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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old October 24th, 2010, 12:47 PM   #7861
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Not only that,it will be the 100th year of internationals between Australia and New Zealand,the first taking place on June 17,1922.This was the birth of internationals in Oceania.And it will also be the centennial of internationals between Oceania and Asia

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Old October 24th, 2010, 02:25 PM   #7862
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England's 2018 World Cup campaign has been given a huge boost by the news that Russia's Prime Minister, Vladimir Putin, is resisting demands from his country's bid team to fly to Zurich for the vote by FIFA on December 2. Russia's leading politician, a former KGB agent, is believed to have had briefings that his country, joint favourites with England to host the 2018 finals, is short of votes to swing the decision their way.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...=feeds-newsxml
A lot of lie and false claims from British side is a good sign for Russian bid. They feel they are in troubles. Actually i believe UK should be disqualified just for this massive black PR campaign launched against Russia.


ps. All was said is "he will decide himself, so ask him".
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Old October 24th, 2010, 03:16 PM   #7863
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A lot of lie and false claims from British side is a good sign for Russian bid. They feel they are in troubles. Actually i believe UK should be disqualified just for this massive black PR campaign launched against Russia.
Was there some sort of promotion going on where you had to collect 5 crisp packets to becmoe a moderator?

For the 300th time, the England 2018 bid has NOTHING to do with what is written in our press and there is no more a PR campaign against Russia than there is against any other bid. Would you and other Russians in this thread get that into your skulls, because I'm pretty bored of repeating this point.

There's been a lot written about Qatar and Spain this week as well, and the biggest amount of damage our press did was to.......drum roll......the England 2018 bid. The British press haven't printed a story forcing the Russian bid leader to resign, but they have done for the English bid. Some PR campaign that is!

Furthermore, even if we are to take it that there's been a PR campaign against Russia, why do you believe England 2018 should be disqualified for what our press writes given that the two have no connection? Go on, tell me. You can't can you? There's no good reason for you saying that beyond the fact that, conveniently, it'd give your favoured bid an almost clear run! Perhaps that shows you feel your bid is "in troubles"!

Besides which, it is our press which has uncovered the thing you should really be worried about; vote selling within FIFA. Surely going by your logic England's bid should be declared automatic winners given that the contribution of the nation's press is clearly such an important factor in assessing a bid's merits.

In short coth, you could have clarified that article without the rest of the nonsense in your post.

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Old October 24th, 2010, 03:52 PM   #7864
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Not only that,it will be the 100th year of internationals between Australia and New Zealand,the first taking place on June 17,1922.This was the birth of internationals in Oceania.And it will also be the centennial of internationals between Oceania and Asia

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An American bid has upset a centennial before, just ask the Greeks why they had to wait until 2004 to host the Olympics.

But that is a nice coincidence, and I'm sure it'll be mentioned in Australia's final presentation.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 03:52 PM   #7865
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so what about the PR campaign against South Africa before the world cup? Was that England 2018 too?

Is everybody here 5? This place is filling up with idiots day after day

The English media tear apart anything and everything especially news related to the UK!

Seriously, Russia is not that special. Get over it.

Are people here really this dumb?
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Old October 24th, 2010, 04:05 PM   #7866
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Thanks Mo.

There wasn't - as you well know - a PR campaign against South Africa. It was never anything personal and nobody ever had anything against South Africa per se. It was the British Press overblowing stories to sell papers as is their wont on occassion. Same as they did when Lord Treisman had to resign as head of England's 2018 bid. I've always said I'm in favour of stronger press regulation in some areas to prevent this kind of nonsense.

On the other hand of course we have the very good investigative jouranalism the Sunday Times has been doing into FIFA's modus operandi, and the similar undercover documentary the BBC did into Olympic voting. These are both points which show our media can be the best in the world when it wants to be.

In any case, this isn't the thread for discussing press regulation in the UK or anywhere else for that matter. Our press isn't perfect. But only someone insecure about their own bid's chances would ever advocate barring England 2018 from the contest because of the British Press! Suggesting that makes about as much sense as barring the USA because of the Tea Party movement, or barring Japan because of their policies on whaling. In other words, it doesn't make sense.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 04:51 PM   #7867
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Some people here are taking the British press way too serious. In terms of sensationalism, the Brit press would have to be right up there. Our press in Oz aren't much better, but it sells papers.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 04:59 PM   #7869
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Some people here are taking the British press way too serious. In terms of sensationalism, the Brit press would have to be right up there. Our press in Oz aren't much better, but it sells papers.

English Press.Page 3=Girls
Fifa Rankings.Page 3 =Qatar


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Old October 24th, 2010, 05:06 PM   #7870
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Interesting perspective.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 05:07 PM   #7871
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Lol, I didn't want to start this again, but are you really this naive to believe that
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Old October 24th, 2010, 05:13 PM   #7872
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I've re-read that statement and I can see why you misinterpreted it.

What I meant is the England 2018 bid team has no influence over what is written in our press - beyond their own press releases which the press can decide to report on or not.

The fact that England is bidding, of course, means the Press take more interest and write more stories, but that's so obvious it goes without saying.

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Old October 24th, 2010, 05:18 PM   #7873
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Why would it be? I just can't understand how two entirely different entities are related? Yes the media will be saying all sorts of things about the other bids, they're also saying it about our bid too.

It's not as if there's some hidden secretive agenda set by the bid to discredit all the others, that's just outright paranoia.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 05:25 PM   #7874
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No, but in the questons concerning british national interests, the official point of view and what is written in your press is always the same. Actually, this applies to any country and it's quite alright.
Anyway, you spend so much time here protecting your british press, it seems you are a forum troll on sallary.
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If you think that you're very naive!
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Old October 24th, 2010, 05:31 PM   #7876
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It's not as if there's some hidden secretive agenda set by the bid to discredit all the others, that's just outright paranoia.
No, you are bashing one particular bid. It's quite natural to have a media campaign against your closest rival. Commitee members surely read more english press, than they do russian, so this might change their mind in favour of the british bid.
I've seen enough journalists from all over the world and they are all the same - expensive whores who would write anything to get PR and money.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 05:37 PM   #7877
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One would think that these days with internet and access to information that the naive views of many in this thread would be somewhat backwards or non-existent.

Its really fascinating what blind nationalism can do.
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Old October 24th, 2010, 05:39 PM   #7878
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No, you are bashing one particular bid. It's quite natural to have a media campaign against your closest rival. Commitee members surely read more english press, than they do russian, so this might change their mind in favour of the british bid.
I've seen enough journalists from all over the world and they are all the same - expensive whores who would write anything to get PR and money.
True,except(and I'm not knocking the Russian bid here)that most nations bidding will have a range of perspectives in their press-good and bad about their own bid and others.
Qatar would not have a press that would be negative in any way about their own bid,and neither would Russia I imagine.
The enemy within can be a negative.We've already seen it in England,Australia,USA,Holland that I know of
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_X_, can you imagine what king of shitstorm there would be if Russia mentioned its cons?
Here, the free press of the democratic world already told you everything about the bad of our bid and even came up with some that do not even exist
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So because committee members "surely read more British Press" that means it is extolling propaganda against the Russian Bid. I'm sure all members around the world regularly check up "The Sun" and the "Daily Mail" just to find out what to think about the Russian bid.

As for the British Press "bashing one particular bid", it slander's all equally, including our own! If the "committee members" surely read the British Press, that must mean they read all the negative stuff about our bid as well?

Other than a few reputable sources pretty much all of the British Press are in it to make stories out of nothing and sell papers, and the more controversy that is stirred up because of it, the more they will do it.
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