were not named during the press conference that announced that Nigeria's Amos Adamu and Oceania football chief Reynald Temarii had been provisionally suspended until the next ethics committee meeting makes a final decision next month. That summit will also decide whether Spain and Qatar will be removed from the December 2 vote in Zurich that will decide the venues of the next two World Cups. FIFA secretary general Jerome Valcke said: 'They have enough time to see if there is more than rumours of collusion, which are not allowed, and whether there are facts.'

The suspicions surrounding the Spanish bid can only help England's 2018 campaign.It now looks like a two-horse race between England and Russia, while Qatar's problems point to 2022 going to either the United States or Australia. Along with Adamu, who was caught on film by a Sunday Times investigation team asking for £500,000 earmarked for artificial pitches in Nigeria to be paid to him directly, and Temarii, who demanded £1.5million to build a sports complex in Auckland, four other FIFA officials were also suspended. They are Slim Aloulou, Amadou Diakite, Ahongalu Fusimalohi and Ismail Bhamjee.

Tonga's former FIFA ExCo member Fusimalohi's comments included his claims that England might not win the 2018 bid because they didn't do deals. The bans came as a result of the ethics committee being given full access to the English newspaper's findings. Ethics committee chairman Claudio Sulser said: 'This is a sad day for FIFA and football. We have a zero tolerance for any breach of ethics to protect FIFA's image, but we need to guarantee that the individuals affected are able to defend themselves. We do not want a public trial and respect their rights.' FIFA president Sepp Blatter said: 'Society is full of devils, but we have to fight for the ethics of FIFA. Confidence will be restored.'


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Old October 21st, 2010, 09:40 AM   #7736
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2022 candidates' world rankings:

21-Australia
25-USA
30-Japan
40-South Korea
109-Qatar

Come on Aussie!
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Old October 21st, 2010, 09:40 AM   #7737
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You read so much British media, name the differences between The Sun and The Times, then.
I'm read only articles about Russia. The articles about British internal policy are not interesting to me. In this aspect, I don't see much difference between a major British newspapers - and "The Sun", and "The Times" produce same BS.
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Old October 21st, 2010, 09:43 AM   #7738
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it would be a shame for the democratic world if russia got 2018
Can someone ban this guy, cause his trolling all the time
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Old October 21st, 2010, 09:43 AM   #7739
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He might have learnt his lesson
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Old October 21st, 2010, 09:45 AM   #7740
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The Russians here would be best advised to stop derailing threads with references to other political matters. It would be about as if British or American forumers talked about the indignities in Chechnya, or mysterious disappearing journalist, or the crimes of the Soviet Union. Nobody wants to hear your RT drummed up bitter side rants. Be mature, stick to the subject to at least some relative degree, and stop spamming and lashing out like children and there will not be a problem.
That's what the British here are doing as well, probably more than Russians. But of course, you British people are probably superior and are able to know what's true and what not. Stop thinking that you are the pope and can jugde everyone. England is not what is was a long time ago.
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