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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old October 27th, 2010, 07:53 PM   #8061
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Old October 27th, 2010, 08:44 PM   #8062
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truth hurst ? Qatar Gas & Oil run every thing in Australia fly & move from Air to ground , Qatar companies have , own and manage millions of investments in every Australian city.

it is normal when people says the bigger Australia is better than tiny Qatar, but what realy hurts you and these Australian guys to see all these votes around tiny Qatar bid
yes, but how does that have anything to do with Australian expertise being a major asset outsourced to the rest of the world, running a large part of the Asian Games....?

Qatar has absolutely nothing on Australia, perhaps except money.
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Old October 27th, 2010, 11:52 PM   #8063
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yes, but how does that have anything to do with Australian expertise being a major asset outsourced to the rest of the world, running a large part of the Asian Games....?

Qatar has absolutely nothing on Australia, perhaps except money.
Australia is larger Qatar more than 100x times and there no compare and this normal thing while tiny Qatar has lots things better than Australia and this counted for them as small country between large bidding countries, Qatar bid have many supporters and easly can make more than 10 votes include their vote while Australia hardly can have supporters and their bid the only bid dont have seat in FIFA what make their chances very weak and possible they get out from first round.
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Old October 28th, 2010, 12:13 AM   #8064
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and they have 9 more cities.
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Old October 28th, 2010, 12:45 AM   #8065
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Australia is larger Qatar more than 100x times and there no compare and this normal thing while tiny Qatar has lots things better than Australia and this counted for them as small country between large bidding countries, Qatar bid have many supporters and easly can make more than 10 votes include their vote while Australia hardly can have supporters and their bid the only bid dont have seat in FIFA what make their chances very weak and possible they get out from first round.
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Australia is larger than Qatar by more than a 100 times, and there no compare and this normal thing[no idea what you mean here] while tiny Qatar has lots of things that are better than what Australia has, and this has helped them as a small country between large bidding countries. The Qatar bid has many supporters and can easily make more than 10 votes including their vote, while Australia can hardly have supporters. Their bid is the only bid that doesn't have a seat in FIFA. This lack of a seat makes their chances very weak and creates the possibility that they get eliminated in the first round.
Ok, so I finally broke down trying to breakdown what you typed. I tried my best to translate it, but there is still a bit of awkward wording here and there. Also, I did not understand what you were trying to say in the area I highlighted blue, so it remains unchanged.

Could you please find a better translating tool? It would help you become a more effective writer, as well as get your point across in an easy to understand manner.
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Old October 28th, 2010, 02:43 AM   #8066
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Ok, so I finally broke down trying to breakdown what you typed. I tried my best to translate it, but there is still a bit of awkward wording here and there. Also, I did not understand what you were trying to say in the area I highlighted blue, so it remains unchanged.

Could you please find a better translating tool? It would help you become a more effective writer, as well as get your point across in an easy to understand manner.
Ease up.

English isn't his first language.

I dare say that he's making a better fist of it than any of us would of writing Arabic!

I can understand him perfectly well enough.
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Old October 28th, 2010, 03:30 AM   #8067
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Ease up.

English isn't his first language.

I dare say that he's making a better fist of it than any of us would of writing Arabic!

I can understand him perfectly well enough.
Maybe its not so much the way he expresses himself but the dribble that he spurts out.He basically has zero understanding of FIFA's bidding criteria in relation to their history and statutes.
Following the stance from InsCo,Doha's revolutionary dream of a narrow,homogeneous logistical nightmare suffered its first mortal blow.
A number of committees are set to have their 2 bob on their outrageous bid.EthCo are currently investigating them on 3 counts-2 of which are extremely serious,while TecCo and ExCo will evaluate InsCo's bid reports.

This bid will be incredibly lucky to make it to the starters gate,let alone win hosting rights.They have a far better , legal,diverse bid in a co-hosting with UAE ahead of them.

In the meantime they need to build a local football culture that sees their own people actually turn up and pay to go to matches.The need to dump the severe,contemptuous Nationalising program at Aspire ,and concentrate on developing their own players,from their own pool of 300,000 Qatari Nationals.They need to get into the top 100,then the top 50 to be taken more seriously regarding the Worlds show-piece football event.They need to develop a womens team,a travelling fan culture and they must do something about human trafficking

Stop trying to prove yourself Qatar,your time will come-but in other forms.FIFA would never risk devaluing the World Cup in a sole bid as yours.You may win it in a co-hosting,that is your only option
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Old October 28th, 2010, 03:54 AM   #8068
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For the 2022 WC voting process, bid countries have:

Australia: 1 (Bekhenbauer)
Japan: 1 (Japan Exco)
Korea: 1 (Korea Exco)
Qatar: 1 (Qatar Exco)
USA: 3 (CONCACAF Exco)

Temarii and Adamu being suspended, 12 votes are needed to win the WC.
The rest of voters will decide for it*.
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Old October 28th, 2010, 04:59 AM   #8069
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The governments of Portugal and Qatar are discussing a number of agreements in four key areas of co-operation, Portuguese Minister of Economy and Innovation Jose Vieira da Silva has said. In an exclusive interview with Gulf Times, da Silva, who led a 15-member delegation to Qatar on a two-day visit concluding yesterday, said bilateral co-operation is being discussed in banking and finance, tourism, telecommunication and energy sectors. “We are preparing a co-operation agreement in tourism sector, which is likely to be finished in a few months. In Portugal tourism chips in 11% of GDP,” da Silva said. The possibility, according to him, is Qatari companies investing in resorts and hotels in Portugal.

“Another agreement pertains to economic co-operation and will include things like protection of investment and other instruments. I hope we can finalise (these) before the end of 2010,” he added.During his visit to Doha, which began on Sunday, the minister met HE the Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim bin Jabor al-Thani, HE the Minister of State for Energy and Industry, and heads of Qatari Diar, Qatar Holding and Qtel.
“Portuguese companies individually met with Qatari Diar, and Qatar Petroleum International,” he said. “The purpose of the visit was to reinforce the co-operation in the relationship between Qatar and Portugal and came as a follow up of the visit of HE the Qatari PM to Portugal some months ago, where both PMs emphasised the importance of the strength of the relationship,” da Silva said.

According to him, time is right for both countries to move beyond government-level relationship to where company to company partnerships can be created.Portugal is also interested in importing Qatari LNG. However, a deep-sea harbour is currently being developed to receive any supply, he said. “We are also interested in Qatar Airways. There are negotiations ongoing in order to have our own connection (between Doha and Lisbon),” da Silva explained. “This may take a couple of months to take off,” he added.
The former deputy PM of Portugal and chairman of Friendship Association Portugal-Qatar Jose Luis Arnaut said any relationship between Qatar and Portugal will be a win-win opportunity for both countries.


We all know what else was discussed here
http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topic...6&parent_id=16

Portugal have a fantastic history with this sort of stuff as well.

Portuguese police have arrested 16 referees and football executives, including the chairman of the country's league, in a major corruption probe. Police said the officials would be questioned about allegations of match-fixing, including forgery. League Chairman Valentim Loureiro and the head of the referees' panel, Antonio Pinto de Sousa, were among those held in raids on 60 premises. Portugal is gearing up to host the 16-nation Euro 2004 tournament in June.

Mr Loureiro, a former chairman of the Boavista football club, is also the mayor of the northern town of Gondomar. He was arrested in Oporto. Police swooped in "Operation Golden Whistle" after a year-long investigation which involved about 150 officers, the AFP news agency reported.

Among the premises searched were the offices of the Portuguese Football Federation (FPF) in Lisbon and of premier league club Sporting Braga.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3643515.stm
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Old October 28th, 2010, 05:12 AM   #8070
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why comparing australia to qatar? what if we compare australia to usa? now it turns out to be nothing on us scale
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Old October 28th, 2010, 05:29 AM   #8071
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Australia is "closer" to the US than Qatar is to Australia... It's doesn't take much to realise Australia punches well above its weight when it comes to sport, for the love of sport, whereas all Qatar does is punch out the money.
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Old October 28th, 2010, 06:01 AM   #8072
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why comparing australia to qatar? what if we compare australia to usa? now it turns out to be nothing on us scale
Did I hear someone say Alaska?

If you are talking about in terms of football?

Australia 21
USA 25
Qatar 109
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Old October 28th, 2010, 06:15 AM   #8073
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The World Cup 2018 Hosts betting odds make England the odds on favourites to win the vote and host the World Cup 2018. The race is now down to four bids and with the FIFA delegates meeting for the final time on Thursday before they make a decision we expect the World Cup 2018 Host betting odds to prove very popular this week.

A decision will be made on December 2nd 2010 and the closer we get to that time, the shorter the World Cup 2018 Host betting odds are likely to get on the favourites. England are currently expected to win the bid, they have pretty much been favourites from pillar to post having not hosted the World Cup since 1966 and can currently be backed at best odds of 4/5 with Coral whilst Ladbrokes go slightly shorter at 8/11. England won the World Cup the last time they hosted it so should they win the World Cup 2018 bid they would be a good bet to go all the way in eight years time. They are not expected to make a huge impact in Brazil in four years time though, you can get 20/1 with Stan James that England win the 2014 World Cup whilst they are as short as 12/1 with Ladbrokes.

http://www.online-betting-guide.co.u...avourites.html
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Old October 28th, 2010, 07:51 AM   #8074
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For the 2022 WC voting process, bid countries have:

Australia: 1 (Bekhenbauer)
Japan: 1 (Japan Exco)
Korea: 1 (Korea Exco)
Qatar: 1 (Qatar Exco)
USA: 3 (CONCACAF Exco)

Temarii and Adamu being suspended, 12 votes are needed to win the WC.
The rest of voters will decide for it*.
Sorry mate,just need to set things straight

Better make that Blazer-tick,Warner-maybe and as you're aware Salguero is under investigation re Qatar and vote swapping
As for the 12 votes,this isn't a lay down misere and Temarii will most likely be reinstated.Voting could be from 24,23,22,16,15 or 14 ExCo at this stage
Chung and Ogura will quickly join Australias cause further into voting
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[B]truth hurst ? Qatar Gas & Oil run every thing in Australia fly & move from Air to ground , Qatar companies have , own and manage millions of investments in every Australian city.
Um, Australia is a Natural Gas exporter. We don't use Qatari Gas or Oil.

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why comparing australia to qatar? what if we compare australia to usa? now it turns out to be nothing on us scale
Australians and Amercans aren't fighting because we have a deep understanding and respect for each other. Australian's haven't come on this forum proclaiming numerous votes already secured and that hosting is a foregone conclusion, dec 2 being a mere formality. All the while showing remarkable ignorance at the scale and culture of the event.

The US like Australia, South Korea and Japan all have provided bids which fullfill the conventional criterior of hosting a World Cup, no special exceptions needed for any of them.

Australian's actually recognise the USA as a legitimate and in many way's superior competitior but we have beaten strong competitiors before in a fair fight rather than a sleazy back door mess. The US has nothing to prove to Australia or the World when it comes to hosting these type of events, nor does Australia.

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Old October 28th, 2010, 08:27 AM   #8076
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Ease up.

English isn't his first language.

I dare say that he's making a better fist of it than any of us would of writing Arabic!

I can understand him perfectly well enough.
sure you can understand me even wasn't english my language but there always hooligans in football and racism.
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Yeah, we understand you Waqif. Most of us realise English is not your mother tounge.
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Old October 28th, 2010, 08:34 AM   #8078
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why comparing australia to qatar? what if we compare australia to usa? now it turns out to be nothing on us scale
no way .... that not fair to compare Australia with USA compare it with smaller countries maybe France or Germany both of them smaller than Australia but 100x times better than them and they won the world cup.
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Old October 28th, 2010, 08:48 AM   #8079
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no way .... that not fair to compare Australia with USA compare it with smaller countries maybe France or Germany both of them smaller than Australia but 100x times better than them and they won the world cup.
No, compare us to the US. Despite the fact we've got 290 million less people, I bet we'd still give them a run for their money ... more so than Doha Qatar.
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Um, Australia is a Natural Gas exporter. We don't use Qatari Gas or Oil.
even USA , UK , Kuwait , United Arab Emarities all of them have Oil & Gas and they imported gas & oil derivatives from Qatar.

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Australians and Amercans aren't fighting because we have a deep understanding and respect for each other. Australian's haven't come on this forum proclaiming numerous votes already secured and that hosting is a foregone conclusion, dec 2 being a mere formality. All the while showing remarkable ignorace at the scale and culture of the event.
even we are in deep understanding with Japaneses , Korean and Americans unless some hooligans and we are trust in our bid and we are not afraid of the result in 2 dec do you know why ! because when you lose between large countries possible but what Australians afraid of they lose against tiny Qatar
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