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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old November 17th, 2010, 07:49 AM   #8361
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Its not that special Waqif,we've been rather busy winning things in pretty well everything else
FIFA World Cup™ appearances
3 (1974, 2006, 2010)
FIFA Womens World Cup™ appearances
4(1995,1999,2003,2007q/f,2011)
Mens Olympic Football
7(1956 r2,1988q/f,1992 4th,1996r1,2000r1,2004q/f,2008grp)
Womens Olympic Football
2(2000,2004-q/f)

Continental titles
Winner
OFC Nations Cup (1980, 1995, 2000, 2004 Play-off)
Trans-Tasman Cup(1986,1988,1991,1995,2001)
AFC Womens Asian Cup 2010
OFC Womens Championship(1995,1998,2003)
Runners-Up
OFC Nations Cup (1998, 2002)
AFC Womens Asian Cup 2006
OFC Womens Championship(1983,1986,1991)
AFC U 20 Men's Championship (2010)

Third
OFC Womens Championship(1989)
Fourth
AFC Womens Asian Cup 2008
AFC U-17 Mens Championship(2010)
Best Results
Runners-Up
FIFA Confederations Cup (1997), FIFA U-17 World Cup Final (1999)
Third
FIFA Confederations Cup (2001)
Fourth
FIFA U-20 World Cup Final (1991, 1993), Olympic Football Tournament Final (1992)
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Old November 17th, 2010, 07:51 AM   #8362
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FIFA has questioned the idea of the World Cup being co-hosted in its technical reports on the four bids for the 2018 tournament, the BBC reported on Tuesday.

The Spain/Portugal and Belgium/Netherlands bids were criticised in FIFA's reports for being joint efforts, the BBC said after it obtained a copy of the executive summary.

Russia's bid has been criticised over transport and technology infrastructure while England's bid came under fire over training venues and team hotels, it added.

Soccer's world governing body is due to make the reports on the four bids public on Wednesday.

According to the BBC, the FIFA reports suggested that co-hosting could be a problem for the Iberian bid.

"It should be noted that a co-hosting concept could pose challenges regarding the joint operational delivery of the FIFA World Cup in terms of ensuring consistent standards.

"Therefore in order to provide a more complete basis for evaluation of the co-hosting concept, further key operational details would be required," the BBC quoted the report as saying.

Government guarantees were also a concern for the joint bid from Belgium and Netherlands.

"The necessary government support has not been secured as neither the government guarantees nor the government declaration has been provided in compliance with FIFA's requirements," the BBC quoted the report as saying.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...#ixzz15W3qJxwD
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Old November 17th, 2010, 07:57 AM   #8363
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This is a report that comes from Qatar in 2008. This is based in June/July when the world cup will be hosted. I'm sure no top clubs will want their players to end up dead, playing for their country in the world cup. It'd open up FIFA to a whole new world of law suits. As I said Qatar's bid should be eliminated ASAP.

There have been several reports of the Qatar-China match but what most seemed to have missed was just how hot it was. Even the spectators were soaked through with sweat, so it must have been awful for the players, even though they were gulping down fluids at every opportunity. Obviously the Chinese players' special water cooled vests had less effect than they had anticipated, as they seemed the more lackluster of the two teams. There is little chance of playing good football in this weather

http://qatarvisitor.blogspot.com/200...#ixzz15W4r0kcR

Poor Qatar. You pay Brazil £4million and England £400,000 and all they prove is that it's too hot to play football in your country. Even at night. Your best ref can't spot a penalty and a sending off when they happen a yard in front of his nose. You don't recognise Israel's right to exist. etc etc etc

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opin...cle221753.html

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Old November 17th, 2010, 11:09 AM   #8364
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This is a report that comes from Qatar in 2008. This is based in June/July when the world cup will be hosted. I'm sure no top clubs will want their players to end up dead, playing for their country in the world cup. It'd open up FIFA to a whole new world of law suits. As I said Qatar's bid should be eliminated ASAP.

There have been several reports of the Qatar-China match but what most seemed to have missed was just how hot it was. Even the spectators were soaked through with sweat, so it must have been awful for the players, even though they were gulping down fluids at every opportunity. Obviously the Chinese players' special water cooled vests had less effect than they had anticipated, as they seemed the more lackluster of the two teams. There is little chance of playing good football in this weather

http://qatarvisitor.blogspot.com/200...#ixzz15W4r0kcR

Poor Qatar. You pay Brazil £4million and England £400,000 and all they prove is that it's too hot to play football in your country. Even at night. Your best ref can't spot a penalty and a sending off when they happen a yard in front of his nose. You don't recognise Israel's right to exist. etc etc etc

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opin...cle221753.html

Please stop posting all posts or text in bold. They will be removed it this continues. Thanks
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Old November 17th, 2010, 11:35 AM   #8365
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Old November 17th, 2010, 12:07 PM   #8366
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The qatar bid has been a joke from day one.It would be nice for australia to get it as football needs a boost and higher profile there as theres too many bogan bazzas chomping pies and watching afl.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 01:12 PM   #8367
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The qatar bid has been a joke from day one.It would be nice for australia to get it as football needs a boost and higher profile there as theres too many bogan bazzas chomping pies and watching afl.
I like chomping on a pie and watching AFL
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Old November 17th, 2010, 01:43 PM   #8368
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The qatar bid has been a joke from day one.It would be nice for australia to get it as football needs a boost and higher profile there as theres too many bogan bazzas chomping pies and watching afl.
Here here
Anyway,its ok for them to watch OzRules,its when they get extreme about football that I kinda go off a bit
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Old November 17th, 2010, 01:47 PM   #8369
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Old November 17th, 2010, 01:49 PM   #8370
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THE World Cup bid of one Qatar has been labelled "a potential health risk" to players and fans in official inspection reports.

The evaluations of the nine bidders raise questions about each, but most are about Qatar, one of Australia's main rivals to host the Cup, where the temperature during World Cup time can nudge 50C.

A team of FIFA experts said Qatar's bid relied on a huge and speculative construction program of hotels, stadiums and transport links.

The reports come two weeks before FIFA's executive committee will vote on awarding the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.

Australia is praised for its experience of major events and government support, and the potential to establish soccer as a leading sport here.

The major criticisms centre on a shortfall in contracted hotel rooms, and the reliance on domestic air travel between host cities.

But the criticism of Qatar is damning, leading to a fresh push from rival bidders to have it ruled non-compliant before the December 3 vote - amid fears it could win the vote.

Even the European press, previously focused on the 2018 contest, has turned on the Qatari bid after the technical reports. Chief sports correspondent of London's The Times, Matt Dickinson, wrote: "Staging a World Cup in Qatar makes as much sense as taking darts to the moon."

On Twitter, the London Telegraph's chief soccer writer, Henry Winter said: "Best bid for 2022 is Australia. Obvious. Legacy, fun, facilities, atmosphere, it has to be Oz. Qatar too steamy & soulless. Fact."

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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:44 PM   #8371
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AUSTRALIA (2022) - Low Risk

USA (2022) - Medium Risk (Additional transport required, legacy, government guarantees)

QATAR (2022) - High Risk (Health and welfare of players, staff and spectators under threat, infrastructure, security, transport, logistics, accommodation)

Japan (2022) - Medium Risk (Security, government guarantees)

South Korea (2022) - Medium Risk (transportation, infrastructure)

ENGLAND (2018) - Low Risk

SPAIN/PORTUGAL (2018) - Medium Risk (Security, communications, accommodation, transport)

RUSSIA (2018) - Medium Risk (transport, infrastructure, communications, logistics, accommodation)

HOLLAND/BELGIUM - Medium Risk (2018) (government guarantees, accommodation)

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Old November 17th, 2010, 03:05 PM   #8372
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AUSTRALIA (2022) - Low Risk

USA (2022) - Medium Risk (Additional transport required, legacy, government guarantees)

QATAR (2022) - High Risk (Health and welfare of players, staff and spectators under threat, infrastructure, security, transport, logistics, accommodation)

Japan (2022) - Medium Risk (Security, government guarantees)

South Korea (2022) - Medium Risk (transportation, infrastructure)

ENGLAND (2018) - Low Risk

SPAIN/PORTUGAL (2018) - Medium Risk (Security, communications, accommodation, transport)

RUSSIA (2018) - Medium Risk (transport, infrastructure, communications, logistics, accommodation)

HOLLAND/BELGIUM - Medium Risk (2018) (government guarantees, accommodation)
Do you read the report? Are you live in own reality?

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If Russia is awarded the hosting rights, FIFA's legal risk appears to be LOW. The requirements for contractual documents have been met, and the necessary goverment support has been secured and is confirmed by the Goverment Legal Statement. Futhermore, the Russian Goverment has been given the chance to gain experience in supporting the hosting and staging of a major sports events and to show its willingness to make material concessions and accommodate the concerns of event organisers.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 03:14 PM   #8373
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If England/Russia/Spain & Portugal is (are) awarded the hosting rights, FIFA's legal risk appears to be LOW.

If Holland & Belgium are awarded the hosting rights, FIFA's legal risk appears to be MEDIUM.

So, please get rid of your superiority complex.
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i think russia is high risk but with traditional russian brown envelopes becomes low risk
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Old November 17th, 2010, 03:39 PM   #8375
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i think russia is high risk but with traditional russian brown envelopes becomes low risk
You can create own classification. Fortunately, no one (except other British trolls like MysteryMike and RobH) will take it seriously.
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Get out from this thread, troll.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 03:49 PM   #8377
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while the USA creates security problems,

USA (2022)

Good points: Stadia already built, hotels, transport, security.
Can you even read your own posting? Do you have an iota of comprehension in your abcess-riddled brain???

How can a "good point" also be a problem"?


Mods, how come you allow this troll to post twisted, facts but then delete my posts pointing out his half-truths and imagined rearranging of facts?? Obviously, this is a VERY BIASED board.

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Old November 17th, 2010, 04:34 PM   #8378
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Here's the full description of the USA Bid assessment from the FIFA Bid Evaluation Report:

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4.9 USA:
Executive Summary


The USA bid’s hosting concept and legacy
programme highlights the importance of the FIFA World Cup™ as a key step in the further development of the USA as a football
nation. The bid offers fl exibility in terms of city infrastructure, stadiums and facilities, all of which provide a broad platform for staging the event. The bid is supported by the national and local football authorities, the local city governments (by virtue of duly executed Host City Agreements) and the stadium authorities (by virtue of duly executed Stadium
Agreements).

The bid proposes 18 Host Cities and 18 stadiums, thus exceeding FIFA’s requirement. All 18 stadiums are built with no further renovation indicated. Nevertheless, since most stadiums are American football venues, the
Bidder plans to remove seats in the corners and adapt the existing structure to meet the FIFA World Cup™ pitch size requirements.

In terms of football development, the Bidder
suggests a range of domestic and international
activities that could be funded by the success
of the FIFA World Cup™ in the USA. United
States (US) football is respected worldwide
and its teams have recorded various successes
at club and international level. The USA has
considerable experience in hosting large-scale
national and international sporting events in
the last 20 years. It held the 1996 Summer
Olympic Games, the 2002 Winter Olympic
Games, the 1994 FIFA World Cup™ and the
FIFA Women’s World Cups™ in 1999 and 2003.

The Bidder has contracted the required number
of venue-specific team hotels (VSTH) but has
not contracted the required number of venuespecifi
c training sites (VSTS). It has contracted
the required number of team base camp (TBC)
hotels but has not contracted the required
number of TBC training sites. FIFA’s team facility
requirements could potentially be met, however
a complete inventory of contracted team
facilities is required.

In terms of accommodation, 170,000 rooms have already been contracted, thus exceeding FIFA’s minimum requirement of 60,000. The accommodation plan is based on a wide ranging and plentiful supply of good-quality rooms at fair, contractually agreed conditions.

As for the FIFA headquarters, it is proposed
to have separate FIFA headquarters for the
first and second stages of the competition.
Additional details are required in order to assess
the proposals. The rate for a standard room in the proposed first-stage hotel is high and should be reviewed.

In general, the candidate Host Cities have a
well-developed transport infrastructure and
experience in managing traffic and crowd fl ows
for events and sports contests. However, the
country’s vastness and geographic location
imply a dependence on air travel in view of
the lack of alternative means of long-distance
transport within the country. Nevertheless, the
capacity of the airports and the competitiveness
of the aviation market in the USA would assure
reliable air transfer. Temporary transport would
have to be arranged to and from the majority
of the proposed stadiums during the event.
The country has a strong information and
communications technology (ICT) infrastructure,
and it appears as though FIFA’s requirements
would be met.

International standards for major event safety
and security and for health and medical services
are likely to be met.


The proposals submitted by the Bidder for the competition-related events would generally fulfill FIFA’s requirements. Marketing, media and communication matters have also been addressed. The information provided suggests that the USA is the number one market for sports sponsorship in the world and that it also has a growing market for football sponsorship. However, as the required guarantees, undertakings and confi rmations are not given as part of Government Guarantee No. 6 (Protection and Exploitation of Commercial Rights) and mere reference is made to existing general intellectual property laws in the USA, FIFA’s rights protection programme cannot be ensured. In terms of TV, should the FIFA World Cup™ be hosted in the USA, the TV ratings and media rights income in the Americas are likely to be higher.

The Bidder has submitted an expenditure
budget of USD 661.2 million (current) for a FIFA
Confederations Cup and FIFA World Cup™ in
2021 and 2022. The budget has been submitted
in the format required with supporting
information. A projection of approximately
4,957,000 sellable tickets has been made.
If the USA is awarded the hosting rights,
FIFA's legal risk appears to be medium.
Whilst
the necessary government support has not
been documented as neither the Government
Guarantees, the Government Declaration nor
the Government Legal Statement have been
provided in compliance with FIFA's requirements
for government documents, the US Government
has considerable experience in supporting the
hosting and staging of major sports events and
has proven its willingness to make material
concessions, accommodate the concerns of event
organisers, and has expressed its intention to
enact the necessary legislation by 1 June 2013.
Furthermore, the requirements for contractual
documents have been met.
Forget all the dishonest, fanciful, poisonous summaries of MystressMike. She makes up her OWN reports as she goes along. Make your own judgments not based on the self-serving, BLATANTLY BIASED interpretation of an obviously psychologically damaged source like MysteryMike.

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Old November 17th, 2010, 06:50 PM   #8379
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Slightly confused as to why the report clearly highlights the UK rather than England on the map, and the close of host cities includes Glasgow, Edinburgh and Cardiff..?

Have I missed something, or have FIFA made a mess of this?
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Old November 17th, 2010, 06:54 PM   #8380
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Wtf! Spain&Portugal proposal has the highest mark between the WC 2018 bids...oh no my God, this is the end of the world!!....lol....maybe on December 2nd more than a mouth will be shut...

Good luck to everyone...looks like that someone's gonna need it...
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