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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old November 17th, 2010, 01:29 AM   #8341
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We care ...... all football fans in Asia and around world care but rugby fans sure they dont know even what different between rugby and football like this player what done in world cup lol



it is funny how Australians think their self better than country has 1 million person while their team is suck and all done in world cup 2010 is getting 3 red cards with their pro players.

no compare between who won Asia Gold Medal and who won nothing in football

even Qatar has won the sliver medal of youth world cup 1981 on their country land (sydney) before they claim they are Asian country lol

khalfan Ibrahim Best player in Asia 2006


Khalfan Ibrahim After Qatar team won Asia Gold Medal 2006



Brazil's support to Qatar 2022 World Cup bid

http://www.insideworldfootball.biz/i...atar&Itemid=75

Argentina support Qatar 2022

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/argen...id-357860.html

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Old November 17th, 2010, 01:42 AM   #8342
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Seriously.

Nobody cares who got the gold medal for soccer at the 2008 Olympics.
It certainly wasn't the Olympics-it was with the same parameters though-under 23 with 3 over age players.
The tournament was held in Qatar and obviously the better teams couldn't access their best players because their clubs wouldn't let them go for such a low grade tournament .
Be interesting to see the breakdown of just how many Nationalised players played for Qatar in that tournament.Certainly Aspire was in full swing at that time,raping Africa as hard as they could

I couldn't fina ANY data re crowds for any of these matches.Also note there was only 8 teams in the women's tournament,Qatar wasn't one of them -of course because they don't have a women's team
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Old November 17th, 2010, 01:54 AM   #8343
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It certainly wasn't the Olympics-it was with the same parameters though-under 23 with 3 over age players.
The tournament was held in Qatar and obviously the better teams couldn't access their best players because their clubs wouldn't let them go for such a low grade tournament .
Be interesting to see the breakdown of just how many Nationalised players played for Qatar in that tournament.Certainly Aspire was in full swing at that time,raping Africa as hard as they could

I couldn't fina ANY data re crowds for any of these matches.Also note there was only 8 teams in the women's tournament,Qatar wasn't one of them -of course because they don't have a women's team
hahahah funny that why AFC choose Khalfan best player that year



what about youth world cup silver medal in Australia 1981 ?? all teams was in holidays hahahahah

Qatar has more tournaments and cups than your country which we are not sure to where belong to Asia or to Oceana lol
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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:02 AM   #8344
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What I do know is that we have qualified for World Cups before,we've won matches,we've had enormous travelling armies-95,000 at Germany and 35,000 in South Africa.
We are a legitimate bidder to host a WC along with 7 other bids.There is only 1 bid that doesn't comply with hosting requirements.You are nothing more than monopoly money,some 13 year old African kids and a set of drawings

Infact you've got the trifecta
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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:02 AM   #8345
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The most important thing is Qatar's stadiums are 25th century. Qatar having a good team is beyond the main point, just like South Africa. They suck but their stadiums make up for it. Australia has stadiums that look like something from the iron ages.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:05 AM   #8346
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The most important thing is Qatar's stadiums are 25th century. Qatar having a good team is beyond the main point, just like South Africa. They suck but their stadiums make up for it. Australia has stadiums that look like something from the iron ages.

South Africa had a legal bid,South Africa had a diverse bid,South Africa actually had things to do outside matchtime

There is NO comparison
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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:10 AM   #8347
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What I do know is that we have qualified for World Cups before,we've won matches,we've had enormous travelling armies-95,000 at Germany and 35,000 in South Africa.
We are a legitimate bidder to host a WC along with 7 other bids.There is only 1 bid that doesn't comply with hosting requirements.You are nothing more than monopoly money,some 13 year old African kids and a set of drawings

Infact you've got the trifecta
Not legal
Vote Collusion
Vote buying

you are nothing you never won any cup or football medal qaulifiy to world cup lol even Kuwait , Emarities and very very small countris done this even Saudi done this more than your country many smaller countries done better your country even korea qualified more than 8 times this nothing with cup or medal.

we have youth world cup sliver medal 1981
we have Asia gold medal 2006
we have 2 times Arab Gulf Cup

buy votes ?? hahaha why did we paid Australia vote ?? even your country not on football map and dont have seat hahahah

man you are nothing in Aisa you just paid bribe to oceana member so Fifa suspended oceana vote.

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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:13 AM   #8348
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South Africa had a legal bid,South Africa had a diverse bid,South Africa actually had things to do outside matchtime

There is NO comparison
sorry Australia has no vote and you tried to buy oceana vote and all what happend FIFA banned oceana vote.

if you talk about spain going to vote for Qatar this so normal didnt need to pay them or buy their vote they only one vote of 14 votes going to vote for Qatar such Brazil , Egypt , Argentina and many others

but your country even dont have a seat good luck in another time
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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:21 AM   #8349
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A senior Fifa figure has questioned Qatar's claim that air conditioning can deal with their searing summer heat problem and allow the 2022 World Cup to take place in the Middle Eastern country. Qatar have emerged as strong contenders for the tournament despite having to face issues surrounding the heat, which averages more than 40C in June and July and last summer topped 50C, and the small size of the country and population.

The Qatar bid team have said that air conditioning the stadiums can reduce the temperatures to the low thirties, but Chuck Blazer of the US, a member of the Fifa executive committee which will vote on the 2018 and 2022 hosts on 2 December, does not believe this is enough. Blazer told the Wall Street Journal: "You can air-condition a stadium, but I don't see how you can air-condition an entire country."

The US are bidding against Qatar along with Australia and outsiders South Korea and Japan. The publication by Fifa today of the bid inspectors' evaluation reports is expected to raise further questions about the World Cup being staged in Qatar. As well as the heat, the size of the country is an issue – it is half the size of Wales with a population of fewer than one million, half of whom live in the country's only city of note, Doha.

A special meeting of the Fifa executive committee has been called on Friday in Zurich to discuss the evaluation reports and the outcome of the Fifa ethics committee hearing.

Some Fifa insiders believe there may be a move to bar Qatar from the bid process on technical grounds if the evaluation report raises too many high-risk problems.


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...p-2135968.html
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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:27 AM   #8350
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A senior Fifa figure has questioned Qatar's claim that air conditioning can deal with their searing summer heat problem and allow the 2022 World Cup to take place in the Middle Eastern country. Qatar have emerged as strong contenders for the tournament despite having to face issues surrounding the heat, which averages more than 40C in June and July and last summer topped 50C, and the small size of the country and population.

The Qatar bid team have said that air conditioning the stadiums can reduce the temperatures to the low thirties, but Chuck Blazer of the US, a member of the Fifa executive committee which will vote on the 2018 and 2022 hosts on 2 December, does not believe this is enough. Blazer told the Wall Street Journal: "You can air-condition a stadium, but I don't see how you can air-condition an entire country."

The US are bidding against Qatar along with Australia and outsiders South Korea and Japan. The publication by Fifa today of the bid inspectors' evaluation reports is expected to raise further questions about the World Cup being staged in Qatar. As well as the heat, the size of the country is an issue – it is half the size of Wales with a population of fewer than one million, half of whom live in the country's only city of note, Doha.

A special meeting of the Fifa executive committee has been called on Friday in Zurich to discuss the evaluation reports and the outcome of the Fifa ethics committee hearing.

Some Fifa insiders believe there may be a move to bar Qatar from the bid process on technical grounds if the evaluation report raises too many high-risk problems.


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...p-2135968.html

too late ..... too late


bribery , weather, size whatever they claims is too late and has the opposite effect as happend with England bid when british media attacked Qatar-Spain bids lol

USA member Chuck Blazer says whatever he likes his country newspapers or Australia newspapers or british newspapers we dont care they are play dirty games in too late time every thing went at Qatar side and they now have 14 votes in fact they was only need 13 votes to secure victory.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:38 AM   #8351
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too late ..... too late
You're right, Qatar should have been eliminated a long long time ago. Qatar is the biggest disgrace to international football. Even resorting to stealing players from other nations for more than half your squad and still failing to make a world cup FAIL

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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:44 AM   #8352
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I just realised Qatar finished bottom of their group in the 2007 AFC cup. How do you do that?
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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:47 AM   #8353
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You're right, Qatar should have been eliminated a long long time ago. Qatar is the biggest disgrace to international football. Even resorting to stealing players from other nations for more than half your squad and still failing to make a world cup FAIL

dont worry they will qualify to world cup even before they reach 2 million population and this could happen in brazil 2014 and 2018 before they host it in 2022 as they done many football achievements in past and as they was one step away from it in 1998 and 1990 what we are care about now is Asia Cup which will be hosted in Qatar next January and World cup hosting.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 03:10 AM   #8354
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It certainly wasn't the Olympics-it was with the same parameters though-under 23 with 3 over age players.
The tournament was held in Qatar and obviously the better teams couldn't access their best players because their clubs wouldn't let them go for such a low grade tournament .
Be interesting to see the breakdown of just how many Nationalised players played for Qatar in that tournament.Certainly Aspire was in full swing at that time,raping Africa as hard as they could

I couldn't fina ANY data re crowds for any of these matches.Also note there was only 8 teams in the women's tournament,Qatar wasn't one of them -of course because they don't have a women's team
I'm aware it wasn't at the Olympics, my point is that NOBODY cares who won the gold medal at the Olympics so why would anybody care about the gold in the Asian games?

Australia has proven that they can compete on the world stage by actually qualifying to the World Cup and even making the 2nd round in 2006.

Qatar hasn't qualified but hey at least they have some worthless gold medal from a tournament nobody cares about!
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dont worry they will qualify to world cup even before they reach 2 million population and this could happen in brazil 2014 and 2018 before they host it in 2022 as they done many football achievements in past and as they was one step away from it in 1998 and 1990 what we are care about now is Asia Cup which will be hosted in Qatar next January and World cup hosting.
Just telling you now - you will never be at a World Cup.

Also stop 'mocking our performance' at the 2010 WC. At least we got there unlike a certain little country.
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I'm aware it wasn't at the Olympics, my point is that NOBODY cares who won the gold medal at the Olympics so why would anybody care about the gold in the Asian games?

Australia has proven that they can compete on the world stage by actually qualifying to the World Cup and even making the 2nd round in 2006.

Qatar hasn't qualified but hey at least they have some worthless gold medal from a tournament nobody cares about!
hahahah what else you can says :P no nody care about how many you qualified kuwait is small country qualified to world cup in 80's so what !!! their federation now is suspended you will says like X_ your Rank 21 !! saudi made Rank better than this in past they are now ranked at 69 and they quailified to world cup more than your big country even they are smaller they won Asia cup. all these things is nothing without win cups or medals to recored in history.

we have many achievements than your country some of them on your country land like what happend in youth world cup when we won silver medal in Australia 1981.

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Old November 17th, 2010, 03:41 AM   #8357
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AUSTRALIA's bid for the 2022 World Cup will be given a glowing recommendation when FIFA officially publishes its evaluation report of the bidding countries tonight.

FIFA's inspection time found virtually no technical fault with Australia's bid and praised the nation's stadiums, security and inner city transport systems.

They were also convinced of the lasting legacy bringing the World Cup Down Under would create.

The few negative points raised were the impact on US and European TV rights, a lack of hotel accommodation in some areas and the travel challenges created by the distance between our host cities.

Qatar's rival bid looks set to stumble at the first hurdle over the oppressive summer heat in the Middle East while the USA creates security problems, "legal risks" and a key lack of Government money or commitment.

Korea's bid which promises to unite North and South has a huge appeal to FIFA but, like Japan's bid, is unlikely to succeed because of their recent hosting of the competition in 2002.

Press Association Sport has seen an advanced copy of the FIFA report and here outlines some of the key points as identified by the inspectors.

USA (2022)

Good points: Stadia already built, hotels, transport, security.

Bad points: "Medium legal risk", lack of government guarantees.

QATAR (2022)

Good points: Novel approach to World Cup, legacy, new stadia.

Bad points: June/July heat "potential health risk", 12 stadiums located within a 20-mile radius.

AUSTRALIA (2022)

Good points: Legacy, security, stadia, transport infrastructure.

Bad points: Shortage of contracted hotel rooms, transport challenges, risk of reduction in European and American TV income.

JAPAN (2022)

Good points: Stadia, technology developments, hotels, transport.

Bad points: Security plan not fully ensured, risk of reduction in European and American TV income.

SOUTH KOREA (2022)

Good points: Legacy - may play some games in North Korea, stadia, technology, security.

Bad points: Risk of reduction in European and American TV income.

ENGLAND (bidding for 2018)

Good points: Transport, stadia, IT, security, marketing, legacy.

Bad points: Too few venue-specific training sites or venue-specific team hotels, too few training base camp hotels.

SPAIN/PORTUGAL (2018)

Good points: Stadia, transport, hotels, legacy.

Bad points: Lack of clear security plan, co-hosting "a challenge".

RUSSIA (2018)

Good points: 13 planned new stadia, hotels, legacy.

Bad points: "Huge transport challenge and major building programme needed".

HOLLAND/BELGIUM (2018)

Good points: Stadia, legacy.

Bad points: Too few hotel rooms, co-hosting "a challenge", lack of government guarantees.


http://au.fourfourtwo.com/News/18898...ia-wc-bid.aspx
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Old November 17th, 2010, 06:03 AM   #8358
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Elena Isinbayeva will be one of the representatives of Russia bid in Zurich.

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Old November 17th, 2010, 06:45 AM   #8359
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The health risk in Qatar is pertinent

Just how many people will die at that World Cup from dehydration??
Here are the temperatures for June and July this year-58 days over 40-degrees C(104 F) C-an average of 46.3 C degrees
(115 F)
The weather in Qatar
http://www.wunderground.com/history/...lyHistory.html
Maximum,minimum,humidity
June 1 2010 45 28 61
June 2 2010 43 28 48
June 3 2010 37 27 89
June 4 2010 39 29 83
June 5 2010 44 27 90
June 6 2010 44 27 87
June 7 2010 44 28 70
June 8 2010 41 30 54
June 9 2010 44 29 60
June 10 2010 45 27 54
June 11 2010 41 26 74
June 12 2010 43 26 75
June 13 2010 46 27 75
June 14 2010 44 28 52
June 15 2010 43 28 71
June 16 2010 45 29 78
June 17 2010 46 28 81
June 18 2010 48 30 76
June 19 2010 48 30 79
June 20 2010 48 30 78
June 21 2010 46 29 76
June 22 2010 44 30 63
June 23 2010 43 28 58
June 24 2010 40 29 46
June 25 2010 41 28 49
June 26 2010 42 28 55
June 27 2010 40 27 60
June 28 2010 40 23 75
June 29 2010 41 26 75
June 30 2010 41 26 77
July 1 2010 42 27 67
July 2 2010 44 30 46
July 3 2010 42 29 44
July 4 2010 39 27 88
July 5 2010 44 27 100
July 6 2010 47 31 44
July 7 2010 44 30 82
July 8 2010 42 30 88
July 9 2010 43 32 74
July 10 2010 41 31 77
July 11 2010 44 31 83
July 12 2010 45 32 71
July 13 2010 48 33 64
July 14 2010 49 36 44
July 15 2010 47 33 51
July 16 2010 47 30 58
July 17 2010 46 30 59
July 18 2010 45 29 65
July 19 2010 45 30 67
July 20 2010 42 32 45
July 21 2010 45 31 65
July 22 2010 45 30 75
July 23 2010 46 31 66
July 24 2010 45 28 75
July 25 2010 46 28 76
July 26 2010 45 29 59
July 27 2010 43 30 61
July 28 2010 43 30 61
July 29 2010 42 30 81
July 30 2010 43 31 65
July 31 2010 43 31 82

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar

Climate data for Qatar
Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Year
Month Average high °F (°C) 72
Jan 72(22)
Feb 73 (23)
Mar 81 (27)
Apr 90 (32)
May 100(38)
Jun 106 (41)
Jul 115 (46)

Aug 111 (44)
Sep 106 (41)
Oct 95(35)
Nov 84(29)
Dec 75(24)
Year 92.3(33.5)

Source: weather.com
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you are nothing you never won any cup or football medal qaulifiy to world cup lol even Kuwait , Emarities and very very small countris done this even Saudi done this more than your country many smaller countries done better your country even korea qualified more than 8 times this nothing with cup or medal.

we have youth world cup sliver medal 1981
we have Asia gold medal 2006
we have 2 times Arab Gulf Cup

buy votes ?? hahaha why did we paid Australia vote ?? even your country not on football map and dont have seat hahahah

man you are nothing in Aisa you just paid bribe to oceana member so Fifa suspended oceana vote.

If meaningless tournaments are so important to you Waqif, here is the list of equivalent Australian honours which no one (ever Australians) cares about.
Confederations Cup 1997 Runner Up (or as Waqif would put it "Silver Medal" )
Confederations Cup 2001 Third Place (ooh, a Bronze)
OFC Nations Cup x4 Champions
AFC Mens Team of the year 2006

and if sub Mens National Team results matter so much to you like your Under20's 1981 performance.

U17's World Cup 1999 Australia Runner Up.

ONLY THE WORLD CUP MATTERS
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