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View Poll Results: Which bid should host the FIFA World Cup 2018 / 2022?
Australia - 2018 255 12.32%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2018 247 11.94%
England - 2018 538 26.00%
Indonesia - 2018 68 3.29%
Japan - 2018 35 1.69%
Mexico - 2018 105 5.07%
Qatar - 2018 78 3.77%
Russia - 2018 279 13.48%
South Korea - 2018 16 0.77%
Spain / Portugal - 2018 267 12.90%
USA - 2018 116 5.61%
Australia - 2022 378 18.27%
Belgium / Netherlands - 2022 111 5.36%
England - 2022 114 5.51%
Indonesia - 2022 122 5.90%
Japan - 2022 37 1.79%
Mexico - 2022 149 7.20%
Qatar - 2022 153 7.39%
Russia - 2022 148 7.15%
South Korea - 2022 23 1.11%
Spain / Portugal - 2022 184 8.89%
USA - 2022 249 12.03%
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:03 PM   #8401
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If you say so. Comedy gold, you're right Rev.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:04 PM   #8402
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So, by your standards, one riot of probably less than 1000 people, in the centre of London, is somehow going to affect our national bid, for a competition in 8 years.

I just want to clarify that's what you're saying, because good lord that is dumb.
All matter in details. Of course, this was not a serious damage, but also this is not in favor of English bid. If less than 1000 students were able to did it, that what can did in London few thousands of fans (not only from England)?
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:06 PM   #8403
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Or Moscow for that matter?
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:09 PM   #8404
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I for one have had enough of this constant slapping each other in the face. I don't care who started it, just end it.

AlekseyVT - Don't post on the English bid thread.
And the English group of members don't post on the Russian thread.

Agreed?

This is getting more childish and embarrassing for both sides by the post.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:14 PM   #8405
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Or Moscow for that matter?
It's difficult for me to imagine that 1000 students in Moscow are able to broke into the headquarters of "United Russia" party and crush it.

Of course, I'm not saying that Moscow is ideal in this regard. But the last time such hooliganism occurred in 2002, after losing match of World Cup. However, the Russian police was not ready for this (fans watched match at the big screen in the centre of Moscow) and shop windows were broken, not the headquarters of leading party.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:15 PM   #8406
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Tried ignoring the trolls, and it didn't work, and nor were they banned. So **** it, I'll show them to be the idiots they are instead.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:17 PM   #8407
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It's difficult for me to imagine that 1000 students in Moscow are able to broke into the headquarters of "United Russia" party and crush it.

Of course, I'm not saying that Moscow is ideal in this regard. But the last time such hooliganism occurred in 2002, after losing match of World Cup. However, the Russian police was not ready for this (fans watched match at the big screen in the centre of Moscow) and shop windows were broken, not the headquarters of leading party.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:17 PM   #8408
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This thread is being kind of trashed by blind nationalists ATM, be it AlekseyVT, MysteryMike, waqif, etc.

Sophisticated conversation, please
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:19 PM   #8409
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I think the main outcome of the last few weeks:
1) FIFA recognized that in technical terms Russian and English bids on the one level;
2) Safety in England was called into question---BY AlekseyVT

Thus, the superiority of the British in these two important criteria was a myth. Now I see only one advantage in favor of England - it's a motherland of football.
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This thread is being kind of trashed by blind nationalists ATM, be it AlekseyVT, MysteryMike, waqif, etc.

Sophisticated conversation, please
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This thread is being kind of trashed by blind nationalists ATM, be it AlekseyVT, MysteryMike, waqif, etc.

Sophisticated conversation, please
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:26 PM   #8412
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:27 PM   #8413
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Wtf! Spain&Portugal proposal has the highest mark between the WC 2018 bids...oh no my God, this is the end of the world!!....lol....maybe on December 2nd more than a mouth will be shut...
I'd say that our bid is also the most exciting. Can't wait to have the WC over here!!
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:28 PM   #8415
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What's wrong?
I'm not saying you're a blind nationalist, you actually seem to have a good level of intelligence, compared to others on here.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:30 PM   #8416
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AUSTRALIA (2022) - Low Risk

USA (2022) - Medium Risk (Additional transport required, legacy, government guarantees)

QATAR (2022) - High Risk (Health and welfare of players, staff and spectators under threat, infrastructure, security, transport, logistics, accommodation)

Japan (2022) - Medium Risk (Security, government guarantees)

South Korea (2022) - Medium Risk (transportation, infrastructure)

ENGLAND (2018) - Low Risk

SPAIN/PORTUGAL (2018) - Medium Risk (Security, communications, accommodation, transport)

RUSSIA (2018) - Medium Risk (transport, infrastructure, communications, logistics, accommodation)

HOLLAND/BELGIUM - Medium Risk (2018) (government guarantees, accommodation)
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Do you read the report? Are you live in own reality?

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If Russia is awarded the hosting rights, FIFA's legal risk appears to be LOW. The requirements for contractual documents have been met, and the necessary goverment support has been secured and is confirmed by the Goverment Legal Statement. Futhermore, the Russian Goverment has been given the chance to gain experience in supporting the hosting and staging of a major sports events and to show its willingness to make material concessions and accommodate the concerns of event organisers.
My analysis is 100% correct, I think the technical report merely backs up everything I have said before. Legal risk is not the overall level of risk. This is merely the outline of the report so there are a lot more black marks for Qatar of course everybody knows it, for Russia, for the US, for Spain/Portugal and Holland/Belgium. I have also noted down for you the key areas of concern, read the report.
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What's wrong?
I'm not saying you're a blind nationalist, you actually seem to have a good level of intelligence, compared to others on here.
Nothing personal, its a "cold war - type" situation.

Besides, Qatar scored low on the "Fifa legal risk" part.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:37 PM   #8418
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My analysis is 100% correct, I think the technical report merely backs up everything I have said before. Legal risk is not the overall level of risk. This is merely the outline of the report so there are a lot more black marks for Qatar of course everybody knows it, for Russia, for the US, for Spain/Portugal and Holland/Belgium. I have also noted down for you the key areas of concern, read the report.
Why you don't wrote anything for English & Australian bids?
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:38 PM   #8419
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"In terms of accommodation, over 84,000 rooms
have already been contracted, thus exceeding
FIFA’s minimum requirement of 60,000."

Something big Australia was not able to provide:

"In terms of accommodation, 43,000 rooms
have already been contracted, thus falling short
of FIFA’s minimum requirement of 60,000."
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Mystery Mike your analysis has been proven to be EXTREMELY FALSE, due to several incorrect points,

for example there is NO PROBLEM in terms of accommodation provided from Qatar.

Australia on the other hand has PROBLEMS WITH TRANSPORT, "the country’s vastness and geographic location imply a dependence on air travel, potentially causing domestic and international transfer challenges in view of the lack of alternative means of long-distance transport within the country."
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