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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old November 16th, 2010, 04:17 PM   #8321
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SO, in Portugal...

Portugal host world champions and neighbours Spain on Wednesday in a friendly match aimed at promoting the countries' joint bid for the 2018 World Cup.



AND in England....

England will line up in front of a sold-out Wembley to take on France. A capacity crowd of 90,000 is expected for the friendly international.



AND in Doha...


Looking to put their World Cup blues behind them, Brazil and bitter South American rival Argentina will play an eagerly anticipated friendly in the Gulf which will also herald the return of playmaker Ronaldinho in a yellow shirt.

Wednesday's match will be a key test for Brazil's coach Mano Menezes and Argentina's Sergio Batista as they gear up for the Copa America, the South American championship in July which Argentina will host.





MEANWHILE the Qatar football team yesterday were doing this...







Are there any other matches going on in the next couple of weeks which will promote World Cup bids?
and in South Africa, South Africa face USA II at a sold out Cape Town stadium (51,000). The Fan Walk and City to Stadium BRT system will be activated.

This is good promotion for Cape Town 2026 World Cup bid.
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Old November 16th, 2010, 04:18 PM   #8322
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We expect you to keep your word..
Please reduce your font size, and do not use bold text in all your posts.
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Old November 16th, 2010, 04:19 PM   #8323
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We expect you to keep your word..
Oh I will, trust me, I ain't planning on going to Qatar anytime soon.

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Old November 16th, 2010, 04:24 PM   #8324
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Oh I will, trust me, I ain't planning on going to Qatar anytime soon.

Keeping your date with Glenn Beck?

Unlike you, we won't spill.
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Old November 16th, 2010, 04:30 PM   #8325
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Its always been an incredibly important day.
Other matches include


Egypt(11) - Australia(21)
17/11/2010 Cairo Friendly



South Africa - USA (25)
17/11/2010 Cape Town Friendly


Netherlands (2) - Turkey (29)
17/11/2010 Amsterdam Friendly



Russia (10) - Belgium (62)
17/11/2010 Voronezh Friendly


Qatar (109)- Haiti(128)
17/11/2010 Doha Friendly
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Old November 16th, 2010, 04:31 PM   #8326
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Surely Glenn Beck not liking soccer is just about the biggest argument FOR the USA getting 2022?
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Old November 16th, 2010, 04:31 PM   #8327
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Finding the police at the stadium - the main cause of unrest. Why do I need 2,000 police on 20000 stadium? The fans wanted to celebrate the title with Zenit players that this criminal?
I've been to three games in Russia, and one thing that stood out was that all games were ridiculously overpoliced. In fact the army were there too. I walked down the road to the Zenit stadium, and there were so many troops about I wonder if a miltary coup had taken place.

They were only playing Krylia Sovetov too, who are a few hundred miles away. They must have had a handful of fans there at most.


I also went to a Torpedo Moscow match, when they were at the Luzhniky Stadium. Even that had enough police/army there to overthrow a small country. They were playing Rotor Volgograd. I don't know exactly how far Volgograd is from Moscow, but let's just say if you were a travelling fan, you wouldn't want it to be your turn to drive when it's Volgograd away that weekend. They had perhaps a dozen fans there. They could have just been assigned a policeman each and saved a lot of money.
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Old November 16th, 2010, 04:43 PM   #8328
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Also noted that Qatar are backing up after the big match against Haiti(128) with the following 3 big ones
Kuwait(103) - Qatar(109)
22/11/2010 Sana'A Friendly
Yemen (117) - Qatar(109)
25/11/2010 Sana'A Friendly
Qatar (109)- Saudi Arabia (71)

The 5 teams have an aggregate rating of 528 at an average of 105.6
Should be some big crowds
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Also noted that Qatar are backing up after the big match against Haiti(128) with the following 3 big ones
Kuwait(103) - Qatar(109)
22/11/2010 Sana'A Friendly
Yemen (117) - Qatar(109)
25/11/2010 Sana'A Friendly
Qatar (109)- Saudi Arabia (71)

The 5 teams have an aggregate rating of 528 at an average of 105.6
Should be some big crowds
That is some high quality shit right there. Definitely deserves to host a world cup. Qatar 2022 the first WC to be awarded to a team ranked worse than 100!!
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Old November 16th, 2010, 05:11 PM   #8330
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That is some high quality shit right there. Definitely deserves to host a world cup. Qatar 2022 the first WC to be awarded to a team ranked worse than 100!!
Actually the whole area seems to specialise in rankings around the 100 mark.Its good to specialise at things,you get really good at them.You'll notice UAE are closest to the objective at 99.Listed is every ME nation.
61-Iran
71-Saudi
84-Bahrain
94-Iraq
95-Jordan
96-Oman
99-UAE
103-Kuwait
105-Syria
109-Qatar

117-Yemen
157-Lebanon
178-Palestine
196-Afghanistan

You can see they are a strong area,on par with Oceania
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Old November 16th, 2010, 05:30 PM   #8331
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That is some high quality shit right there. Definitely deserves to host a world cup. Qatar 2022 the first WC to be awarded to a team ranked worse than 100!!
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MEANWHILE the Qatar football team yesterday were doing this...

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High quality and football in Qatar don't go together.

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Old November 16th, 2010, 06:33 PM   #8332
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I've been to three games in Russia, and one thing that stood out was that all games were ridiculously overpoliced. In fact the army were there too. I walked down the road to the Zenit stadium, and there were so many troops about I wonder if a miltary coup had taken place.

They were only playing Krylia Sovetov too, who are a few hundred miles away. They must have had a handful of fans there at most.


I also went to a Torpedo Moscow match, when they were at the Luzhniky Stadium. Even that had enough police/army there to overthrow a small country. They were playing Rotor Volgograd. I don't know exactly how far Volgograd is from Moscow, but let's just say if you were a travelling fan, you wouldn't want it to be your turn to drive when it's Volgograd away that weekend. They had perhaps a dozen fans there. They could have just been assigned a policeman each and saved a lot of money.
You're absolutely right. I understand if this is the derby Spartak-CSKA or classico Spartak-Zenit in the Luzhniki Stadium. But even 1000 police near the stadium would be enough, and let them work within 300-500 professional stewards.
More than 90% of fights inside the stadiums is against the police. Because of this, as well as - for the bad old stadiums, we have a very low attendance in the league (about 13000). Among the fans of different clubs are very popular chants: "Football for the fans, not for the cops."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPMFwCp_p1E
I think that if we are up to 2018 will build new stadiums to replace the police and stewards hold the other improvements, the average attendance will be at least 25000. Russian Premier League will be in the world ranking for 3 spot, after the EPL and the Primera.
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Old November 16th, 2010, 06:39 PM   #8333
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High quality and football in Qatar don't go together.
well even big names wasting such goals not just young guy and they already won Asian Golden Medal before, not big miss their eyes on Asian Cup Jan 2011


Asia Golden Medal 2006

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Old November 16th, 2010, 06:55 PM   #8334
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Actually the whole area seems to specialise in rankings around the 100 mark.Its good to specialise at things,you get really good at them.You'll notice UAE are closest to the objective at 99.Listed is every ME nation.
61-Iran
71-Saudi
84-Bahrain
94-Iraq
95-Jordan
96-Oman
99-UAE
103-Kuwait
105-Syria
109-Qatar

117-Yemen
157-Lebanon
178-Palestine
196-Afghanistan

You can see they are a strong area,on par with Oceania
FIFA Ranking is a temporary thing and it is nothing Saudi Arabia Ranking 69 now but they have achievements such won Asia Cup Qatar Rank is 109 but they won Asia Gold Medal I knew team like Australia Ranked 21 they never won Asia Cup or it is Gold medal and all they have 3 red cards in their matches in WC 2010 a red card every match they played in wc 2010 lol after qualifed with Japan from group has Qatar & Bahrain both small countries and have 1 million population it will be scandal if they didnt qualifed lol to miss the 3 red cards in 3 matches lol

finally comparing Qatar with your big country rank is fair to this tiny country and of course Qatar have an advantage becouse they won Asia Gold Medal and you won nothing.

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Old November 16th, 2010, 09:44 PM   #8335
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FIFA Ranking is a temporary thing and it is nothing Saudi Arabia Ranking 69 now but they have achievements such won Asia Cup Qatar Rank is 109 but they won Asia Gold Medal I knew team like Australia Ranked 21 they never won Asia Cup or it is Gold medal and all they have 3 red cards in their matches in WC 2010 a red card every match they played in wc 2010 lol after qualifed with Japan from group has Qatar & Bahrain both small countries and have 1 million population it will be scandal if they didnt qualifed lol to miss the 3 red cards in 3 matches lol

finally comparing Qatar with your big country rank is fair to this tiny country and of course Qatar have an advantage becouse they won Asia Gold Medal and you won nothing.
what is the 'Asia Gold Medal'??? never heard of it and searching on Google doesn't bring up anything as well
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Old November 16th, 2010, 10:24 PM   #8336
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what is the 'Asia Gold Medal'??? never heard of it and searching on Google doesn't bring up anything as well
poor google
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Asian_Games
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Old November 16th, 2010, 10:58 PM   #8337
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England 2018 bid viewed as "low risk" despite concerns

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/9196434.stm

England's 2018 World Cup bid is viewed as low risk by Fifa, although the world governing body has flagged up concerns over training camp and hotel provision.

Due to be published on Wednesday, the executive summary - obtained by the BBC - will be key to Fifa's decision as to who will host the 2018 World Cup.

England's main rivals - the joint Spanish and Portuguese bid and Russia - were also given a "low risk" rating.

Across 17 risk categories, Russia is just behind England and Spain/Portugal.

But Fifa's executive summary does have some criticisms of England's bid.

"The bidder has not contracted the required number of venue-specific training sites or venue-specific team hotels," says the report.

"The bidder has contracted the required number of team base camp (TBC) hotels but has not contracted the required number of TBC hotels."

"Additional training sites, likely to be selected from England's existing range of professional club stadiums and training sites may have to be considered. The proposed TBC renovations would have to be ensured and some pairings should be reviewed"

"In terms of accommodation, the bidder proposes a relatively large inventory"


"However the fact that not many of the rooms have been contracted in full compliance with Fifa's template hotel agreement requires further analysis and potentially renegotiation. Fifa could be exposed to excessive pricing.

"The requirements for contractual documents have been met and the necessary government support has been secured with the exception if the reservations and qualifications to four government guarantees as contained in the government legal statement."

However, an England 2018 spokesman played down the significance of Fifa's comments saying: "These are minor contractual issues which are already being dealt with by Fifa."

More positively England's bid is given a glowing report on transport, IT infrastructure and technology, event safety, marketing, media and communication, while its £455m budget has been "submitted in the format required".

Russia's bid is also given a low legal risk grading, though perhaps surprisingly, no questions are raised over its plans to build 13 new stadiums for the tournament. The report also says the necessary government support has been secured.

But there is criticism of Russia's transport and technology infrastructure.

"The country's vastness and its remoteness from other countries, coupled with the fact that the high speed rail network is limited and...would put pressure on the air traffic infrastructure," says the report.

"Any delay in the completion of transport projects could impact on Fifa's tournament operations and the proposed installation of temporary facilities could impose a high cost burden."


The Fifa summary on the Spain and Portugal bid raises concerns over their decision to enter a joint bid.

"It should be noted that a co-hosting concept could pose challenges regarding the joint operational delivery of the Fifa World Cup in terms of ensuring consistent standards.

"Therefore in order to provide a more complete basis for evaluation of the co-hosting concept, further key operational details would be required."

The Iberian bid is also criticised over venue specific team hotels and training sites and asks for a complete inventory of contracted training sites.

Fifa also says that in some cases "city transport infrastructure requires attention", while as regards technology, "insufficient details are provided in the bid book to allow proper evaluation".

The only bidder for 2018 rated with a higher risk evaluation is the joint bid from Netherlands and Belgium, which is given a medium risk assessment.

The Low Countries bid is criticised over hotel rooms, the joint hosting concept, training sites and team hotels, with government guarantees a major concern.

"The necessary government support has not been secured as neither the government guarantees nor the government declaration have been provided in compliance with Fifa's requirements."
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Why are you carrying on about the Asia gold medal? What the hell is that? Who were the other teams in the comp?
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Nobody outside Commonwealth ever heard of Commonwealth Games. So what?
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Old November 17th, 2010, 12:39 AM   #8340
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Why are you carrying on about the Asia gold medal? What the hell is that? Who were the other teams in the comp?
Seriously.

Nobody cares who got the gold medal for soccer at the 2008 Olympics.
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